Adam Kownacki vs. Iago Kiladze

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Aaltonen wrote: 21 Jan 2018, 17:03 Look at this:

Great fight!

Kownacki is strong like a tank, and offensive like hell....
ref was crazy to let that continue after the last count. the bodybulder was obvously done.
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Rob3_142 wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 20:24 I like Kownacki, he's an entertaining fighter. Throws a lot, is accurate, clearly has power and a chin (which many in this division lack).

He will be limited to 20-30 in the rankings though. He's clearly got poor conditioning (although his punch volume for round 1-6 is good), has awful feet (the way he just walks around the ring, and kind of slowly lunges in), and doesn't really have a game plan when he's in there, other than punch the sh*t out of the other guy.

It'll be interesting to see how he gets on. I will be watching with interest.
what makes you think he's got poor conditioning?
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Iago Kiladze

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I like that fat Pollock. He can really bang.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Iago Kiladze

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Great entertaining fight, blocking everything with your face though can't be good for your health!!!
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Iago Kiladze

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dagilechia wrote: 28 Jan 2018, 05:19
Rob3_142 wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 20:24 I like Kownacki, he's an entertaining fighter. Throws a lot, is accurate, clearly has power and a chin (which many in this division lack).

He will be limited to 20-30 in the rankings though. He's clearly got poor conditioning (although his punch volume for round 1-6 is good), has awful feet (the way he just walks around the ring, and kind of slowly lunges in), and doesn't really have a game plan when he's in there, other than punch the sh*t out of the other guy.

It'll be interesting to see how he gets on. I will be watching with interest.
what makes you think he's got poor conditioning?
His gut.
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I like this Pollock Kownacki. he can punch. if he fought dahn here in Pittsburgh,
id shell out some duckets to see him
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Iago Kiladze

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Rob3_142 wrote: 09 Feb 2018, 12:54
dagilechia wrote: 28 Jan 2018, 05:19
Rob3_142 wrote: 27 Jan 2018, 20:24 I like Kownacki, he's an entertaining fighter. Throws a lot, is accurate, clearly has power and a chin (which many in this division lack).

He will be limited to 20-30 in the rankings though. He's clearly got poor conditioning (although his punch volume for round 1-6 is good), has awful feet (the way he just walks around the ring, and kind of slowly lunges in), and doesn't really have a game plan when he's in there, other than punch the sh*t out of the other guy.

It'll be interesting to see how he gets on. I will be watching with interest.
what makes you think he's got poor conditioning?
His gut.

He used to be much heavier. You can't judge a book by its cover. His pal Big Baby isn't out to win a bodybuilding contest either. Just a year ago he fought at 268 and now he's 220. Kow isn't a real good name for a fat guy, though - but don't tell him I said that! I'm trying to think of successful heavyweights who looked fat - Tony Galento comes to mind but he was never champ, although he came close when he knocked down Joe Louis! Interesting side note: Galento fought the famous comedian Jackie Gleason in a back alley once. The fight lasted about one second.
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x2x wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:30
Rob3_142 wrote: 09 Feb 2018, 12:54
dagilechia wrote: 28 Jan 2018, 05:19

what makes you think he's got poor conditioning?
His gut.

He used to be much heavier. You can't judge a book by its cover. His pal Big Baby isn't out to win a bodybuilding contest either. Just a year ago he fought at 268 and now he's 220. Kow isn't a real good name for a fat guy, though - but don't tell him I said that! I'm trying to think of successful heavyweights who looked fat - Tony Galento comes to mind but he was never champ, although he came close when he knocked down Joe Louis! Interesting side note: Galento fought the famous comedian Jackie Gleason in a back alley once. The fight lasted about one second.
I don't dislike him or think he's a rubbish boxer, just that his conditioning plus other factors will restrict him to top 30 level. He might make top 15 if he picks his opponents wisely.
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Rob3_142 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 15:45
x2x wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:30
Rob3_142 wrote: 09 Feb 2018, 12:54

His gut.

He used to be much heavier. You can't judge a book by its cover. His pal Big Baby isn't out to win a bodybuilding contest either. Just a year ago he fought at 268 and now he's 220. Kow isn't a real good name for a fat guy, though - but don't tell him I said that! I'm trying to think of successful heavyweights who looked fat - Tony Galento comes to mind but he was never champ, although he came close when he knocked down Joe Louis! Interesting side note: Galento fought the famous comedian Jackie Gleason in a back alley once. The fight lasted about one second.
I don't dislike him or think he's a rubbish boxer, just that his conditioning plus other factors will restrict him to top 30 level. He might make top 15 if he picks his opponents wisely.
Rob, that's the thing about Kownacki, looks like a dough boy, but has fast hands/combinations and a good engine. So deceptive. First time I saw him, I thought - here we go, another dough boy- and I was so wrong.
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KiwiRider wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 16:02
Rob3_142 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 15:45
x2x wrote: 10 Feb 2018, 15:30


He used to be much heavier. You can't judge a book by its cover. His pal Big Baby isn't out to win a bodybuilding contest either. Just a year ago he fought at 268 and now he's 220. Kow isn't a real good name for a fat guy, though - but don't tell him I said that! I'm trying to think of successful heavyweights who looked fat - Tony Galento comes to mind but he was never champ, although he came close when he knocked down Joe Louis! Interesting side note: Galento fought the famous comedian Jackie Gleason in a back alley once. The fight lasted about one second.
I don't dislike him or think he's a rubbish boxer, just that his conditioning plus other factors will restrict him to top 30 level. He might make top 15 if he picks his opponents wisely.
Rob, that's the thing about Kownacki, looks like a dough boy, but has fast hands/combinations and a good engine. So deceptive. First time I saw him, I thought - here we go, another dough boy- and I was so wrong.
I reiterate my above comment. I do like him, but you cannot be a top heavyweight with the sole tactic to out punch the opposition. Rubbish feet and poor conditioning will be his undoing.

That being said, with the right improvements, he could become a contender.
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Rob3_142 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 16:06
KiwiRider wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 16:02
Rob3_142 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 15:45

I don't dislike him or think he's a rubbish boxer, just that his conditioning plus other factors will restrict him to top 30 level. He might make top 15 if he picks his opponents wisely.
Rob, that's the thing about Kownacki, looks like a dough boy, but has fast hands/combinations and a good engine. So deceptive. First time I saw him, I thought - here we go, another dough boy- and I was so wrong.
I reiterate my above comment. I do like him, but you cannot be a top heavyweight with the sole tactic to out punch the opposition. Rubbish feet and poor conditioning will be his undoing.

That being said, with the right improvements, he could become a contender.
For sure, I get he isn't going to lift a belt against any of the top guys at the moment, perhaps ever. Still entertaining to watch and there are a few good fights out there for him that I'd like to see. He would go well against all the top HW's around his own height. Ruiez, Miller, Bellew, and Parker after AJ is done with him- all of those guys would be a fan friendly watch against Adam.
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KiwiRider wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 16:14
Rob3_142 wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 16:06
KiwiRider wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 16:02
Rob, that's the thing about Kownacki, looks like a dough boy, but has fast hands/combinations and a good engine. So deceptive. First time I saw him, I thought - here we go, another dough boy- and I was so wrong.
I reiterate my above comment. I do like him, but you cannot be a top heavyweight with the sole tactic to out punch the opposition. Rubbish feet and poor conditioning will be his undoing.

That being said, with the right improvements, he could become a contender.
For sure, I get he isn't going to lift a belt against any of the top guys at the moment, perhaps ever. Still entertaining to watch and there are a few good fights out there for him that I'd like to see. He would go well against all the top HW's around his own height. Ruiez, Miller, Bellew, and Parker after AJ is done with him- all of those guys would be a fan friendly watch against Adam.
I tell you what, and I know you won't agree (or like to hear such a perspective!), but I would fancy Kownacki to put it on Parker, maybe even beat him! I think his style would really not work for Parker. It'd be a real test of chin for both, as don't fancy either defences!
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honeslty i think hes bizarrely overrated. not impressed at all. ffs did you guys see the problems he had with kiladze? how much he got hit and busted up. lol when your posting hospital selfies with that level of opponent your ceiling isnt that high.

the problem stems from ppl thinking szpilkas way more meaningful of a win then he is. god knows what happened to poor arturs brain when deontay took his head off.

seems like just another guy to overrate so ppl can accuse boxers they dislike of ducking him. and then when fight time comes 'oh, he was never any good' :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Kownacki throws a lot of punches and never looks tired, he's just the same in 1 or 6 round, of course i don't know what will happen if he fights 10 or 12 rounds but so far seems he has no conditioning problems, one of the factors that made Kiladze lose by KO was the fact that he was tiring more with every round while Kownacki was still fresh
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I don't think anyone is overrating Kownacki. He has an exciting style, and he's oddly fat. Like a more active, less talented Andy Ruiz Jr.

I'd like to see him fight Breazeale or Miller.
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Jennings is going to fight Akhror Muralimov this friday, according to the schedule on boxrec.
Miller KOed that guy in 3, I wonder what Jennings will do.
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dagilechia wrote: 11 Feb 2018, 20:09 Kownacki throws a lot of punches and never looks tired, he's just the same in 1 or 6 round, of course i don't know what will happen if he fights 10 or 12 rounds but so far seems he has no conditioning problems, one of the factors that made Kiladze lose by KO was the fact that he was tiring more with every round while Kownacki was still fresh


I believe he set a record for punches thrown per round for a heavyweight in his fight with Szpilka. He throws punches fast and hard and from all angles. I like him.
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btw michael hunter (former cruiser title challenger and us olmypian) recently fought kiladze and easily stopped him in 5. way less problems then kownacki had. total drubbing, no hospital stay for mike.

i bet hunter would beat kownacki too, probably slap big boy around
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I can´t stand these fat boxers.
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