Usyk vs Briedis

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Re: Usyk vs Briedis

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im on multple forums and only seen draw or usyk. most seem to have usy and by 8-4 or so
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Rob3_142 wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:22
lazboy wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:18 Have to agree with the judges re: how close it was. Usyk took the later rounds but his walking forward was not effective early on and he missed a fair bit throughout the whole fight really. Very tough fight to score for me anyhow. Felt Briedis was winning the inside exchanges and had power over usyk early on. Usyk work rate is what pulled him through, he worked harder. That was evident.
Granted some of the rounds were harder to score, especially in the first half, but to say that Usyk was ineffective when coming forward in the earlier stages is very fanciful. He was landing at will with his jab, and was landing the majority of the left hands. Breidis couldn't get in range to get his shots off. Was totally trumped in range, and that was the difference for me tonight.
Landing the majority of the left hands early on? Later on maybe, he landed some clear nice ones, but not earlier I do not argee. Briedis demonstrates a decent jab and better inside work in the first half giving him in the edge in very close rounds.
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Gassiev is bigger, stronger and technically better than Briedis, he could give more troubles to Usyk
some say that Usyk is too easy to hit but imo just few punches landed or him are really clean, lots of punches are blocked by his gloves, also footwork helps him to defend well and not to get punched clean at all, he rarely comes on a punch
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usyks a road warror

won ttle vs glowacik in poland
defended vs huck in germany
defended vs hunter in us
unfy vs breds in latvia
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dagilechia wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:35 Gassiev is bigger, stronger and technically better than Briedis, he could give more troubles to Usyk
some say that Usyk is too easy to hit but imo just few punches landed or him are really clean, lots of punches are blocked by his gloves, also footwork helps him to defend well and not to get punched clean at all, he rarely comes on a punch
yes although gassevs much more predctable and much more ploddng than bredes. and he doesnt seem to up the pace at all.
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vizzy22 wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:22 Those who say that the fight was a CLEAR victory to Usyk are clearly either Ukrainians or fans of Usyk. I too think Usyk should have won, but it was really close. This should have been the final. Lets hope Gasiev can last at least 6 against Usyk.
It was a clear victory for Usyk. More clear than the official judges saw it. I'm American, and have no emotional stake in whether or not Usyk was the better fighter. He just was.
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Clear win for Usyk, Briedis is no bum though. Did people expect a blowout?
jamamb wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:35 usyks a road warror

won ttle vs glowacik in poland
defended vs huck in germany
defended vs hunter in us
unfy vs breds in latvia
Very sick track record.
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Imagine if this fight had been in Las Vegas and Briedis had been the US fighter. Adelaide Byrd and her judgey friends would have awarded him the fight 12 rounds to zero. The Las Vegas ref would have been in Usyk's face every two seconds. Doctor Margaret would have "discovered" drugs on Usyk. The US tv announcers would have been shilling it up to the max. Yes, it is so nice to see a fight so far away from Las Vegas for a change, and fighters so far away from the chest pounding clowns that you see so often now in places like Las Vegas!
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jamamb wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:35 usyks a road warror

won ttle vs glowacik in poland
defended vs huck in germany
defended vs hunter in us
unfy vs breds in latvia
next very likely he fight Gassiev in Russia so yeah, but it's nice for him, he is beloved in his native Ukraine, and he can earn a lot of respect in other countries. i have seen his fight vs Glowacki live, i was very impressed, he is definitely seen as a boxing star, among casuals only Joshua is better known in Poland (except of Polish fighters of course). and he is very liked by most (except some his nationality biased folks)
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dagilechia wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:26 this is the only forum i follow that everyone agrees that Usyk won, which is surprising, i can't imagine how Briedis actually won but seems like quite lot of people think so
I thought rounds 2, 3 and 12 were all close and I gave those to Usyk. If I had instead given all those rounds to Breidis I'd have a draw.

Every other round was crystal clear for Usyk.

And Round 9 which I score for Breidis could've been scored for Usyk I thought. So close rounds go both ways.
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I enjoyed the fight, I though Briedis had the better of the opening rounds, keeping Usyk honest with a solid straight right that found its mark quite a few times. Briedis was better during the infighting but allowed Usyk to dictate the fight for long periods from Rd 4 onwards. I think Briedis hurt Usyk in the last round with about 30 seconds to go but it was fleeting and Usyk finished stronger.

Cards were about right except the draw.

Usyk does not hit hard enough to trouble Joshua and even had trouble stopping Briedis coming forward. Joshua would walk straight through him and break him up before forcing a stoppage
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The Clan wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:44 I enjoyed the fight, I though Briedis had the better of the opening rounds, keeping Usyk honest with a solid straight right that found its mark quite a few times. Briedis was better during the infighting but allowed Usyk to dictate the fight for long periods from Rd 4 onwards. I think Briedis hurt Usyk in the last round with about 30 seconds to go but it was fleeting and Usyk finished stronger.

Cards were about right except the draw.

Usyk does not hit hard enough to trouble Joshua and even had trouble stopping Briedis coming forward. Joshua would walk straight through him and break him up before forcing a stoppage
i agree that Joshua rather beats and stops Usyk, but we have to know that in such a fight we would see Usyk fighting totally different, less agressive more defensive, using his quick jab and footwork, Joshua could just not find him, also, stamina which is a strong side of Usyk could be an important factor
also, Usyk seems to have long hands, difference in reach between Usyk and Joshua is not very huge i think
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Re: Usyk vs Briedis

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Usyk:Briedis
Jabs Thrown 550:137
Jabs landed 91:46
Power Thrown 298:442
Power Landed 121:149
Total Thrown 848:579
Total Landed 212:195
Usyk 25% connection rate only
i found these stats but i am not sure they are legit at all
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dagilechia wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 20:01 Usyk:Briedis
Jabs Thrown 550:137
Jabs landed 91:46
Power Thrown 298:442
Power Landed 121:149
Total Thrown 848:579
Total Landed 212:195
Usyk 25% connection rate only
i found these stats but i am not sure they are legit at all
Looks right to me. I don’t particularly like punch stats though. Do they count blocked punches and then what about punches that break through the guard and/ or the power carries through a block.
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Scores were great. I thought it could've gone either way. I thought Usyk by a hair, though. Great series. Briedis showed he's a force at CW. I can't wait to see Gassiev/Dorticos. That's one where you can't blink.
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Exactly why I didn’t bet Usyk. You can’t bet anyone on the road. Had he won 9 rounds instead of 10 they’d have robbed him. Boxing sucks.
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diddy wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 20:41 Exactly why I didn’t bet Usyk. You can’t bet anyone on the road. Had he won 9 rounds instead of 10 they’d have robbed him. Boxing sucks.
You suck at scoring. Briedis winning wouldn't have been a robbery. Throughout a lot of forums I'm seeing lots call it a close fight. Close fights ARE NOT ROBBERIES!
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It was a close fight in the first 6 rounds, but then Usyk swept the rest.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 21:04 It was a close fight in the first 6 rounds, but then Usyk swept the rest.
No he didn't. Briedis took the 9th.
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By the way, that was a high-level war. Both dudes could move up to HW and destroy the division. Very, very talented fighters, both of them.
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Good fight and well fought by both boxers, I don't know how the judges made it as close as they did though.
It looked to me like Usyk won at least 8 rounds minimum 10 rounds maximum.
Usyk's right jab was in Briedis face almost all of the fight as he maintained a steady brisk pace for the entire twelve rounds, Briedis was game but had a problem avoiding the lead right from the get go and just couldn't build enough of a resistance to stop it.
Briedis tried to fight his way through the jab but kept on getting clipped by it time and again as Usyk built up the lead, there was a brief moment or two when Briedis scored with the odd body shot and looked like he might turn the fight around but Usyk kept his shape and stuck to an already successful game plan.
The right man won at the end of the day.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 21:06
boxing_rocks wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 21:04 It was a close fight in the first 6 rounds, but then Usyk swept the rest.
No he didn't. Briedis took the 9th.
Thought the 9th was close. I gave Breidis the 12th. My feed cut out and I missed the 11th.
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jamamb wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 19:35 usyks a road warror

won ttle vs glowacik in poland
defended vs huck in germany
defended vs hunter in us
unfy vs breds in latvia
Nice post :TU: Good points :TU:
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Re: Usyk vs Briedis

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Usyk won 8 or 9 rounds. He definitely won 5 of the last 6 and at least half of the first 6.
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