Groves and his team will we licking thier lips, he's simply too small.rd350lc wrote: ↑11 Feb 2018, 18:50What a smug arse jnr really is !Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Dec 2017, 11:49 https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2017 ... ly-weight/
The Super Middleweight limit is 12st (168 lbs) I am NOT a Super Middleweight. But that will not stop me from dominating the division starting with George Groves on Feb 17th #NextGen #TeamEubank pic.twitter.com/6PncVgdyaE
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George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Alternatively, will he simply go into the ring at full strength and with no issues relating to draining weight in the previous few days. He will be as strong in the ring as he is every other day of any week when many fighters say they are stronger between fights when just strolling around without trying to cut weight. By definition, to cut weight, someone is eating in a negative energy balance.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑12 Feb 2018, 22:30Groves and his team will we licking thier lips, he's simply too small.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
tobyh5 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 02:26Alternatively, will he simply go into the ring at full strength and with no issues relating to draining weight in the previous few days. He will be as strong in the ring as he is every other day of any week when many fighters say they are stronger between fights when just strolling around without trying to cut weight. By definition, to cut weight, someone is eating in a negative energy balance.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑12 Feb 2018, 22:30Groves and his team will we licking thier lips, he's simply too small.
Sounds good in theory but we see massive differences on fight night when guys can boil themselves down to the weight limit and then rehydrate overnight. Chavez Jr for example was coming in at 180+ when he was fighting at 160. Looked like man vs boy against Lee.
If the weigh in was done on fight day at about 4pm, then it is a different story.
It's a big task for Eubank Jr to be fair. When you compare Groves is much bigger and arguably a harder fight. If GGG or Canelo stepped up to 168 to fight Groves, I don't think they would be heavy favourites. How would the bookies price those fights up?
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
You definitely do see fights where the non-drained 'naturally smaller' man's stamina is the deciding factor in his favourtobyh5 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 02:26Alternatively, will he simply go into the ring at full strength and with no issues relating to draining weight in the previous few days. He will be as strong in the ring as he is every other day of any week when many fighters say they are stronger between fights when just strolling around without trying to cut weight. By definition, to cut weight, someone is eating in a negative energy balance.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑12 Feb 2018, 22:30Groves and his team will we licking thier lips, he's simply too small.
I just hope this is one of those where size matters!
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Carl Froch was on TalkSport today and he's picked Eubank to beat him on points.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Well in fairness, he has sparred them both, so he would be well placed to have an input in this.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Yeah I've got a feeling me may hold a grudge, Fearon picked him too and he knows fcuk all as well.
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Froch was generous in his praise when Groves beat Chudinov.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Wasn’t he live on air? Would have been very hard for him not to be praising him.
Of course he may have picked this correctly.
I can’t wait for this. The speculation will soon be done with and I’m sure we will all be in for a treat either way.
Of course he may have picked this correctly.
I can’t wait for this. The speculation will soon be done with and I’m sure we will all be in for a treat either way.
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Groves points at 6/1 is an absolutely mad bet IMO. Can definitely see that happening
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
I cannot see the first scenario happening. Boxing clinic? He’s nowhere near good enough for that.Taansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
This is the fight which shows Eubanks level, I’m convinced he’s getting poleaxed.
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Fair enough. To me it's where we find out his level.lillywhite14 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:53I cannot see the first scenario happening. Boxing clinic? He’s nowhere near good enough for that.Taansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
This is the fight which shows Eubanks level, I’m convinced he’s getting poleaxed.
I was very impressed with the way he came back against BJS but that could have been down to Saunders previous regime.
I also think he has a stellar set of whiskers.......
But I just don't know.
Questions should be answered one way or the other this weekend.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lostTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Froch tipped Abraham to beat Groves and in the same sentence tipped Paul Smith to beat Abraham.
I know its been limited opposition, but I feel Eubank is filling into the weight nicely and is starting to demonstrate power that he has not shown at Middleweight.
I know its been limited opposition, but I feel Eubank is filling into the weight nicely and is starting to demonstrate power that he has not shown at Middleweight.
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
danconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:03I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lostTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Did you only read one line from my post & then write your emotional response based on that linedanconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:03I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lostTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
I know what you are saying, but I don't think you can dismiss it as impossible given the power Eubank showed in his last fight. I agree with his defensive frailities (although his chin looks excellent) but then Groves has also shown a lack of discipline. I think he showed that in his last fight - I agree with Eubank that there was a bit of relief when Groves put Cox away - I think Cox had hurt him.... and Cox is a small Middleweight, let alone Super Middleweight.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:03I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lostTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Yeah don't worry lol I'm not battering you personally... but the build up in general has been ridiculous. Never seen so much hype so someone who's only really fought busmenTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:08Did you only read one line from my post & then write your emotional response based on that linedanconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:03I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lostTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t![]()
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
It does now but that's the thing... who's actually hit him?stujones wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:08I know what you are saying, but I don't think you can dismiss it as impossible given the power Eubank showed in his last fight. I agree with his defensive frailities (although his chin looks excellent) but then Groves has also shown a lack of discipline. I think he showed that in his last fight - I agree with Eubank that there was a bit of relief when Groves put Cox away - I think Cox had hurt him.... and Cox is a small Middleweight, let alone Super Middleweight.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:03I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lostTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 11:18 I still have no idea as to the outcome of this fight.
If Jnr overwhelmed Groves early or put on a boxing clinic I wouldn't be surprised.
If Groves starched Jnr with one punch or put on a beatdown I wouldn't be surprised.
And I wouldn't be surprised if we can't separate them after 12 rounds.
It's tough (for me) because Eubank is still an unknown quantity at this level while Groves can be fragile or tough depending on any given night.
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
I should hope not seeing as I genuinely don't have a strong opinion either way.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:22Yeah don't worry lol I'm not battering you personally... but the build up in general has been ridiculous. Never seen so much hype so someone who's only really fought busmenTaansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:08Did you only read one line from my post & then write your emotional response based on that linedanconnollyeire wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:03
I swear Eubank is the most overrated fighter of all time. Who has he beat? His best opponent was an unfit/un-bothered Saunders ages ago and he still lost
His not even that skilled. He throws wide shots, his footwork and positioning is amatuer and his head movement is hardly Mayweather
Couple that with being small as fvck for a super middle
Where on earth are people getting this 'he'll blow Groves away' crap from?
How is he even favourite?
he's talented and defo top 15 in the world but this over egging is ridiculous. Groves beat better opponents in his first 15 fights than Eubank has now, maybe excluding Abraham, who is old as sh1t![]()
Eubank, to me, is an unknown quantity.
I can understand why people think he has little chance but I am prepared to be surprised either way.
Which I love
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Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
among the various reasons that have been given by various people for a Eubank win, its difficult to pick which is the more troubling assumption- that Eubank has punching power, that he is a skillful boxer (neither of which has he remotely proven at any kind of level), that he must have a great chin because his dad did (ask Marvis Frazier how that one goes), that he has this iron self-belief (that has never had to prove itself against serious competition)... I'm just
at all the assumptions that have been made.
and it gets better, as from where I am sitting, even his supposed ace in the hole card, his real tangible supposed advantage is that he seems to have a good engine. and that has been proven largely by posting training montages on Instagram and throwing 50 punch combinations against people who are basically unable for various reasons to hit him back.
I mean ,this incredible engine (woooh he's such a beast you should see his training montages on Insta), we're talking about, has been into the 12th round 3 whole times
and it gets better, as from where I am sitting, even his supposed ace in the hole card, his real tangible supposed advantage is that he seems to have a good engine. and that has been proven largely by posting training montages on Instagram and throwing 50 punch combinations against people who are basically unable for various reasons to hit him back.
I mean ,this incredible engine (woooh he's such a beast you should see his training montages on Insta), we're talking about, has been into the 12th round 3 whole times
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
Did someone on here actually say thatCounter-puncher wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 12:33that he must have a great chin because his dad did (ask Marvis Frazier how that one goes),
Re: George Groves vs. Chris Eubank Jr - 17 February 2018
If Eubank wins where does Groves go next?
