Usyk vs Briedis

[dagilechia]

maybe i am wrong but i think that people who give big chances to Briedis will be quite disappointed

[pound per pound]

Who ya got? If it goes to the cards, will hometown advantage come into play?

Boxrec #1 vs boxrec #2

Usyk to win and become the unified CW champion, then move up to heavy where I think he's actually better than Wider or Parker, Joshua? We'll see I hope!

Briedis is very good, but not as skilled and I think would need to KO the very sturdy to win.

75% chance Usyk, most likely on points or late round TKO

[diddy]

Usyk at 8-1 when getting robbed blind is a huge possibility is terrible odds.

[Boxing Writer]

Who do you expect to win in Gassiev - Dorticos fight?

i think this fight is a CW version of Joshua vs Wilder with Gassiev being AJ and Dorticos Wilder. i expect they will exchange a lot of punches and Gassiev comes out as the tougher one and wins by late stoppage after a very even fight. it could be similar to AJ vs Klitschko fight but honestly i dont expect Gassiev to be knocked down. Dorticos is good but i think Gassiev is tougher and generally has better skills and technique, Dorticos punches rather harder than Gassiev but it doesnt change the fact that Gassiev is a hard puncher too and his liver punch is a lethal weapon, he knocked out Wlodarczyk and knocked down Lebedev like this. i find out that a lot of people think that Dorticos is faster but i believe Gassiev just proves that they were wrong. i am more impressed by Gassiev win over Wlodarczyk than Dorticos over Kudryashov, everyone knew that the Russian is a very static and open target and quite chinny, Wlodarczyk, while he's past it, was stopped first time in his career in his almost 60 fight. this fight seems to be far more entertaining than Usyk vs Briedis. Gassiev also often seems to me like a bigger version of Golovkin. vs Lebedev he received some big shots but never was rocked or so, and just look at his powerful neck, i am not surprised if he got the best chin in CW division. he is a big guy, if both Usyk, Gassiev and Dorticos move to HW they could make this division far more interesting. well, Briedis could do well too, he knocked out a HW Charr easily. here you can see Gassiev compared to Klitschko, he is bigger than some blown up HW http://photo.BS.com/uploads/kl ... assiev.jpg
if Gassiev fights let's say Dillian Whyte, i am pretty sure he wins easily
i can see him beating Parker too, Joseph is slower, less skilled, his punch is not so impressive especially against tough opponents and as i say Gassiev is very tough, there is no big size difference too

I won't be surprised if one or both of these guys would try to box versus trying to stop an opponent early.

P.S. I think both of them are better than AJ and Wilder and would destroy them if they were the same size.

Yes, but size matters. Holyfield was better all-around, more versatile fighter than Lewis and Bowe. Still had tons of problems against each of them (although he was past his prime when he fought Lewis). If Valuev was the same size as Povetkin he would probably retire with 0-52 record. Size matters.

[Boxing Writer]

i think Briedis fits Usyk better than Gassiev or Dorticos and he wins easily, the cards will be like 118-110 116-112

all of the WBSS fights i watch on youtube stream, i usually post a stream link here on the forum for these who couldnt find it

Who do you expect to win in Gassiev - Dorticos fight?

i think this fight is a CW version of Joshua vs Wilder with Gassiev being AJ and Dorticos Wilder. i expect they will exchange a lot of punches and Gassiev comes out as the tougher one and wins by late stoppage after a very even fight. it could be similar to AJ vs Klitschko fight but honestly i dont expect Gassiev to be knocked down. Dorticos is good but i think Gassiev is tougher and generally has better skills and technique, Dorticos punches rather harder than Gassiev but it doesnt change the fact that Gassiev is a hard puncher too and his liver punch is a lethal weapon, he knocked out Wlodarczyk and knocked down Lebedev like this. i find out that a lot of people think that Dorticos is faster but i believe Gassiev just proves that they were wrong. i am more impressed by Gassiev win over Wlodarczyk than Dorticos over Kudryashov, everyone knew that the Russian is a very static and open target and quite chinny, Wlodarczyk, while he's past it, was stopped first time in his career in his almost 60 fight. this fight seems to be far more entertaining than Usyk vs Briedis. Gassiev also often seems to me like a bigger version of Golovkin. vs Lebedev he received some big shots but never was rocked or so, and just look at his powerful neck, i am not surprised if he got the best chin in CW division. he is a big guy, if both Usyk, Gassiev and Dorticos move to HW they could make this division far more interesting. well, Briedis could do well too, he knocked out a HW Charr easily. here you can see Gassiev compared to Klitschko, he is bigger than some blown up HW http://photo.BS.com/uploads/kl ... assiev.jpg
if Gassiev fights let's say Dillian Whyte, i am pretty sure he wins easily
i can see him beating Parker too, Joseph is slower, less skilled, his punch is not so impressive especially against tough opponents and as i say Gassiev is very tough, there is no big size difference too

I favour Gassiev against Dorticos because of his body punching too. I think any of the 4 participants of the WBSS semifinals would easily beat Manuel Charr even if they were fighting him weighing in below cruiserweight limit. Hell, I think 46 y.o. Fres Oquendo will beat Munel Charr.

[jamamb]

how many hours till this fights on

[Ruthless-RKO]

how many hours till this fights on

In the UK, ITV Box Office will screen although this programme will be free to view. Starts at 8:45pm, on Sky 493 and at www.tvplayer.com.

[dagilechia]

Who do you expect to win in Gassiev - Dorticos fight?

i think this fight is a CW version of Joshua vs Wilder with Gassiev being AJ and Dorticos Wilder. i expect they will exchange a lot of punches and Gassiev comes out as the tougher one and wins by late stoppage after a very even fight. it could be similar to AJ vs Klitschko fight but honestly i dont expect Gassiev to be knocked down. Dorticos is good but i think Gassiev is tougher and generally has better skills and technique, Dorticos punches rather harder than Gassiev but it doesnt change the fact that Gassiev is a hard puncher too and his liver punch is a lethal weapon, he knocked out Wlodarczyk and knocked down Lebedev like this. i find out that a lot of people think that Dorticos is faster but i believe Gassiev just proves that they were wrong. i am more impressed by Gassiev win over Wlodarczyk than Dorticos over Kudryashov, everyone knew that the Russian is a very static and open target and quite chinny, Wlodarczyk, while he's past it, was stopped first time in his career in his almost 60 fight. this fight seems to be far more entertaining than Usyk vs Briedis. Gassiev also often seems to me like a bigger version of Golovkin. vs Lebedev he received some big shots but never was rocked or so, and just look at his powerful neck, i am not surprised if he got the best chin in CW division. he is a big guy, if both Usyk, Gassiev and Dorticos move to HW they could make this division far more interesting. well, Briedis could do well too, he knocked out a HW Charr easily. here you can see Gassiev compared to Klitschko, he is bigger than some blown up HW http://photo.BS.com/uploads/kl ... assiev.jpg
if Gassiev fights let's say Dillian Whyte, i am pretty sure he wins easily
i can see him beating Parker too, Joseph is slower, less skilled, his punch is not so impressive especially against tough opponents and as i say Gassiev is very tough, there is no big size difference too

I favour Gassiev against Dorticos because of his body punching too. I think any of the 4 participants of the WBSS semifinals would easily beat Manuel Charr even if they were fighting him weighing in below cruiserweight limit. Hell, I think 46 y.o. Fres Oquendo will beat Munel Charr.

Oquendo vs Charr will be the worst HW ''world championship'' fight ever, i can find 50 HW boxers that beat them, i think also that CW top 20 would beat both of them too. ABC federations rankings are garbage and are worth nothing, i would like the system where champion has to fight boxers ranked 5 or higher, fighters ranked 1-5 have to fight 6-10, fighters ranked 11-15 have to fight themselves to enter the top 10, losers are out and new contender enters the top 15, of course this is not going to happen because boxing is a business

[Cent0089]

so ....all 4 belts will be on the line in tournament final right ?

[dagilechia]

so ....all 4 belts will be on the line in tournament final right ?

not at all, Dorticos has WBA regular, while Lebedev owns WBA super belt
so 3 real belts and 1 ''belt''

[jamamb]

lol at that situation when gassiev beat lebedev two fights ago. funny for leb to be regarded as the main wba champ rather then the winner of this fight .

[Counter-puncher]

i think Briedis fits Usyk better than Gassiev or Dorticos and he wins easily, the cards will be like 118-110 116-112

all of the WBSS fights i watch on youtube stream, i usually post a stream link here on the forum for these who couldnt find it

Who do you expect to win in Gassiev - Dorticos fight?

i think this fight is a CW version of Joshua vs Wilder with Gassiev being AJ and Dorticos Wilder. i expect they will exchange a lot of punches and Gassiev comes out as the tougher one and wins by late stoppage after a very even fight. it could be similar to AJ vs Klitschko fight but honestly i dont expect Gassiev to be knocked down. Dorticos is good but i think Gassiev is tougher and generally has better skills and technique, Dorticos punches rather harder than Gassiev but it doesnt change the fact that Gassiev is a hard puncher too and his liver punch is a lethal weapon, he knocked out Wlodarczyk and knocked down Lebedev like this. i find out that a lot of people think that Dorticos is faster but i believe Gassiev just proves that they were wrong. i am more impressed by Gassiev win over Wlodarczyk than Dorticos over Kudryashov, everyone knew that the Russian is a very static and open target and quite chinny, Wlodarczyk, while he's past it, was stopped first time in his career in his almost 60 fight. this fight seems to be far more entertaining than Usyk vs Briedis. Gassiev also often seems to me like a bigger version of Golovkin. vs Lebedev he received some big shots but never was rocked or so, and just look at his powerful neck, i am not surprised if he got the best chin in CW division. he is a big guy, if both Usyk, Gassiev and Dorticos move to HW they could make this division far more interesting. well, Briedis could do well too, he knocked out a HW Charr easily. here you can see Gassiev compared to Klitschko, he is bigger than some blown up HW http://photo.BS.com/uploads/kl ... assiev.jpg
if Gassiev fights let's say Dillian Whyte, i am pretty sure he wins easily
i can see him beating Parker too, Joseph is slower, less skilled, his punch is not so impressive especially against tough opponents and as i say Gassiev is very tough, there is no big size difference too

Good post

[Freedom2013]

[gilgamesh]

Ok...people can't seem to make up their minds on this.

Is it Aleksandr Usyk or Oleksandr?

Seriously I don't know

[Mexi-Box]

Props to whomever mentioned these guys being on another level to Joshua and Wilder. 100% fact. The level at the CW is insane at the moment. All 4 of these finalists have more talent than anyone at HW. It'd be tough not to consider the winner p4p 1-3. Briedis, Gassiev, Dorticos, or Usyk on anyone's resume is an insane accomplishment.

I can't wait for this one, though. I think it'll be a stinker, but this will be boxing at the highest level.

[Ilya Muromets]

Starts at 4PM ET, I think.

Odds are getting closer. Now 5-1 in favor of Usyk.

Someone said it will be streamed free and legal on a Russian website. Anyone know where?

[Ilya Muromets]

Props to whomever mentioned these guys being on another level to Joshua and Wilder. 100% fact. The level at the CW is insane at the moment. All 4 of these finalists have more talent than anyone at HW. It'd be tough not to consider the winner p4p 1-3. Briedis, Gassiev, Dorticos, or Usyk on anyone's resume is an insane accomplishment.

I can't wait for this one, though. I think it'll be a stinker, but this will be boxing at the highest level.

And these cruiserweights were actual heavyweights throughout most of the history of boxing, up until a few years ago when giants started dominating.

[Ilya Muromets]

Ok...people can't seem to make up their minds on this.

Is it Aleksandr Usyk or Oleksandr?

Seriously I don't know

It's actually Олекса́ндр Олекса́ндрович У́сик.

[dagilechia]

Ok...people can't seem to make up their minds on this.

Is it Aleksandr Usyk or Oleksandr?

Seriously I don't know

Aleksandr in Russian, Oleksandr in Ukrainian

[gilgamesh]

Ok...people can't seem to make up their minds on this.

Is it Aleksandr Usyk or Oleksandr?

Seriously I don't know

Aleksandr in Russian, Oleksandr in Ukrainian

Alright, that settles it for me then. Seeing as how he is Ukrainian I'll always refer to him as Oleksandr going forward. I always had anyway, this just makes it official.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Counter-puncher]

Props to whomever mentioned these guys being on another level to Joshua and Wilder. 100% fact. The level at the CW is insane at the moment. All 4 of these finalists have more talent than anyone at HW. It'd be tough not to consider the winner p4p 1-3. Briedis, Gassiev, Dorticos, or Usyk on anyone's resume is an insane accomplishment.

I can't wait for this one, though. I think it'll be a stinker, but this will be boxing at the highest level.

Cruiser is a gift that has been giving for a long time but this tourney is next-level Win

[Ilya Muromets]

His name is actually Alexander - or Olexander - same thing - Son of Alexander Ooseek. But you can just call him Sasha. We're all friends here.

[Ilya Muromets]

An artist once drew Usyk with wings. Usyk said we all have wings but we don't all use them.

[Mexi-Box]

Props to whomever mentioned these guys being on another level to Joshua and Wilder. 100% fact. The level at the CW is insane at the moment. All 4 of these finalists have more talent than anyone at HW. It'd be tough not to consider the winner p4p 1-3. Briedis, Gassiev, Dorticos, or Usyk on anyone's resume is an insane accomplishment.

I can't wait for this one, though. I think it'll be a stinker, but this will be boxing at the highest level.

And these cruiserweights were actual heavyweights throughout most of the history of boxing, up until a few years ago when giants started dominating.

Some are while some aren't, though. I don't think Lebedev has the frame to be a force at HW like he is at CW. Other than that, it is true that CW does take a lot of talent from the HW division. Usyk, Gassiev, Briedis, etc. are all HW's that fight at CW.

All 3 can honestly go into the HW division, and I would strongly favor them to beat Wilder. Usyk goes on to beat Joshua. Not sure about Gassiev and Briedis, though.

[jamamb]

usyk could beat parker , maybe even by a lot, but get real hes not beating aj