Deontay Wilder's haters logic (INSECURE LONELY BOYS)

[IronFrost]

After fight probably actualy happens - he calls Luis Ortiz 53 years old heart patient. Wilder's haters are bigger joke than his RESUME Actualy i've never saw those loser kind of haters. So insecure and hopeless.

[SenorPipino]

DW's the man.

The pride of the moribund heavyweight division.

Give the haters a pass. Many are prone to hating what they fear.

[Tony1244]

Joe Frazier said to Hagler, "You have 3 strikes against you, 1) you're good, 2) Syou're outhpaw, and 3) you're black.

Wilder is good, black, and has a big mouth. I don't care about the black, one way or the other, but I like good and cocky.

He needs the Parkers, Ortizs, and Joshuas on his resume. If he beats those guys, what will the haters say? And if he doesn't, he still had a great run.

To the haters I say, we're talking about Wilder, not you.

[keithmoonhangover]

Can I be a Wilder fan, but still think he's going to get knocked out??

[boxing_rocks]

The OP is an insecure lonely boy. Go suck Wilder's dick instead of making pathetic threads. If you are still not satisfied, do a blow job for Adonis.

[Knucklez]

Wilder, Parker, AJ and Fury must all fight each other, otherwise they're just pr1cks.

[SenorPipino]

"Agism" is becoming a popular defense against being wrong.

Wilder sucks and is afraid of Ortiz, has been the popular mantra of Bronze Bomber detractors.

So Wilder signs to fight Ortiz not once but twice, so those same detractors suddenly need to find a rationale to explain how they were so wrong.

"Ortiz is now old. Real old" they all chant in unison.

"Wilder waited until he got old. Otherwise he could never beat him" they all assure us in their vast wisdom.

It's the same sorry "prevent defense" we hear from Golovkin groupies. An alibi to prevent them from being foolishly wrong.

"He's so much superior to Can-yellow and will destroy him," they opine for several years.

"But if he doesn't, it's only because Can-yellow waited until he got old. Real old," they once again chant in unison.

Funny how Golovkin and Ortiz are never old when they're running roughshod in their respective divisions.

But suddenly when they're faced with their first legit threat, they age 20 years and can no longer be expected to shine.

Haters find comfort in the weakest of alibis.

[Tony1244]

The OP is an insecure lonely boy. Go suck Wilder's dick instead of making pathetic threads. If you are still not satisfied, do a blow job for Adonis.

Oh My

[African Monkey]

I find their trolling of Wilder on ESB or Boxing 24 quite amusing

[asdfjkl]

You found one guy who posted such a thing two years ago and now you all of a sudden act like everybody is like that? You remind me about, what was his name again? That idiot where Wilder wasn't scared for Charlie or something.

[ajwesty13]

Wilders been a professional for 10 years, has not lost in 39 fights, carrying a great knock out percentage with those sort of credentials we should be talking about wilder in the same breath as any pound for pound fighter.. But hes is far from that level.. It certainly doesn't help wilders case when you compare that to Joshua who after 20 fights and just over 4 years since his debut hes in another fight trying to unify belts...
I'm afraid the hate people seem to have if there is any is what wilder has brought upon himself...

[KiwiRider]

When Wilder won his belt we had American commentary for that.
They were so passionate about how great it is for America to finally have a HW champion after so long etc etc..
It was a tough 12 round fight where Wilder showed good skills, stamina and durability, albeit his opponent was not the best. I fully admit I got swept up in it.
Yes, it is great for America to have a HW champion, they love that division and this could be just what American boxing needs. Wilder talked about unification, fighting the best, and being the baddest man on the planet.
Then his first defence came around against a lowly opponent. I thought, OK, so an easy one after your tough title win, that's fine.
From then on it got worse. And I got more dissolusioned with him after each fight. What made it worse was the rapid rise of AJ. Here is a young Brit on the fast track taking on better guys than Wilder.
Wilder is still talking BIG, and then fighting small. While AJ goes out and fights Big. Heck, even Parker goes life and death against whoever but Wilder plays it safe.
If Wilder fights Ortiz, then AJ, I find him redeemed. Win or lose.

[Taansend]

You found one guy who posted such a thing two years ago and now you all of a sudden act like everybody is like that? You remind me about, what was his name again? That idiot where Wilder wasn't scared for Charlie or something.

Didn't you call Wilder a coward or something for 'ducking' Whyte

[asdfjkl]

You found one guy who posted such a thing two years ago and now you all of a sudden act like everybody is like that? You remind me about, what was his name again? That idiot where Wilder wasn't scared for Charlie or something.

Didn't you call Wilder a coward or something for 'ducking' Whyte

As long as he doesn't fight anyone and still got a big mouth, he's a pussy. Also note that he continually proves me right, him doing that, not me. And note, that was even before the Povetkin fight. He even ducked a 21 year old Hughie Fury for a fight in Wilder his own hometown!

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

On the one hand "hater" is one of those buzzwords that allow a person to conflate fair and unfair criticism and stifle debate. Wilder and his career are certainly not above reproach - he is years into his career now and only once has he actually faced an opponent who looked like he might have a chance to beat him beforehand. And that isn't just because he is "just so good that no-one can challenge him" or anything like that (he isn't).

On the other hand, he has absorbed way more criticism than has been fair at times. Even when he was a young pro developing his name and game in off-TV fights, people were making threads on here talking him down again and again for some reason. Every moment of his career has been met with a certain amount of "he is gonna duck [x]" and "it's his fault that [y]" even to the point of constructing speciously over-elaborate conspiracy theories to find ways to blame him for events he surely had no control over.

To me he is a moderately talented beltholder - I honestly thought he might slip up against Stiverne the first time and was happy to be proven wrong. Likewise I do think Ortiz is going to score the KO (I might change my mind before fight night but the point still stands) if the fight does happen but will be happy to be proven wrong again.

[IronFrost]

You found one guy who posted such a thing two years ago and now you all of a sudden act like everybody is like that? You remind me about, what was his name again? That idiot where Wilder wasn't scared for Charlie or something.

I'ts not only ONE GUY. Go on boxingforum24...

There bilion thready of fuckers who started hate on someone good like Luis Ortiz. Just because they try to diss Deontay Wilder.

They are shaking in the fear that he might will beat top heavyweight and they will need find another excuses.

Ortiz gets hate now too.


PATHETIC

[lazboy]

"Agism" is becoming a popular defense against being wrong.

Wilder sucks and is afraid of Ortiz, has been the popular mantra of Bronze Bomber detractors.

So Wilder signs to fight Ortiz not once but twice, so those same detractors suddenly need to find a rationale to explain how they were so wrong.

"Ortiz is now old. Real old" they all chant in unison.

"Wilder waited until he got old. Otherwise he could never beat him" they all assure us in their vast wisdom.

It's the same sorry "prevent defense" we hear from Golovkin groupies. An alibi to prevent them from being foolishly wrong.

"He's so much superior to Can-yellow and will destroy him," they opine for several years.

"But if he doesn't, it's only because Can-yellow waited until he got old. Real old," they once again chant in unison.

Funny how Golovkin and Ortiz are never old when they're running roughshod in their respective divisions.

But suddenly when they're faced with their first legit threat, they age 20 years and can no longer be expected to shine.

Haters find comfort in the weakest of alibis.

This is all very silly. Not to factor age. A very real and useful stat.

[IronFrost]

You found one guy who posted such a thing two years ago and now you all of a sudden act like everybody is like that? You remind me about, what was his name again? That idiot where Wilder wasn't scared for Charlie or something.

Didn't you call Wilder a coward or something for 'ducking' Whyte

As long as he doesn't fight anyone and still got a big mouth, he's a pussy. Also note that he continually proves me right, him doing that, not me. And note, that was even before the Povetkin fight. He even ducked a 21 year old Hughie Fury for a fight in Wilder his own hometown!

Get your facts asdfjk :) Wilder never ducked Hughie. Actualy they offered him to fight. But Peter Fury said they needed more time for training camp. Also Hughie was never ranked by the WBC and this fight could never happen.

They never said that Wilder ducked Hughie and Ortiz and his team never said that it was Wiler's fault.

Jay Jimenez said sorry to their fans and took blame on his boxer!

Those are facts. Your imaginary fantasy can not accept them tho. I will accept that Wilder never fought some very legit contender. But Luis Ortiz is top 5 guy at worst and this fight should happen!


You said that Ortiz will win easy :-) So let's wait :) Hope you wont say that ORTIZ was too old or bla bla

[asdfjkl]

Didn't you call Wilder a coward or something for 'ducking' Whyte

As long as he doesn't fight anyone and still got a big mouth, he's a pussy. Also note that he continually proves me right, him doing that, not me. And note, that was even before the Povetkin fight. He even ducked a 21 year old Hughie Fury for a fight in Wilder his own hometown!

Get your facts asdfjk :) Wilder never ducked Hughie. Actualy they offered him to fight. But Peter Fury said they needed more time for training camp. Also Hughie was never ranked by the WBC and this fight could never happen.

They never said that Wilder ducked Hughie and Ortiz and his team never said that it was Wiler's fault.

Jay Jimenez said sorry to their fans and took blame on his boxer!

Those are facts. Your imaginary fantasy can not accept them tho. I will accept that Wilder never fought some very legit contender. But Luis Ortiz is top 5 guy at worst and this fight should happen!


You said that Ortiz will win easy :-) So let's wait :) Hope you wont say that ORTIZ was too old or bla bla

The fight was already scheduled here on boxrec, Hughie asked for 8 weeks notice, despite Tyson was scheduled with Klitschko and his dad couldn't go to America at the time. Wilder didn't expect Hughie to accept and was scared to offer him 8 weeks notice, otherwise the fight would have happened 100% according to the tweets back then. Then Wilder fought Duhaupas instead, 7,5 weeks later. Those are the facts.

[tigermoth87]

I quite like Wilder, he's fun to watch and is good for the division.

There's no excusing his shocking list of opponents though. The first win over Stiverne was good, before that and after he's faced a bum carousel. Arreola, Szpilka, Washington... come on.

Duhaupas was a decent opponent too tbf, not elite level. But he was credible.

[MrGuy]

When Wilder won his belt we had American commentary for that.
They were so passionate about how great it is for America to finally have a HW champion after so long etc etc..
It was a tough 12 round fight where Wilder showed good skills, stamina and durability, albeit his opponent was not the best. I fully admit I got swept up in it.
Yes, it is great for America to have a HW champion, they love that division and this could be just what American boxing needs. Wilder talked about unification, fighting the best, and being the baddest man on the planet.
Then his first defence came around against a lowly opponent. I thought, OK, so an easy one after your tough title win, that's fine.
From then on it got worse. And I got more dissolusioned with him after each fight. What made it worse was the rapid rise of AJ. Here is a young Brit on the fast track taking on better guys than Wilder.
Wilder is still talking BIG, and then fighting small. While AJ goes out and fights Big. Heck, even Parker goes life and death against whoever but Wilder plays it safe.
If Wilder fights Ortiz, then AJ, I find him redeemed. Win or lose.

He fought a washed up Wlad. Has his competition really been much better?

[boxing_rocks]

Even Whyte is better than anybody Wilder fought.

By the way, Wilder said that he would destroy prime Mike Tyson !!! LOL !!! The guy is completely delusional.

[danconnollyeire]

The OP is strange and disturbed. I mean, I think Wilder is gonna crush Ortiz, but put that to one side, IronFrost needs help

[gilgamesh]

The OP is strange and disturbed. I mean, I think Wilder is gonna crush Ortiz, but put that to one side, IronFrost needs help

If you guys would stop revitalizing his threads there'd be no more IronFrost stupidity to talk about.