Fight most likely not to go as planned.
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SenorPipino
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Re: Fight most likely not to go as planned.
It's hard not to see form hold in these four fights.
Joshua vs Parker? I give the New Zealander no chance to win this bout. He's just ordinary. Average boxing skills. Little power at the higher level. Average speed.
He looks to have a decent enough chin, but that just means he'll take a lengthy beating. Odds have dropped on this fight for some reason. After climbing to 25-1, Joshua is now only a 12-1 choice. But it's still a landslide. Parker doesn't hear the 9th round.
Povetkin vs. Price? Shouldn't be allowed. Price should be retired. Amir Khan's chin is positively Chuvalo-esque compared to Price's beard.
This one won't go long. Maybe 3 rounds at most.
Wilder vs Ortiz? A blowout. The best heavyweight in the world vs a lumbering Cuban with stamina issues. Too much speed, power and athleticism on the part of Wilder.
I know people here will say that the hard hitting Ortiz can clock Wilder (despite being very very old) but it would be stunning to see that happening. Ortiz is going to walk into that cement right hand of Wilder's and it'll be lights out.
Whyte vs Browne? Sounds like a colorful bout, but seriously, neither of these two are elite fighters, so I suppose the best chance of an upset occurs here.
Whyte should be a solid favorite. He's been in with better fighters and has a sizeable age advantage. He's fought Helenius, Chisora and Joshua and is best known for putting Joshua on queer street momentarily.
Browne is an unbeaten KO puncher but except for wins over Chagaev (who is frequently inactive) and Toney (washed up even back in 2013) he hasn't really been in with many live bodies.
It's possible Whyte could lose. His focus seems to be on Wilder, and even though the Browne fight is considered a grudge match, you wonder if Whyte is all that juiced (no pun) for it.
I'll go with Whyte by late KO, so form will hold. But in a battle of two fringe contenders, no one should be shocked if Browne ends up with his hand raised.
Joshua vs Parker? I give the New Zealander no chance to win this bout. He's just ordinary. Average boxing skills. Little power at the higher level. Average speed.
He looks to have a decent enough chin, but that just means he'll take a lengthy beating. Odds have dropped on this fight for some reason. After climbing to 25-1, Joshua is now only a 12-1 choice. But it's still a landslide. Parker doesn't hear the 9th round.
Povetkin vs. Price? Shouldn't be allowed. Price should be retired. Amir Khan's chin is positively Chuvalo-esque compared to Price's beard.
This one won't go long. Maybe 3 rounds at most.
Wilder vs Ortiz? A blowout. The best heavyweight in the world vs a lumbering Cuban with stamina issues. Too much speed, power and athleticism on the part of Wilder.
I know people here will say that the hard hitting Ortiz can clock Wilder (despite being very very old) but it would be stunning to see that happening. Ortiz is going to walk into that cement right hand of Wilder's and it'll be lights out.
Whyte vs Browne? Sounds like a colorful bout, but seriously, neither of these two are elite fighters, so I suppose the best chance of an upset occurs here.
Whyte should be a solid favorite. He's been in with better fighters and has a sizeable age advantage. He's fought Helenius, Chisora and Joshua and is best known for putting Joshua on queer street momentarily.
Browne is an unbeaten KO puncher but except for wins over Chagaev (who is frequently inactive) and Toney (washed up even back in 2013) he hasn't really been in with many live bodies.
It's possible Whyte could lose. His focus seems to be on Wilder, and even though the Browne fight is considered a grudge match, you wonder if Whyte is all that juiced (no pun) for it.
I'll go with Whyte by late KO, so form will hold. But in a battle of two fringe contenders, no one should be shocked if Browne ends up with his hand raised.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Fight most likely not to go as planned.
I suspect that all of them will go as planned.
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Definitely Wilder vs Ortiz
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I agree with that but Whyte v Browne should be very competitive so while I favour Whyte, that's not a gimme either.
I expect Joshua to win but even at the closer odds of 12-1 that still seems way too high to me. 4-1 max is how I see it.
Povetkin should demolish Price but the man can punch so Povetkin can't afford to take him too lightly. I'd still rate that the least likely to be an upset though.
Povetkin v Price 95/5
Joshua v Parker 75/25
Whyte v Browne 60/40
Wilder v Ortiz 55/45
I expect Joshua to win but even at the closer odds of 12-1 that still seems way too high to me. 4-1 max is how I see it.
Povetkin should demolish Price but the man can punch so Povetkin can't afford to take him too lightly. I'd still rate that the least likely to be an upset though.
Povetkin v Price 95/5
Joshua v Parker 75/25
Whyte v Browne 60/40
Wilder v Ortiz 55/45
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Fight most likely not to go as planned.
I’ve always believed that the reason for David Price’s perceived glass jaw was due to his mental approach to the sport.
He expends so much nervous energy inside the ring that it results in him gassing out prematurely, his concentration levels dropping, abandoning basic fundamental defensive techniques and subsequently becoming highly vulnerable to his opponents’ shots.
Assuming Alexander Povetkin agrees to face David Price, then just about everyone will overwhelmingly predict an easy night’s work for the Russian… and so they should. It’s the obvious call to make!
That being said, if the Brit can enter the ring with low expectations of himself, without feeling the weight of world on his shoulders, then he may prove capable of giving Povetkin a relatively stern test. He has the size, the skills and athleticism to do this, but his fragile mind-set is the main concern here.
Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb by boldly predicting that the Povetkin-Price bout will be relatively competitive for at least six rounds – it won’t be a complete mismatch.
I’m not saying that the Liverpudlian will definitely defy the betting odds and score the upset, but I do think he’s capable of exceeding expectations by the proverbial country mile and make the Russian look very ordinary indeed! He might even win the fight if Povetkin underestimates him.
He expends so much nervous energy inside the ring that it results in him gassing out prematurely, his concentration levels dropping, abandoning basic fundamental defensive techniques and subsequently becoming highly vulnerable to his opponents’ shots.
Assuming Alexander Povetkin agrees to face David Price, then just about everyone will overwhelmingly predict an easy night’s work for the Russian… and so they should. It’s the obvious call to make!
That being said, if the Brit can enter the ring with low expectations of himself, without feeling the weight of world on his shoulders, then he may prove capable of giving Povetkin a relatively stern test. He has the size, the skills and athleticism to do this, but his fragile mind-set is the main concern here.
Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb by boldly predicting that the Povetkin-Price bout will be relatively competitive for at least six rounds – it won’t be a complete mismatch.
I’m not saying that the Liverpudlian will definitely defy the betting odds and score the upset, but I do think he’s capable of exceeding expectations by the proverbial country mile and make the Russian look very ordinary indeed! He might even win the fight if Povetkin underestimates him.
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Re: Fight most likely not to go as planned.
maybe hes nervous because he knows he cant take a shot well
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Ilya Muromets
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Re: Fight most likely not to go as planned.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 13:11 I’ve always believed that the reason for David Price’s perceived glass jaw was due to his mental approach to the sport.
He expends so much nervous energy inside the ring that it results in him gassing out prematurely, his concentration levels dropping, abandoning basic fundamental defensive techniques and subsequently becoming highly vulnerable to his opponents’ shots.
Assuming Alexander Povetkin agrees to face David Price, then just about everyone will overwhelmingly predict an easy night’s work for the Russian… and so they should. It’s the obvious call to make!
That being said, if the Brit can enter the ring with low expectations of himself, without feeling the weight of world on his shoulders, then he may prove capable of giving Povetkin a relatively stern test. He has the size, the skills and athleticism to do this, but his fragile mind-set is the main concern here.
Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb by boldly predicting that the Povetkin-Price bout will be relatively competitive for at least six rounds – it won’t be a complete mismatch.
I’m not saying that the Liverpudlian will definitely defy the betting odds and score the upset, but I do think he’s capable of exceeding expectations by the proverbial country mile and make the Russian look very ordinary indeed! He might even win the fight if Povetkin underestimates him.
Good comment. In spite of all his obvious shortcomings you can't take a guy that big who can hit that hard too lightly. I was just commenting about Price on the Povetkin vs. Price thread.
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Have you seen any of David Price's recent fights?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 13:11 I’ve always believed that the reason for David Price’s perceived glass jaw was due to his mental approach to the sport.
He expends so much nervous energy inside the ring that it results in him gassing out prematurely, his concentration levels dropping, abandoning basic fundamental defensive techniques and subsequently becoming highly vulnerable to his opponents’ shots.
Assuming Alexander Povetkin agrees to face David Price, then just about everyone will overwhelmingly predict an easy night’s work for the Russian… and so they should. It’s the obvious call to make!
That being said, if the Brit can enter the ring with low expectations of himself, without feeling the weight of world on his shoulders, then he may prove capable of giving Povetkin a relatively stern test. He has the size, the skills and athleticism to do this, but his fragile mind-set is the main concern here.
Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb by boldly predicting that the Povetkin-Price bout will be relatively competitive for at least six rounds – it won’t be a complete mismatch.
I’m not saying that the Liverpudlian will definitely defy the betting odds and score the upset, but I do think he’s capable of exceeding expectations by the proverbial country mile and make the Russian look very ordinary indeed! He might even win the fight if Povetkin underestimates him.
He can be facing a guy with a 2 wins. 5 losses record, and he looks scared to death, as if the next punch from this guy with this garbage record is gonna knock him into the 5th row.
His mind is shot, at least as far as Boxing goes. He's the most gunshy fighter I've ever seen at this point.
He'll be scared to death when the bell rings for Povetkin, and he'll likely crumble the first time he's touched.
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I've always believed David Price's problems are psychological. There is nothing more debilitating to your performance than expending a lot of nervous energy before it even starts. It totally saps strength and stamina and makes you vulnerable. I'm not saying Price has a great chin because the cycle needed something to trigger it (Tony Thompson's big left), but now his shattering losses have compounded the problem, and he knows what can so easily happen to him, which makes him more nervous, poor bastard.
Since he doesn't seem to want to retire, he really needs to take a few steps back and fight a succession of opponents who can be of a good standard, but critically must be totally lacking the power to hurt Price, so he might have a chance to break the cycle and rebuild confidence . People like Sam Sexton, maybe Hughie Fury, definitely not Aleksandr Povetkin.
Since he doesn't seem to want to retire, he really needs to take a few steps back and fight a succession of opponents who can be of a good standard, but critically must be totally lacking the power to hurt Price, so he might have a chance to break the cycle and rebuild confidence . People like Sam Sexton, maybe Hughie Fury, definitely not Aleksandr Povetkin.