I think he's similar in power to Joshua. Neither of them come close to Klitschko, though. Dude dropped Povetkin with a flick of the wrist.
To be fair, Klitschko isn't in boxing today. He's retired.
I was using Klitschko as an example of insane power. I don't think Joshua and Wilder's power are at that level where they could be considered, p4p, the biggest puncher in boxing.
Took Wilder a lot to stop Duhaupus, who Povetkin absolutely demolished, and Joshua didn't stop Takam clean like Povetkin did.
Acording to great fighter Gasiev Wilder hits harder than Klitschko. Haye says same.
I think Wladimir had most powerfull jab. Joshua causes most damage of those 3. He has not so explosive shot but he has heavy hard shots similiar to Golovkin.
He's also a windmiller... He goes apeshitt... Joshua has more concentrated power and gets more on each shot.
True,his technique is awful but he can ko with 1 punch.
Wilder's windmilling is exagerated. He will "windmill" after his opponent is hurt to finish them, but not his normal style.
As far as the most force in one punch, Wilder is the biggest puncher, imo.
the reality is that even among the best punchers all or almost all do more wearing down of opponents than one shot blasting out, at least when against anyone decent
even true for a guy like wilder. ktfoing szpilka theres a 11 round no kd standing stoppage vs duhaupas, an 8 round wear down of arreola, the 12 round decision beat down in stiverne 1, dropping and hurting molina constantly yet needing 9 or 10 rounds to finally keep him down, etc
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jamamb wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 04:47
the reality is that even among the best punchers all or almost all do more wearing down of opponents than one shot blasting out, at least when against anyone decent
Bang on mate, theres not many Julian Jackson types about
I wouldn't like to hazard a guess if we were talking pound for pound, but "Biggest puncher in pro boxing today" can only mean "absolute" as opposed to "relative". For me that would be Wilder. AJ might be able to concentrate power better due to better technique, but the hardest one-shot hitter has to be Wilder.
More so than Wlad I would say, although Klitschko can certainly punch as AJ could testify. Would Wilder have got up from that?
wlad wouldve seemed like a better hitter if hed let his hands go more. guys often went extra rounds with him because he would hardly throw and not go for a kill until the guy was obviously finished.
also im pretty sure after brewster wlad started pulling his right hand which i think reduced its power
I think he's similar in power to Joshua. Neither of them come close to Klitschko, though. Dude dropped Povetkin with a flick of the wrist.
To be fair, Klitschko isn't in boxing today. He's retired.
I was using Klitschko as an example of insane power. I don't think Joshua and Wilder's power are at that level where they could be considered, p4p, the biggest puncher in boxing.
Took Wilder a lot to stop Duhaupus, who Povetkin absolutely demolished, and Joshua didn't stop Takam clean like Povetkin did.
Then who at heavyweight TODAY would be if a person who is 32-0, 31KOs isn't?
of lower ranked guys ive read from ppl that fought and sparred him that joey abells a massive puncher. think galen brown mightve called him the hardest. whenever he can actually land he does big damage, as zimnoch and nofire know, also dropped pulev
too bad for him that hes so limited in every other area
jamamb wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 05:03wlad wouldve seemed like a better hitter if hed let his hands go more. guys often went extra rounds with him because he would hardly throw and not go for a kill until the guy was obviously finished.
also im pretty sure after brewster wlad started pulling his right hand which i think reduced its power
"guys often went extra rounds with him because he would hardly throw and not go for a kill until the guy was obviously finished"
That was the big mistake he made vs. Joshua.
Watch Wlad's early fights before he started pacing himself. Almost every one of his first 50 or so fights were KO's. Tremendously exciting boxer...and then you see the resident idiots on here saying he was "boring".
Really like Lemieux and Beterbiev getting mention. GGG doesn t get recognition enough has he gets fight by guys who knows they going to get hurt.
About that Ngannou guy in UFC
BillW wrote: ↑16 Jan 2018, 20:29
By biggest puncher I take it you mean one punch knockout power.
So if we look at the KO records (as opposed to tko) of the three heavyweight belt holders we find.
Anthony Joshua 4 KOs
Joseph Parker 5 KOs
Deontay Wiider 18 KOs.
jamamb wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 05:03wlad wouldve seemed like a better hitter if hed let his hands go more. guys often went extra rounds with him because he would hardly throw and not go for a kill until the guy was obviously finished.
also im pretty sure after brewster wlad started pulling his right hand which i think reduced its power
"guys often went extra rounds with him because he would hardly throw and not go for a kill until the guy was obviously finished"
That was the big mistake he made vs. Joshua.
Watch Wlad's early fights before he started pacing himself. Almost every one of his first 50 or so fights were KO's. Tremendously exciting boxer...and then you see the resident idiots on here saying he was "boring".
he became boring order to stay
relevant. no way of denying it. on
the joshua bout, i just rewatched
and was stunned that wlad could
not finish him. there was plenty of
time and AJ did not get his senses
back.
This is really subjective, unless you get them all to measure their force on a machine. IMO, Klitshko, Wilder then Joshua in that order. Technique is key here.
GGG does hit really hard, but Lemieux has tremendous power. I’m surprised nobody has called out Canelo. Lemieux, GGG then Canelo.
Beterbiev is an animal and so is Bivol. Beteriev, Bivol, Stephenson then Kovalev.
Kudryashov, P4P, probably hits harder than them all.
