Shannon Briggs offered Deontay Wilder $2 million

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gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:40
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:37 So I'm reading that Tyson Fury has sent Briggs a contract and intends to fight him in 2018.

But Fury makes it clear that he won't fight Briggs in his first comeback bout, which the Brit claims will happen "probably in April."

Maybe he feels that the inactive Briggs is too tough after being off more than 2 1/2 years.

Fury will probably be looking for a Phil De Greco type opponent for his initial comeback bout.

And Fury, for some reason, also says that he's targeting has-been Antonio Tarver this year.

Tarver hasn't fought since drawing with Cunningham in 2015.

You can't help but notice that Fury had his eyes set on some real old timers.

Briggs is 47. Tarver turns 50 this year.

Is George Foreman still available?
Why did he give the exact same response "I'll fight him, but not in my first fight back" that he gave to Tarver? Something tells me people are getting his tweets and what he's actually saying confused.

Phil Lo Greco is a more dangerous opponent for Khan than Briggs would be for Fury. Briggs is no threat to any meaningful Heavyweight, even a fat one that hasn't fought in 2 and a half years.
He fought 9 guys since 2014, and KOed 7 of them in the first round and one in the 2nd, by far most of them were actual KO's, not TKO's. I can't say that, or even anything close, about Tarver or Cunningham. And sure not about Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka or Duhaupas, TBH I would be highly surprised if Briggs wouldn't KO Stiverne in the first round if they fought.
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gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:40
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:37 So I'm reading that Tyson Fury has sent Briggs a contract and intends to fight him in 2018.

But Fury makes it clear that he won't fight Briggs in his first comeback bout, which the Brit claims will happen "probably in April."

Maybe he feels that the inactive Briggs is too tough after being off more than 2 1/2 years.

Fury will probably be looking for a Phil De Greco type opponent for his initial comeback bout.

And Fury, for some reason, also says that he's targeting has-been Antonio Tarver this year.

Tarver hasn't fought since drawing with Cunningham in 2015.

You can't help but notice that Fury had his eyes set on some real old timers.

Briggs is 47. Tarver turns 50 this year.

Is George Foreman still available?
Why did he give the exact same response "I'll fight him, but not in my first fight back" that he gave to Tarver? Something tells me people are getting his tweets and what he's actually saying confused.

Phil Lo Greco is a more dangerous opponent for Khan than Briggs would be for Fury. Briggs is no threat to any meaningful Heavyweight, even a fat one that hasn't fought in 2 and a half years.
Agreed.

And that's exactly why Fury would consider and is maybe eager to fight Briggs. No threat.

And the same can be said about Tarver.

If Fury struggles with these guys, even in victory,then you know his glory days have passed him by.
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gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:08
Tony1244 wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:04 Briggs is so old and brittle he doesn't even need a PED test. Put it on PPV and I'll pay $25 to see the KO.
Seriously they shouldn't waste Wilder or AJ or even Parker's time with this. Briggs should fight somebody like a Chisora or a Travis Kauffman. He'd have no shot against guys like that even.

I'd be disgusted if Briggs were given a title shot.

Frankly if his fight with Oquendo had come off as expected I would've picked Oquendo to have outboxed him. That's how shot he is.

Speaking of Oquendo...apparently his fight with Charr ain't happening now either? How long is this guy gonna be owed a "mandatory" WBA title shot that just will not f*cking happen. For f*cks sake just throw him in there with some guy from a local bar somewhere and get it over with.
I think Jesus will come back before Oquendo gets a "title" fight that transpires.

You and I know that Briggs would likely lose against a Kauffman or Chisora. Problem is, Briggs knows this as well, which is why it ain't happening.

In the good ol' days a fight like Wilder-Briggs would happen like Ali-Coopman or Ali-Evanglista and the champ would be fighting again in 90 days. But now boxing matches are made sooooooo sloooowllyyy or don't happen at all which is why "Off Topic" is so popular.
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asdfjkl wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:51
gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:40
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:37 So I'm reading that Tyson Fury has sent Briggs a contract and intends to fight him in 2018.

But Fury makes it clear that he won't fight Briggs in his first comeback bout, which the Brit claims will happen "probably in April."

Maybe he feels that the inactive Briggs is too tough after being off more than 2 1/2 years.

Fury will probably be looking for a Phil De Greco type opponent for his initial comeback bout.

And Fury, for some reason, also says that he's targeting has-been Antonio Tarver this year.

Tarver hasn't fought since drawing with Cunningham in 2015.

You can't help but notice that Fury had his eyes set on some real old timers.

Briggs is 47. Tarver turns 50 this year.

Is George Foreman still available?
Why did he give the exact same response "I'll fight him, but not in my first fight back" that he gave to Tarver? Something tells me people are getting his tweets and what he's actually saying confused.

Phil Lo Greco is a more dangerous opponent for Khan than Briggs would be for Fury. Briggs is no threat to any meaningful Heavyweight, even a fat one that hasn't fought in 2 and a half years.
He fought 9 guys since 2014, and KOed 7 of them in the first round and one in the 2nd, by far most of them were actual KO's, not TKO's. I can't say that, or even anything close, about Tarver or Cunningham. And sure not about Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka or Duhaupas, TBH I would be highly surprised if Briggs wouldn't KO Stiverne in the first round if they fought.

Briggs has fought an endless string of bums since he was practically killed by Klitschko.

Of course he's built up a record. Anyone would.

But where are actual live bodies on that record since Vitali?

Briggs hasn't licked a beating heart since he stopped Liakhovich more than a decade ago. And Liakhovich wasn't exactly anything resembling an elite champion.

The guy can still open his mouth as well as he did in his youth, but his skills have long since vanished.

You're impressed by Briggs because you can't tell the difference between endless setup opponents and world class fighters.
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asdfjkl wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:51
gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:40
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:37 So I'm reading that Tyson Fury has sent Briggs a contract and intends to fight him in 2018.

But Fury makes it clear that he won't fight Briggs in his first comeback bout, which the Brit claims will happen "probably in April."

Maybe he feels that the inactive Briggs is too tough after being off more than 2 1/2 years.

Fury will probably be looking for a Phil De Greco type opponent for his initial comeback bout.

And Fury, for some reason, also says that he's targeting has-been Antonio Tarver this year.

Tarver hasn't fought since drawing with Cunningham in 2015.

You can't help but notice that Fury had his eyes set on some real old timers.

Briggs is 47. Tarver turns 50 this year.

Is George Foreman still available?
Why did he give the exact same response "I'll fight him, but not in my first fight back" that he gave to Tarver? Something tells me people are getting his tweets and what he's actually saying confused.

Phil Lo Greco is a more dangerous opponent for Khan than Briggs would be for Fury. Briggs is no threat to any meaningful Heavyweight, even a fat one that hasn't fought in 2 and a half years.
He fought 9 guys since 2014, and KOed 7 of them in the first round and one in the 2nd, by far most of them were actual KO's, not TKO's. I can't say that, or even anything close, about Tarver or Cunningham. And sure not about Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka or Duhaupas, TBH I would be highly surprised if Briggs wouldn't KO Stiverne in the first round if they fought.
That's because the other guys didn't fight the journeymen that Briggs fought. Stiverne is no longer in the picture. May as well bring up Cliff Ettienne. Either are Arreola or Szpilkva for that matter.

The Frenchman would beat Briggs easily.
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SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 14:06
asdfjkl wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:51
gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:40
Why did he give the exact same response "I'll fight him, but not in my first fight back" that he gave to Tarver? Something tells me people are getting his tweets and what he's actually saying confused.

Phil Lo Greco is a more dangerous opponent for Khan than Briggs would be for Fury. Briggs is no threat to any meaningful Heavyweight, even a fat one that hasn't fought in 2 and a half years.
He fought 9 guys since 2014, and KOed 7 of them in the first round and one in the 2nd, by far most of them were actual KO's, not TKO's. I can't say that, or even anything close, about Tarver or Cunningham. And sure not about Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka or Duhaupas, TBH I would be highly surprised if Briggs wouldn't KO Stiverne in the first round if they fought.

Briggs has fought an endless string of bums since he was practically killed by Klitschko.

Of course he's built up a record. Anyone would.

But where are actual live bodies on that record since Vitali?

Briggs hasn't licked a beating heart since he stopped Liakhovich more than a decade ago. And Liakhovich wasn't exactly anything resembling an elite champion.

The guy can still open his mouth as well as he did in his youth, but his skills have long since vanished.

You're impressed by Briggs because you can't tell the difference between endless setup opponents and world class fighters.
:TU: Indeed. The guys that Briggs has KO'ed since losing to Vitali were all just human punching bags more or less. Zumbano Love was at least a tough one that was able to last the distance.
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And Zambano Love has been KOd 6 times in his career as part of his 16 defeats.

Briggs didn't cover himself in glory by letting this journeyman last the distance.

Zambano Love pretty much built up his record by feasting on anonymous Brazilian punching bags.
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SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 14:26 And Zambano Love has been KOd 6 times in his career as part of his 16 defeats.

Briggs didn't cover himself in glory by letting this journeyman last the distance.

Zambano Love pretty much built up his record by feasting on anonymous Brazilian punching bags.
In all fairness Zumbano Love is actually pretty damn tough though. He can take a punch. He's been KO'ed six times though because he essentially tries to block every punch with his face :lol:

I've seen Zumbano Love fight maybe 2 or 3 times, and I'll bet he was hit with 80% of his opponents punches in those fights.

If you miss him, you have to be trying.
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SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 14:06
asdfjkl wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:51
gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 13:40
Why did he give the exact same response "I'll fight him, but not in my first fight back" that he gave to Tarver? Something tells me people are getting his tweets and what he's actually saying confused.

Phil Lo Greco is a more dangerous opponent for Khan than Briggs would be for Fury. Briggs is no threat to any meaningful Heavyweight, even a fat one that hasn't fought in 2 and a half years.
He fought 9 guys since 2014, and KOed 7 of them in the first round and one in the 2nd, by far most of them were actual KO's, not TKO's. I can't say that, or even anything close, about Tarver or Cunningham. And sure not about Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka or Duhaupas, TBH I would be highly surprised if Briggs wouldn't KO Stiverne in the first round if they fought.

Briggs has fought an endless string of bums since he was practically killed by Klitschko.

Of course he's built up a record. Anyone would.

But where are actual live bodies on that record since Vitali?

Briggs hasn't licked a beating heart since he stopped Liakhovich more than a decade ago. And Liakhovich wasn't exactly anything resembling an elite champion.

The guy can still open his mouth as well as he did in his youth, but his skills have long since vanished.

You're impressed by Briggs because you can't tell the difference between endless setup opponents and world class fighters.
He's fighting bums because nobody with a heartbeat dares to fight him, that's not his fault, if everybody ignores you, you're stuck. The only fights he could get where bumfights.
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What are you his press agent or something? :lol:
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SenorPipino wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 14:26 And Zambano Love has been KOd 6 times in his career as part of his 16 defeats.

Briggs didn't cover himself in glory by letting this journeyman last the distance.

Zambano Love pretty much built up his record by feasting on anonymous Brazilian punching bags.
Back in the days he was actually in the boxrec top 100 and he wasn't even the only top 100 heavyweight Briggs fought. Also note that this guy claims Briggs was the hardest puncher he ever faced, this while he faced AJ for example.
Yes his tactic was running running running and avoid getting hit and try something in the latest round hoping Briggs was tired. Well Briggs wasn't and Briggs won all rounds.
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gilgamesh wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 16:37 What are you his press agent or something? :lol:
TBH I'm not even a fan of him any more, but fact remains, he was much better as anyone, and you especially, is suggesting right now.
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He's a big hitter. Always has been. But he has no stamina, and isn't able to land his power against Elite opponents. That was true of him even when he was in his prime.

I can't imagine anybody that is even remotely credible as a contender not being able to survive the 1 or 2 rounds when he'd be dangerous, and then proceeding to kick his ass. The best guys could just wipe him out straight away before he even throws a punch.
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Briggs is a complete joke. He stunk back in the 90's when he was some what relevant.
I remember he got kod on HBO in his big coming out party against some little bomber from AC.
I always thought Briggs was an overhyped turd burgler.
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I'm almost surprised Briggs could even get licensed considering the brutal beating Klitschko put on him in Germany.

He ended up in intensive care. He didn't even want to fight again for 3 years.

No wonder Briggs only talks about fighting top fighters. I don't think he wants to endure that type of punishment again by facing a quality opponent.

And asdjfkl, when or if Briggs beats a ranking fighter or two, then he can talk seriously about stepping into the ring with a champion.

You can't hide behind the tired "Everyone is afraid of Briggs. No top boxer dares to fight him" bullcrap.

Shannon Briggs in an old man whose prime was probably 20 years ago when he was facing Foreman and Lewis.

He can still handle the endless string of moonlighting tomato cans. A top heavyweight would hurt him. Badly.
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He would have to beat one of these men to get ranked in the WBC top 15 to be eligible for a title shot. I don't see that happening. Maybe Fujimoto, probably not.

16.- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
17 .- Kyotaro Fujimoto (Japan) OPBF
18 .- Amir Mansour (US)
19 .- Trevor Bryan (US)
20 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
21 .- Travis Kauffman (US)
22 .- Eric Molina (US)
23 .- Robert Helenius (Finland)
24 .- Sergey Kuzmin (Russia)
25 .- Tomas Adamek (Poland)
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its about as obvious as it gets that he has little faith in his physical ability and therefore is trying to use his mouth alone to get fights

if he was confident as he projects he wouldve fought someone at least half decent to add sone credibility as a challenger
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marvelous marv wrote: 07 Feb 2018, 23:32 He would have to beat one of these men to get ranked in the WBC top 15 to be eligible for a title shot. I don't see that happening. Maybe Fujimoto, probably not.

16.- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
17 .- Kyotaro Fujimoto (Japan) OPBF
18 .- Amir Mansour (US)
19 .- Trevor Bryan (US)
20 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
21 .- Travis Kauffman (US)
22 .- Eric Molina (US)
23 .- Robert Helenius (Finland)
24 .- Sergey Kuzmin (Russia)
25 .- Tomas Adamek (Poland)
Fujimoto would definitely be his best bet for winning one of those fights though, but the rest would beat him surely, and frankly I'd favor Fujimoto to beat him too.
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how is this piece of rubbish briggs getting any attention? he absolutely sucked when he was relevant.
he's a juiced up clown. wilder KOs him in 1. Id love to see Tyson Fury thump Briggs.
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If this is true, thank you Wilder!

Imagine the build-up if these two were to actually fight?

It would be unbearable.
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jewboypgh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:28 how is this piece of rubbish briggs getting any attention? he absolutely sucked when he was relevant.
he's a juiced up clown. wilder KOs him in 1. Id love to see Tyson Fury thump Briggs.
Spot on.

He's just a mouth these days & that's it.
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Syntax Error wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:35 If this is true, thank you Wilder!

Imagine the build-up if these two were to actually fight?

It would be unbearable.
The build up would be better than the actual fight. The actual fight would be a 1st round KO for Wilder. Possibly in the first exchange of the bout.
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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:37
Syntax Error wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:35 If this is true, thank you Wilder!

Imagine the build-up if these two were to actually fight?

It would be unbearable.
The build up would be better than the actual fight. The actual fight would be a 1st round KO for Wilder. Possibly in the first exchange of the bout.
If Klitschko couldn't do it, Wilder sure can't do it lol
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asdfjkl wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:49
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:37
Syntax Error wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:35 If this is true, thank you Wilder!

Imagine the build-up if these two were to actually fight?

It would be unbearable.
The build up would be better than the actual fight. The actual fight would be a 1st round KO for Wilder. Possibly in the first exchange of the bout.
If Klitschko couldn't do it, Wilder sure can't do it lol
I believe there's a good chance Wilder is a bigger puncher than Vitali. Vitali tended to have to beat on guys for a while to get 'em outta there. Wilder has one punch power.

I ain't saying he's a better fighter than Vitali because I don't think he is, but he's a bigger puncher from what I can tell, and he'd undoubtedly knock out Briggs inside 3 rounds.

Briggs is another 8 years older, another 8 years slower, and another 8 years weaker since the fight with Vitali, and in the fight with Vitali he lost every single round, and afterward lost a large portion of his check to Emergency Room medical bills.

Even if he COULD stand up to Wilder's punches I don't think he'd even try to last the distance because he'd know how much damage he'd take to try. He'd be looking for a soft spot on the canvas inside 3 rounds. Guaranteed.
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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:54
asdfjkl wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:49
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 13:37

The build up would be better than the actual fight. The actual fight would be a 1st round KO for Wilder. Possibly in the first exchange of the bout.
If Klitschko couldn't do it, Wilder sure can't do it lol
I believe there's a good chance Wilder is a bigger puncher than Vitali. Vitali tended to have to beat on guys for a while to get 'em outta there. Wilder has one punch power.

I ain't saying he's a better fighter than Vitali because I don't think he is, but he's a bigger puncher from what I can tell, and he'd undoubtedly knock out Briggs inside 3 rounds.

Briggs is another 8 years older, another 8 years slower, and another 8 years weaker since the fight with Vitali, and in the fight with Vitali he lost every single round, and afterward lost a large portion of his check to Emergency Room medical bills.

Even if he COULD stand up to Wilder's punches I don't think he'd even try to last the distance because he'd know how much damage he'd take to try. He'd be looking for a soft spot on the canvas inside 3 rounds. Guaranteed.
Guy... Can you name any boxer at all Wilder fought against that hasn't been KOed by someone else? Who has Wilder ever faced? Ever?
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