WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

[leejonesjnr]

Easiest way to make this go away is to offer a 90-10 split in the winners favour

[samwbr]

Cash out for Fury in his current condition.

[dirk2686]

Cash out for Fury in his current condition.

He sounds desperate.

[BitPlayer]

Cash out for Fury in his current condition.

Or just bluff and bluster.

Far more money if he can win and get a rematch with a better split.

[mickey1975]

Cash out for Fury in his current condition.

He sounds desperate.

Yes, must be, millionaire already in his own right, grown up in a millionaire household and will be getting eight figures to box for 36 minutes, even though he's way out of shape! Very desperate man! Did you see him at your local benefits office or something this morning?

[dirk2686]

Cash out for Fury in his current condition.

He sounds desperate.

Yes, must be, millionaire already in his own right, grown up in a millionaire household and will be getting eight figures to box for 36 minutes, even though he's way out of shape! Very desperate man! Did you see him at your local benefits office or something this morning?

He does sound desperate. He's a fat lad who lives in Anglesey after a payday. Let's not pretend he's Bill Gates. Joshua probably earned more in his last two fights than Fury has done in his career.

[mickey1975]

He sounds desperate.

Yes, must be, millionaire already in his own right, grown up in a millionaire household and will be getting eight figures to box for 36 minutes, even though he's way out of shape! Very desperate man! Did you see him at your local benefits office or something this morning?

He does sound desperate. He's a fat lad who lives in Anglesey after a payday. Let's not pretend he's Bill Gates. Joshua probably earned more in his last two fights than Fury has done in his career.

Yep, lives happily there. I can't imagine how he's desperate for anything. Obviously I'm banging my head against a brick wall here... To you he's just a fat lad from Anglesey, to the rest of the world he's the heavyweight champion. That's like me trying to say AJ is just an ex con whos beat a few bums and Furys rejects! They are both top quality heavyweight boxers who are going to make a lot of money together. How on earth can you look down on him? Seriously, what are your achievements in life?

[mickey1975]

He sounds desperate.

Yes, must be, millionaire already in his own right, grown up in a millionaire household and will be getting eight figures to box for 36 minutes, even though he's way out of shape! Very desperate man! Did you see him at your local benefits office or something this morning?

He does sound desperate. He's a fat lad who lives in Anglesey after a payday. Let's not pretend he's Bill Gates. Joshua probably earned more in his last two fights than Fury has done in his career.

Fair play to Josh, he's come a long way from his mums council flat. Maybe that has made him so hungry. Tyson grew up in a mansion in Winslow.

[wesshaw1985]

[Knucklez]

Yes, must be, millionaire already in his own right, grown up in a millionaire household and will be getting eight figures to box for 36 minutes, even though he's way out of shape! Very desperate man! Did you see him at your local benefits office or something this morning?

He does sound desperate. He's a fat lad who lives in Anglesey after a payday. Let's not pretend he's Bill Gates. Joshua probably earned more in his last two fights than Fury has done in his career.

Yep, lives happily there. I can't imagine how he's desperate for anything. Obviously I'm banging my head against a brick wall here... To you he's just a fat lad from Anglesey, to the rest of the world he's the heavyweight champion. That's like me trying to say AJ is just an ex con whos beat a few bums and Furys rejects! They are both top quality heavyweight boxers who are going to make a lot of money together. How on earth can you look down on him? Seriously, what are your achievements in life?

So if Fury never returns, he's the heavyweight champion for all eternity and no other heavyweight EVER can be recognised as a legit champ? Come on, even you must admit there's a point where this theoretical title hands over to active fighters by default.

[KiwiRider]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

[mickey1975]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

[KiwiRider]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

I don't know the answer to any of those except the Ashes, Mickey.
I though Sky was the shark because it is on satellite in so many countries as well, am I wrong?

[Boxerbeetle]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

The Champions League isn’t anywhere near the golden goose for tv companies, the Premier League is by some distance. The consensus has definitely been that BT overpaid massively for the CL rights.

But yeah, there is no ‘minnow’ between Sky and BT, they’re pretty much equals.

[samwbr]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

Have you seen the viewing figures for the CL on BT? People have just stopped caring. The average viewing figures for the Ashes this winter was around 80k btw. It's cost BT a fortune and they aren't getting value. Sky didn't bother competing as they know the market for it.

[dirk2686]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

BT showed the Ashes which have just finished as they have the UK rights to show Australian domestic (i.e. played in Australia) cricket.

Sky are showing the World Cup and 2019 Ashes series both of which take place in England.

You can't really compare an away series to a home one given the time of day when the match actually takes place.

[Rob3_142]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

I don't think it is worth counting the Ashes down under as a win. I highly doubt the viewing figures would justify what they paid for it. I say let's speak again when the Ashes in England come round.

[Rob3_142]

Tyson is more than capable of out boxing aj

on here if you lay that down as your opinion then your a proper div it seems

But before the klitschko fight it was the same old chat, then Tyson took everything klitschko had to offer away from him by fighting in a way where klitschko couldlnt even "get set" in the fight. Then it was all wlad lost because he didn't throw no punches, not giving Tyson no credit for fighting in such a way where wlad couldlnt time him for any punches, so couldlnt get a foothold in the fight

Tyson never had a hope in hell vs wlad in many people's eyes, it's the same now with big Joshua the boxing genius, who understands distance and timing so well and uses lots of feints and sets things up to walk people onto shots and who goes from head to body so well, and who moves his head so well and has great defensive movement

Aj can ko Tyson, if he catches him clean, but he'll need to work for it, it's not as simple as "just going for it" it's a professional boxing match not a pub fight or a straightener...

Generally speaking I am in the Joshua camp, but this is a cracking post.

I hate that people take to either extreme, being an AJ fan boy and not recognising the achievement of Fury in 2015, and the Fury idolaters who do not believe he can do no wrong. Personally the jury is out on Fury, and of course would have liked to see him back the win up with the rematch, or fighting another top 10 fighter.

As Joshua showed in his last fight, an awkward fighter (Takam) with decent movement is hard to load up on. You cannot just walk them down. Truth is, Joshua is good at catching his man eventually, so question is, what happens with Fury when he does, and can he keep Joshua out of reach for 12 rounds.

[Boxerbeetle]

Ha! Yes I liked that too Wes
The full quote is even more amusing;
BT Sport and Sky Sports could share it, or who ever comes up with the right money gets it. Who says Anthony Joshua could be with Matchroom in seven months' time? His contract expires soon."
Yes Fwank, AJ would love to come over to the caravan/office and sign up as soon as he can, in fact, you better put the kettle on now. And when it comes to BT Sports and Sky Sports, who is the minnow and who is the shark?

Who won The Champions League? THE golden goose of British sport. And F A cup, premier league matches, oh, and the ashes.

I don't think it is worth counting the Ashes down under as a win. I highly doubt the viewing figures would justify what they paid for it. I say let's speak again when the Ashes in England come round.

Apparently the Australian Cricket Board couldn’t believe how much BT paid for the rights to the Ashes, they snapped their hand off when the bid came in.

[the_doctor]

Tyson is more than capable of out boxing aj

on here if you lay that down as your opinion then your a proper div it seems

But before the klitschko fight it was the same old chat, then Tyson took everything klitschko had to offer away from him by fighting in a way where klitschko couldlnt even "get set" in the fight. Then it was all wlad lost because he didn't throw no punches, not giving Tyson no credit for fighting in such a way where wlad couldlnt time him for any punches, so couldlnt get a foothold in the fight

Tyson never had a hope in hell vs wlad in many people's eyes, it's the same now with big Joshua the boxing genius, who understands distance and timing so well and uses lots of feints and sets things up to walk people onto shots and who goes from head to body so well, and who moves his head so well and has great defensive movement

Aj can ko Tyson, if he catches him clean, but he'll need to work for it, it's not as simple as "just going for it" it's a professional boxing match not a pub fight or a straightener...

Generally speaking I am in the Joshua camp, but this is a cracking post.

I hate that people take to either extreme, being an AJ fan boy and not recognising the achievement of Fury in 2015, and the Fury idolaters who do not believe he can do no wrong. Personally the jury is out on Fury, and of course would have liked to see him back the win up with the rematch, or fighting another top 10 fighter.

As Joshua showed in his last fight, an awkward fighter (Takam) with decent movement is hard to load up on. You cannot just walk them down. Truth is, Joshua is good at catching his man eventually, so question is, what happens with Fury when he does, and can he keep Joshua out of reach for 12 rounds.

I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that the Fury that beat Klitschko would be a nightmare for Joshua. I also don't think its unreasonable to suggest that we will never see that Fury again and that the Fury that fought Pajkic, Cunningham, Abell etc. would be a heavy underdog against Joshua.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Yes, must be, millionaire already in his own right, grown up in a millionaire household and will be getting eight figures to box for 36 minutes, even though he's way out of shape! Very desperate man! Did you see him at your local benefits office or something this morning?

He does sound desperate. He's a fat lad who lives in Anglesey after a payday. Let's not pretend he's Bill Gates. Joshua probably earned more in his last two fights than Fury has done in his career.

Yep, lives happily there. I can't imagine how he's desperate for anything. Obviously I'm banging my head against a brick wall here... To you he's just a fat lad from Anglesey, to the rest of the world he's the heavyweight champion. That's like me trying to say AJ is just an ex con whos beat a few bums and Furys rejects! They are both top quality heavyweight boxers who are going to make a lot of money together. How on earth can you look down on him? Seriously, what are your achievements in life?

To most people, he's the ex heavyweight champion. Nobody outside of his die hard fans regard him as the current heavyweight champion.

[bigjack]

Joshua would walk in throwing big punches with little to fear about what's coming back,a few flicking jabs on the back foot won't keep him away.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I think Fury would have a fair chance. I think Joshua has improved since Fury fought Wlad, but of the two Fury clearly has better movement, and he has the better defence.

The question is whether or Fury can avoid getting caught and hurt for long enough.

Joshua takes more chances than Wlad did in his late career, he does get clipped as a result, but that also means he generates more openings for himself, and he is a good finisher when he has his man hurt.

I could see Fury taking Joshua into the late rounds and frustrating him, and then turning it on when Joshua tires, which I think he would if he is forced to move against an elusive target, but I can also see Joshua catching Tyson relatively early, and finishing him off in the first half of the fight.

I think Fury should give himself a better chance by fighting some tune ups, I suspect this twitter talk is just to hype the fight, or it could be that Tyson doesn't have a lot of appetite for the sport any more, and is only interested in fighting Joshua. I suspect it's the latter.

[lillywhite14]

BT Sport runs at a big loss. It’s all about broadband and enticing subscribers to that and their Sport arm is a splash in the ocean.. It’s possible they might chuck big dough at such a fight although I can’t see it being on anything other than Sky.

Fury needs to have a couple of warm ups first. If he comes back I’d personally like to see him give himself the best chance of beating AJ as opposed to just coming back for a cashout obviously.

[jamesmcdonnell]

BT Sport runs at a big loss. It’s all about broadband and enticing subscribers to that and their Sport arm is a splash in the ocean.. It’s possible they might chuck big dough at such a fight although I can’t see it being on anything other than Sky.

Fury needs to have a couple of warm ups first. If he comes back I’d personally like to see him give himself the best chance of beating AJ as opposed to just coming back for a cashout obviously.

Yes, they came up with BT Vision to protect the lucrative broadband business when sky launched their own broadband, along with Talk Talk and others, they were losing subscribers at a rapid pace as they couldn't offer them TV services.