I hope nobody includes Thurman into p4p lists anymore.“You’re not gonna see it in ‘18, baby. This is the get-back year...you’re not gonna be able to see it...I mean, I’m not gonna step in once — there’s a lot of competition. I believe Errol Spence is a great champion. But he can defend the title that he just acquired — he can defend that another time this year. I’m gonna defend these [belts] this year. After that I can expand — because I just became the unified champion, correct? I just became unified, he just became champion with his first title defense. I’ve yet to defend my unification. And I’m gonna be defending it after an injury.
“So this is all a get-back year. I hope later this year we can do an exciting fight for you, but it will not be EJ. EJ is to come, in the near future, but not that soon.”
Thurman knows Spence will beat him
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Thurman knows Spence will beat him
How pathetic:
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
if you look very closely between Thurman's legs, you'll see the shadows that foretell a huge, gaping chasm of a vagina
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 11:56 if you look very closely between Thurman's legs, you'll see the shadows that foretell a huge, gaping chasm of a vagina
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
I wouldn't expect Thurman to face Spence straight away after an operation but the way he's talking doesn't show him in a good light. Was hoping for Spence v Thurman this year then Spence v Crawford next year!
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Yeah, and he haven't washed it for a while, as it smells fishy.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 11:56 if you look very closely between Thurman's legs, you'll see the shadows that foretell a huge, gaping chasm of a vagina
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Crawford would school him too. probably less painfully than Spence but in a way, IMO, skilswise it may even be more humiliating.
fucken Thurman sucks, fvck him.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
thanks.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 12:29Yeah, and he haven't washed it for a while, as it smells fishy.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 11:56 if you look very closely between Thurman's legs, you'll see the shadows that foretell a huge, gaping chasm of a vagina
I mean, the original joke was probably sufficient, but I'm glad you got a kick out of a wee embellishment.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Thurman has been shooting down a matchup with Spence for several years.
Saying he won't face Spence in 2018 is old news.
Thurman is right when he said, on prior occasions, that the match needs to marinate for a while to gain some major sizzle.
It's a big time showdown, but it doesn't really step up the pulse of anyone except hardcore fans.
These guys are currently not fully on the radar of a casual boxing followers.
It will never be the modern welterweight equivalent of Leonard-Hearns or Leonard-Duran. A couple iconic bouts that transcended boxing.
But I think there's a lot of room for anticipation to grow...along with the fighters' paychecks.
By waiting 5 years, Mayweather and Pacquiao turned a proposed $50 million payday into a staggering $200 million one.
Put Spence-Thurman on hold for at least 18 months, maybe 2 years, and it becomes a box office colosus.
Hold it within a year and it disappoints financially
That's the business of boxing.
Saying he won't face Spence in 2018 is old news.
Thurman is right when he said, on prior occasions, that the match needs to marinate for a while to gain some major sizzle.
It's a big time showdown, but it doesn't really step up the pulse of anyone except hardcore fans.
These guys are currently not fully on the radar of a casual boxing followers.
It will never be the modern welterweight equivalent of Leonard-Hearns or Leonard-Duran. A couple iconic bouts that transcended boxing.
But I think there's a lot of room for anticipation to grow...along with the fighters' paychecks.
By waiting 5 years, Mayweather and Pacquiao turned a proposed $50 million payday into a staggering $200 million one.
Put Spence-Thurman on hold for at least 18 months, maybe 2 years, and it becomes a box office colosus.
Hold it within a year and it disappoints financially
That's the business of boxing.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
I think Thurman is thinking if he holds off long enough, Spence will move up, or fight Crawford first. He'll enjoy his belts while he has them, and that is only until he fights Crawford or Spence.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Thurman making himself look very bad to the fans. ![[icon_e_sad.gif] :verysad:](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
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But I suspect that as long as he remains unbeaten and holds on to his belt, that's his main priority.
Thurman, along with most boxers I suppose, are more interested in doing what's best for themself, not for the fans.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
I can hear it now....Thurman telling his grandkids "I was the welterweight champion of the world for three years!" but probably won't mention he was off for a year of it.
The way I look at it, he is now up to the level of accomplishment of Andre Berto, who was also a champ for three years.
The way I look at it, he is now up to the level of accomplishment of Andre Berto, who was also a champ for three years.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Yep i didn't expect Thurman to face Spence this year either, hopefully early 2019 this fight happens.SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 13:12 Thurman has been shooting down a matchup with Spence for several years.
Saying he won't face Spence in 2018 is old news.
Thurman is right when he said, on prior occasions, that the match needs to marinate for a while to gain some major sizzle.
It's a big time showdown, but it doesn't really step up the pulse of anyone except hardcore fans.
These guys are currently not fully on the radar of a casual boxing followers.
It will never be the modern welterweight equivalent of Leonard-Hearns or Leonard-Duran. A couple iconic bouts that transcended boxing.
But I think there's a lot of room for anticipation to grow...along with the fighters' paychecks.
By waiting 5 years, Mayweather and Pacquiao turned a proposed $50 million payday into a staggering $200 million one.
Put Spence-Thurman on hold for at least 18 months, maybe 2 years, and it becomes a box office colosus.
Hold it within a year and it disappoints financially
That's the business of boxing.
Thurman shouldn't let this fight marinate too long though, the more he puts this off the more Spence will improve and Keith will soon have no chance at all of beating this guy.
Thurman still currently has a few advantages over Spence that could help him MAYBE pull out the win if they fight sometime this year.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Such as? I have my own possible assumption but I want to hear yours?phillykid wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 23:39Yep i didn't expect Thurman to face Spence this year either, hopefully early 2019 this fight happens.SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Jan 2018, 13:12 Thurman has been shooting down a matchup with Spence for several years.
Saying he won't face Spence in 2018 is old news.
Thurman is right when he said, on prior occasions, that the match needs to marinate for a while to gain some major sizzle.
It's a big time showdown, but it doesn't really step up the pulse of anyone except hardcore fans.
These guys are currently not fully on the radar of a casual boxing followers.
It will never be the modern welterweight equivalent of Leonard-Hearns or Leonard-Duran. A couple iconic bouts that transcended boxing.
But I think there's a lot of room for anticipation to grow...along with the fighters' paychecks.
By waiting 5 years, Mayweather and Pacquiao turned a proposed $50 million payday into a staggering $200 million one.
Put Spence-Thurman on hold for at least 18 months, maybe 2 years, and it becomes a box office colosus.
Hold it within a year and it disappoints financially
That's the business of boxing.
Thurman shouldn't let this fight marinate too long though, the more he puts this off the more Spence will improve and Keith will soon have no chance at all of beating this guy.
Thurman still currently has a few advantages over Spence that could help him MAYBE pull out the win if they fight sometime this year.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
That had been my feeling.
Spence has a higher ceiling than Thurman. I really don't feel that Thurman is going to get better.
What you see from him---when we occasionally see him---is as good as it's gonna get for him.
Spence however, figures to improve quite a bit.
If they fight today, maybe Thurman's edge in big fight experience against a host of better fighters, makes a difference. Maybe.
But give Spence some time and more major spotlight bouts, and he's a good bet to definitely surpass Thurman and steamroll him in the ring.
Spence has a higher ceiling than Thurman. I really don't feel that Thurman is going to get better.
What you see from him---when we occasionally see him---is as good as it's gonna get for him.
Spence however, figures to improve quite a bit.
If they fight today, maybe Thurman's edge in big fight experience against a host of better fighters, makes a difference. Maybe.
But give Spence some time and more major spotlight bouts, and he's a good bet to definitely surpass Thurman and steamroll him in the ring.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Thurman will be the most intelligent guy that Spence has ever faced. Thurman is well aware of everything at all times. IMO he did JUST enough to beat Danny, without exerting himself too much and he switched his style at the right moment to do it midway through the fight. Thurman also has a slight experience edge in big fights and has been a champ longer, though this may not be too important especially by the time the fight happens.
Thurman also might be the first guy to really test Spence's chin. The style matchup itself almost guarantees that Thurman will be backed into a corner(figuratively) where he will be forced to try to live up to his nickname. We all joke about Thurmans power but i wouldn't write it off in the biggest fight of his career. IMO its 50/50 right now.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Neither fighter, nor analysts know for certain which fighter would win this match-up. There are idiots who incorrectly believe that they know. Some of those idiots are in this thread.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
I'm a bit disappointed in Thurman, especially as he has the best resume of the major players at 147.
I can understand the logic of not wanting to go into a superfight straight after surgery, but knocking out the fight for the whole of 2018?
Madness from him to admit such a thing publicly.
I can understand the logic of not wanting to go into a superfight straight after surgery, but knocking out the fight for the whole of 2018?
Madness from him to admit such a thing publicly.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
There are also idiots who don't know about probabilities, and one of them recently posted in this thread.
Nobody can say for certain who wins, but one can say with some degree of certainty that a better fighter will likely win. Thurman's words prove that he is not an idiot and knows who will likely win in their fight with Spence.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
You do know that he'll likely be fighting Porter after his tuneup, most likely. Porter arguably already beat Thurman.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
The longer this plays out, the more this looks like Spence is playing the role of "the hunter" and Thurman is "the hunted".
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
You all are quick to crucify someone.
Not only has Thurman been inactive, but he's coming off an injury. Do we just ignore who has faced to date and crucify him for wanting to delay a fight with a killer like Spence?
I believe Spence would win. But it's far from a foregone conclusion. When fans don't get what they want when they want it, they become the most irrational bunch I've ever seen. It's like PMS time for boxing fans.
Let's keep things in perspective here. Most of you just dislike Thurman, and the sooner he loses, the better.
Not only has Thurman been inactive, but he's coming off an injury. Do we just ignore who has faced to date and crucify him for wanting to delay a fight with a killer like Spence?
I believe Spence would win. But it's far from a foregone conclusion. When fans don't get what they want when they want it, they become the most irrational bunch I've ever seen. It's like PMS time for boxing fans.
Let's keep things in perspective here. Most of you just dislike Thurman, and the sooner he loses, the better.
Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
In Boxing you're allowed a little leeway sometimes, but not one duck. Ducking is one of Boxing's great sins, and it is deserving of the harshest criticism. Especially a duck as blatant as this.Impractical Poster wrote: ↑26 Jan 2018, 15:46 You all are quick to crucify someone.
Not only has Thurman been inactive, but he's coming off an injury. Do we just ignore who has faced to date and crucify him for wanting to delay a fight with a killer like Spence?
I believe Spence would win. But it's far from a foregone conclusion. When fans don't get what they want when they want it, they become the most irrational bunch I've ever seen. It's like PMS time for boxing fans.
Let's keep things in perspective here. Most of you just dislike Thurman, and the sooner he loses, the better.
I have no issue with Thurman taking a fight other than Spence after his first one back, but the fact that he says "Not in 2018 baby" meaning that even should he win a fight in March or April or whatever, and would have the whole rest of the year to fight Spence he's not going to because he's simply scared...or at least that's the way it reads to me.
I always respected Thurman before this, and I still have respect for him, but it has been diminished significantly because there's no face he can put on this that doesn't make him look pathetic.
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Re: Thurman knows Spence will beat him
Thurman is probably hoping Spence moves up within 18 months and takes care of the problem for him