golden oldie wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 22:27
You are worse than pathetic.
You are now claiming Tucker fought legitimate fighters / contenders up until the sex beast outpointed him, but between the rapist garbage and Lewis he only fought " tomato cans " .
Out of interest do you write letters to freaks on sex offenders registers, or are you perhaps on one yourself? I only ask because you appear to want to big up Tyson beating lowlifes, junkies, drunks, weirdo's, cranks, and other assorted scumbags, but seem desperate to decry everyone Lewis beat. Or is it perhaps that inherent Murican insecurity coming to the fore?
Go to New York, they say there are more nut doctors there than garbage collectors. You might be able to get help.
Tucker fought tomato cans his entire career. He went years without fighting anyone noteworthy. This applies even before Tyson. He fought Tyson then took over two years off. Then promptly went back to the tomato can tour. So a guy 8 years into his career takes over two years off, returns to fight more cans for the next 3, somehow is in his prime 13 years into his career? Yeah he was in his prime.
golden oldie wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 22:27
You are worse than pathetic.
You are now claiming Tucker fought legitimate fighters / contenders up until the sex beast outpointed him, but between the rapist garbage and Lewis he only fought " tomato cans " .
Out of interest do you write letters to freaks on sex offenders registers, or are you perhaps on one yourself? I only ask because you appear to want to big up Tyson beating lowlifes, junkies, drunks, weirdo's, cranks, and other assorted scumbags, but seem desperate to decry everyone Lewis beat. Or is it perhaps that inherent Murican insecurity coming to the fore?
Go to New York, they say there are more nut doctors there than garbage collectors. You might be able to get help.
Tucker fought tomato cans his entire career. He went years without fighting anyone noteworthy. This applies even before Tyson. He fought Tyson then took over two years off. Then promptly went back to the tomato can tour. So a guy 8 years into his career takes over two years off, returns to fight more cans for the next 3, somehow is in his prime 13 years into his career? Yeah he was in his prime.
Obviously a better class of tomato can than the rapist scum then, one of whom beat it the fuk up, before knocking it the fuk out.
Next load of garbage please.
Your hyping of anything Lewis is laughable. Tucker was noted for fighting cans his entire career. The crop Tyson beat look like ATGs compared to Tuckers competition. You want it to look like he beat the best version of the guy to hype Lewis. Stop embarassing yourself.
Tucker might have been slightly past it, he was losing to guys like Seldon and Akinwande by 1995 which might suggest he was past it at least by that point. Tucker was still a top 10 heavyweight so a good enough win I should think.
Obviously a better class of tomato can than the rapist scum then, one of whom beat it the fuk up, before knocking it the fuk out.
Next load of garbage please.
Your hyping of anything Lewis is laughable. Tucker was noted for fighting cans his entire career. The crop Tyson beat look like ATGs compared to Tuckers competition. You want it to look like he beat the best version of the guy to hype Lewis. Stop embarassing yourself.
Question.
Did one of Tuckers so called tomato cans beat the fukk out of, and then knock the fukk out one of filthy Murica's ALL time fighting / sporting heroes? You know the kind of rapist scum, and child molesting filth that YOU obviously look up too.
Yes or No you moronic creep?
Get it in your thick skull. I don't want to hear what you or any of your scabby countrymen think AFTER the event. Did you imbeciles think what turned out to be fukkin pervert kunt would get battered to FUK by one of Tuckers so called " tomato cans " ?
The only tomato can you frigging fool was that weird old pervert " Old Tomato " who had a penchant for taking young BOYS out of reform schools and such llike sh,it and removing them to the Catskill mountains, but like most Muricans, you are too big mouthed, and too pea brained to see it. That is why the rapist scum became one, old tomato was shoving into him from the age of 13.
Tucker fought Douglas in the 7th year of his career. Thats a full 6 years before he fought Lewis. You were referring to all those fights after his return. Douglas was before. Who did Tucker fight after missing 2 years in all those fights? McCall thats it. The rest were tomato cans. After the event? Most boxing fans thought Tucker was retired long before Lewis. Nice try. He done by then.
golden oldie wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 22:27
You are worse than pathetic.
You are now claiming Tucker fought legitimate fighters / contenders up until the sex beast outpointed him, but between the rapist garbage and Lewis he only fought " tomato cans " .
Out of interest do you write letters to freaks on sex offenders registers, or are you perhaps on one yourself? I only ask because you appear to want to big up Tyson beating lowlifes, junkies, drunks, weirdo's, cranks, and other assorted scumbags, but seem desperate to decry everyone Lewis beat. Or is it perhaps that inherent Murican insecurity coming to the fore?
Go to New York, they say there are more nut doctors there than garbage collectors. You might be able to get help.
Surely this crosses some sort of line or is this guy free to be abusive to everyone who has a different opinion to him?
MrGuy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2018, 02:47
Tucker fought Douglas in the 7th year of his career. Thats a full 6 years before he fought Lewis. You were referring to all those fights after his return. Douglas was before. Who did Tucker fight after missing 2 years in all those fights? McCall thats it. The rest were tomato cans. After the event? Most boxing fans thought Tucker was retired long before Lewis. Nice try. He done by then.
Your EXACT words were.
Tucker was noted for fighting cans his entire career.
So which is it, his ENTIRE career, or only the parts of it that suit your agenda? You see it really is quite simple, your little hero had more than a couple of years off, then the band wagon started to roll again ( as evidenced by the money generated ) when he dispensed with 4 guys ( the term tomato cans does in fact spring to mind ) in a total of 8 rounds, then the NON fancied Holyfield. Ooops.
But of course all you Tyson fans / Lewis haters, KNEW hre was done.
Yeah, fukkin yeah. Just the one question. If you are all so bleeding smart, why the fuk did you PAY?
Tucker did fight cans his entire career. Before and after Tyson. He rarely.moved up to fight anyone. This was stated early on.
golden oldie wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 22:27
You are worse than pathetic.
You are now claiming Tucker fought legitimate fighters / contenders up until the sex beast outpointed him, but between the rapist garbage and Lewis he only fought " tomato cans " .
Out of interest do you write letters to freaks on sex offenders registers, or are you perhaps on one yourself? I only ask because you appear to want to big up Tyson beating lowlifes, junkies, drunks, weirdo's, cranks, and other assorted scumbags, but seem desperate to decry everyone Lewis beat. Or is it perhaps that inherent Murican insecurity coming to the fore?
Go to New York, they say there are more nut doctors there than garbage collectors. You might be able to get help.
Surely this crosses some sort of line or is this guy free to be abusive to everyone who has a different opinion to him?
So who farted and made you chief asshole? In case you ever actually decide to study threads, as opposed to acting like some 3rd rate headmaster try looking at the results of the poll on this one. 41 - 12 saying yes indeed Lewis was in Holmes class. So the Lewis haters deserve abuse, because they can NOT subjectively analyse his career and give credit where it is due. Rather they latch on to the fact he was beaten twice ( both avenged ) and make up nonsensical claims of his allegedly " ducking " every two bob Tom, Dick, and Harry.
The results of the poll says it's OK for you to abuse people who disagree with you? You're right, I do need to study the thread more closely, I definitely missed that part.
MrGuy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2018, 23:55
Tucker did fight cans his entire career. Before and after Tyson. He rarely.moved up to fight anyone. This was stated early on.
Tucker fought NO worse than the junkies, drunks, lowlifes, cranks, weirdo's cowards and nut jobs your sex beast hero made his reputation feeding upon.
Then again I suspect you are truly daft enough to believe nutjobs like Berbick, Green, and Bruno only went nuts " after " they left boxing, or junkie scum like Thomas, Tubbs, Tillis et al only became junkies " after " they gave up boxing, or lost to Tyson.
Tucker never quit fighting club type fighters his entire career. Thats all he fought in between his bigger fights. The gap between most of the guys he fought after he made it, and after Tyson made it, is big. His big win streak came at the expense of fighting guys who drove a forklift for a living.
Tyson's opponents by and large still seem better than Ali's 60s competition. Bruno was big and powerful and probably would have beaten all Ali's 60s opponents aside from Liston. A past it Williams, Folley, Mildenberger, Terrell, etc are not particularly notable foes.
Tucker fought NO worse than the junkies, drunks, lowlifes, cranks, weirdo's cowards and nut jobs your sex beast hero made his reputation feeding upon.
Then again I suspect you are truly daft enough to believe nutjobs like Berbick, Green, and Bruno only went nuts " after " they left boxing, or junkie scum like Thomas, Tubbs, Tillis et al only became junkies " after " they gave up boxing, or lost to Tyson.
Tucker never quit fighting club type fighters his entire career. Thats all he fought in between his bigger fights. The gap between most of the guys he fought after he made it, and after Tyson made it, is big. His big win streak came at the expense of fighting guys who drove a forklift for a living.
As stated Tuckers level of competition throughout his career was no worse than Tyson's drunks junkies, cranks, and weirdo's. If you are desperate enough to claim beating a 38 year old who hadn't been in the ring for 20 months and some sh.it scared Light Heavy makes it so much different, dream on. Meanwhile those that live in the real world...................................................
Out of interest do you actually think guys like McNeeley, Seldon, Etienne, and McBride would even be useful enough to get work as fork lift drivers?
Are Berbick, Green, Bruno, Seldon etc... any worse than Galento, Musto, Roper or several other of Joe Louis' title challengers?
As stated Tuckers level of competition throughout his career was no worse than Tyson's drunks junkies, cranks, and weirdo's. If you are desperate enough to claim beating a 38 year old who hadn't been in the ring for 20 months and some sh.it scared Light Heavy makes it so much different, dream on. Meanwhile those that live in the real world...................................................
Out of interest do you actually think guys like McNeeley, Seldon, Etienne, and McBride would even be useful enough to get work as fork lift drivers?
Are Berbick, Green, Bruno, Seldon etc... any worse than Galento, Musto, Roper or several other of Joe Louis' title challengers?
Totally irrelevant as the point trying to be made by yet another incredibly fukking boring Tyson fanboy is his rapist hero only fought ATG's whereas Tony Tucker only fought tomato cans apart from Lewis Tyson and Douglas.
However!! Yes, the 4 you mention above are hypothetically as bad if not worse than anyone Joe Louis fought including Galento.
54 or 55 fights and nobody knows any of them except Douglas, Tyson, Lewis, and Norris. Much worse than Tysons competition.
I'm not convinced guys like Patterson and Folley have the durability to beat Bruno. Bruno was a lot bigger and more powerful than what they were used to dealing with. What happens when Bruno lands a good shot to their chin? The late 80s 90s seem like a much stronger era than the 60s. Bruno had the misfortune to come along in the same era as Tyson/Lewis in earlier eras he would have more success I imagine.
Totally irrelevant as the point trying to be made by yet another incredibly fukking boring Tyson fanboy is his rapist hero only fought ATG's whereas Tony Tucker only fought tomato cans apart from Lewis Tyson and Douglas.
However!! Yes, the 4 you mention above are hypothetically as bad if not worse than anyone Joe Louis fought including Galento.
54 or 55 fights and nobody knows any of them except Douglas, Tyson, Lewis, and Norris. Much worse than Tysons competition.
Nobody knows or cares about you, but it doesn't stop you putting your big mouthed, pea brain into overdrive, does it?
I didn't say anyone did. You give opinions here. Not agree with someone to avoid a tirade. You presented your facts. I proved them wrong.
Nobody knows or cares about you, but it doesn't stop you putting your big mouthed, pea brain into overdrive, does it?
I didn't say anyone did. You give opinions here. Not agree with someone to avoid a tirade. You presented your facts. I proved them wrong.
You proved NOTHING.
Nothing? Do your research here. Tyson fought more top 10 contenders in a year, then Tucker did his entire career.. Even after he made a name for himself, he fought a steady diet of club types. This site or perhaps Google is your friend.
Nothing? Do your research here. Tyson fought more top 10 contenders in a year, then Tucker did his entire career.. Even after he made a name for himself, he fought a steady diet of club types. This site or perhaps Google is your friend.
Ratings are BOUGHT you imbecilic fool. Hence the subhuman King, and the fukking horrible Jose Suliamaine's of this world, idiot.
Yet you can offer no explanation as to how everyone he basically fought from Douglas on, nobody has heard of. Tuckers best days were over by Lewis. Get over it.
Ratings are BOUGHT you imbecilic fool. Hence the subhuman King, and the fukking horrible Jose Suliamaine's of this world, idiot.
Yet you can offer no explanation as to how everyone he basically fought from Douglas on, nobody has heard of. Tuckers best days were over by Lewis. Get over it.
I don't need to offer anything or anyone, other than Biggs, Tubbs, Bruno, Williams, Tillman, Stewart, Mcneeley, Mathis, Seldon I'm getting bored now, because they were all shite.
They look like ATGs compared to Tuckers competition.
I don't need to offer anything or anyone, other than Biggs, Tubbs, Bruno, Williams, Tillman, Stewart, Mcneeley, Mathis, Seldon I'm getting bored now, because they were all shite.
They look like ATGs compared to Tuckers competition.
Nah, 6 of them looked like what they were. Junkies, and 2 of the other 3 had mental health issues BEFORE they were persuaded to fight the rapist, to pad his record.
Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride,
Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride, Kevin McBriiiiiiiide
Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride,
Kevin McBriiiide, Kevin McBRIDE.
That is all ANYONE needs to know about the lowlife bully boy scum Tyson.
Seen better dogshite.
Still you cant explain all of Tuckers unknowns after he reached elite status?
Nah, 6 of them looked like what they were. Junkies, and 2 of the other 3 had mental health issues BEFORE they were persuaded to fight the rapist, to pad his record.
Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride,
Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride, Kevin McBriiiiiiiide
Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride, Kevin McBride,
Kevin McBriiiide, Kevin McBRIDE.
That is all ANYONE needs to know about the lowlife bully boy scum Tyson.
Seen better dogshite.
Still you cant explain all of Tuckers unknowns after he reached elite status?
I don't need to, as I'm not the one making the pathetically nonsensical claim that Tyson only fought elite fighters.
Never said he only fought elite fighters. Tyson like all fighters did the same at the beginning of his career. Nearly 2 decades later he fights 3 to end his career, and you want to act like Tuckers competition was as on the same level. With Tucker basically everyone was a can.
Tyson fought garbage in 95% of his fights. His 2 biggest wins were against a 38 year old who hadn't been in a ring for 20 months and a former Light Heavy. The others knocked him the fukk out.
If you really want to elevate the likes of Bruno, Berbick, Green, Tubbs, Biggs, Tillis Ruddock etc etc to anything other than cans you crack on.
Meanwhile in the real world. Anyone who knows anything at all about this game is only too well aware Tyson and his klingons wanted absolutely nothing to do with Lewis, they were scared sh.itless of him, and only agreed to the slaughter when Tyson's debts were so great there was no other way of getting out of them.
How did the coversation go from Tucker to Lewis? I'm not elevating those fighters. Big difference between those listed, and the club fighters Tucker was constantly fighting. Saying Tucker was in his prime for the Lewis fight, or that his competition was on level with Tysons is laughable.
Tyson fought garbage in 95% of his fights. His 2 biggest wins were against a 38 year old who hadn't been in a ring for 20 months and a former Light Heavy. The others knocked him the fukk out.
If you really want to elevate the likes of Bruno, Berbick, Green, Tubbs, Biggs, Tillis Ruddock etc etc to anything other than cans you crack on.
Meanwhile in the real world. Anyone who knows anything at all about this game is only too well aware Tyson and his klingons wanted absolutely nothing to do with Lewis, they were scared sh.itless of him, and only agreed to the slaughter when Tyson's debts were so great there was no other way of getting out of them.
How did the coversation go from Tucker to Lewis? I'm not elevating those fighters. Big difference between those listed, and the club fighters Tucker was constantly fighting. Saying Tucker was in his prime for the Lewis fight, or that his competition was on level with Tysons is laughable.
Yet another numpty who thinks only he knows when a guy is in his prime, or when he isn't. In your pathetic case it was when he lost to Lewis he was allegedly past his prime, even though his record was 48 - 1 going into the fight, and he was 34 years of age.
Your childish fanboy point becomes worthless when you are ready to give the rapist slime credit for beating Tucker, but not Lewis.
So only you know when a fighter is or isn't in his prime? Priceless. Tuckers sterling record at that point was built by fighting nobodies. Sad because the guy was skilled. The times he stepped up he did do well. He stepped up so infrequently, he wasn't going to get beat. Tyson beat him a full six years before Lewis. Thats the point.
Yet another numpty who thinks only he knows when a guy is in his prime, or when he isn't. In your pathetic case it was when he lost to Lewis he was allegedly past his prime, even though his record was 48 - 1 going into the fight, and he was 34 years of age.
Your childish fanboy point becomes worthless when you are ready to give the rapist slime credit for beating Tucker, but not Lewis.
So only you know when a fighter is or isn't in his prime? Priceless. Tuckers sterling record at that point was built by fighting nobodies. Sad because the guy was skilled. The times he stepped up he did do well. He stepped up so infrequently, he wasn't going to get beat. Tyson beat him a full six years before Lewis. Thats the point.
What nonsensical garbage. By your perverted logic, Douglas MUST be a better fighter than Holyfield because he beat Tyson 6 years before Holyfield did,
Idiocy, taken to a new level.
What you simply don't get through your own stupidity is Tyson feasted on junkies, alcoholics, or mentally deficient guys like Green Bruno and Berbick. Compared to Tuckers opponents Tyson's are a freak show, compounded by tomato cans like McNeeley, Francis, Savarese, Golota, and Nielsen . Tyson himself was a freak, that dumbass Muricans were still prepared to pay to watch knock over cans, and convince them stupid selves he could still beat someone like Lewis, HENCE that being the biggest grossing fight ever, up until that time.
Nobody said Douglas was better than Holyfield. Douglas beat him while he was a viable fighter. Holyfield beat him while he well past it. This comparison is supposed to show Tucker wasn't allegedlly over the hill for the Lewis fight how? Nobody said Tyson didn't fight cans at the beginning or end of his career. Its been pointed out thats all Tucker fought from start to finish.
So only you know when a fighter is or isn't in his prime? Priceless. Tuckers sterling record at that point was built by fighting nobodies. Sad because the guy was skilled. The times he stepped up he did do well. He stepped up so infrequently, he wasn't going to get beat. Tyson beat him a full six years before Lewis. Thats the point.
What nonsensical garbage. By your perverted logic, Douglas MUST be a better fighter than Holyfield because he beat Tyson 6 years before Holyfield did,
Idiocy, taken to a new level.
What you simply don't get through your own stupidity is Tyson feasted on junkies, alcoholics, or mentally deficient guys like Green Bruno and Berbick. Compared to Tuckers opponents Tyson's are a freak show, compounded by tomato cans like McNeeley, Francis, Savarese, Golota, and Nielsen . Tyson himself was a freak, that dumbass Muricans were still prepared to pay to watch knock over cans, and convince them stupid selves he could still beat someone like Lewis, HENCE that being the biggest grossing fight ever, up until that time.
Nobody said Douglas was better than Holyfield. Douglas beat him while he was a viable fighter. Holyfield beat him while he well past it. This comparison is supposed to show Tucker wasn't allegedlly over the hill for the Lewis fight how? Nobody said Tyson didn't fight cans at the beginning or end of his career. Its been pointed out thats all Tucker fought from start to finish. Of course you're the same guy claiming Tucker was in his prime for Lewis.
