Tyson Fury is no more a fat guy.

[ValMar]

I like this Fury. He schooled Klitchko.
He knows his way around the ring.
I think he smacks Joshua and Wilder all over the place

I don't know about that but you can certainly imagine that scenario if Tyson was in the shape he was when he beat Klitschko, and there aren't too many people you could say that about. That's what makes him so interesting.

Wlad looked awful that night but that wasn't a coincidence. It was a perfect storm. Wlad, unbeaten in so long, was probably a little jaded and complacent, certainly not in the mental and physical shape he was for Joshua. Then by his own admission Wlad is not a natural boxer, he is largely manufactured. He was taught how to make the most of his height, reach and mobility, using his excellent jab, punching power, and swaying back out of range of shorter men when defending.

These advantages were totally ineffectual against a man 3" taller, with longer reach, and even more mobility, allied to natural awkwardness and unpredictability. Klitschko didn't know to cope wth him, couldn't set himself to throw punches against such an elusive target, and frequently got punished when he did. That's why Wlad threw so few punches and looked so demoralized. I think Klitschko on his best night beats Joshua (as of now), totally picks apart and destroys Wilder, but he'd always have trouble with (that) Fury.

Many people regard him as an arsehole and an embarrassment and I totally get that, but a Fury at the top of his game is a force to be reckoned with, and my favourite division can use more like that not fewer. Getting back to what he was is a very big ask, but he could hardly have made a better start so I remain hopeful.

Last thing - Valmar. I think your percentages are exactly how I see, it based on Tyson F at his best.

Candyslim, another excellent post !

[candyslim]

Thanks Valmar. Kind of you to say so.

[ValMar]

Thanks Valmar. Kind of you to say so.

[siablo14]

Thanks Valmar. Kind of you to say so.

What was Fury's purse for the Wlad fight because he seems quite comfortable where he is at?

[candyslim]

I had to google it but there was $6 -8m and £4m reported. He reportedly walked away from £10m for the rematch and his net worth in the region of $20m

I don't doubt he is serious about coming back and I don't think it's just about the money. A fit fury was well capable of beating Klitscho again and he'd have earned £10m just for showing up for round one, so I don't ever doubt the veracity of his depression.

I'm not clear what you were getting at.

[ValMar]

I had to google it but there was $6 -8m and £4m reported. He reportedly walked away from £10m for the rematch and his net worth in the region of $20m

I don't doubt he is serious about coming back and I don't think it's just about the money. A fit fury was well capable of beating Klitscho again and he'd have earned £10m just for showing up for round one, so I don't ever doubt the veracity of his depression.

I'm not clear what you were getting at.

Big, big money...........His children wil not have to do anything in their lives.........

[Badhusker]

Like I have said before, Tyson Fury is inactive or retired. He has no fights scheduled, and has not fought since the end of 2015. Not worth talking about, unless you want to go to fighters of the past section.

[candyslim]

I wouldn't write him off just yet. He is no gym-rat but he's lost a lot of weight. If he's training it means he is motivated. If he's motivated it means he's planning to get back in the ring and soon.

[tennessee]

That championship mountain is a hard one to climb, especially after a lazy layoff. He should look for payday quickly before he loses to a journeyman.

[ValMar]

I can not understand some posters, here, on this forum. We have to admit (like him or not) that the most interesting division in boxing (HW) is not the same without Tyson Fury. I had been writting about this topic more than once, simply I like to see many competitve fights at HW, but there are a lot of haters here, and they don't want to see Fury, Ortiz and Povetkin (PED ?) Wilder (duck ?) Haye (always injured, coward ?)........And what should we follow ? Joshua vs. Parker 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ?

[jamesmcdonnell]

I think Tyson will be back, whether he will ever have the hunger to become top dog again in another matter. We will have to wait and see, but he is clearly getting himself back into decent shape and intends to get back into contention.

There's not a lot out there to beat right now, and he definitely has some physical assets on his side.,

[candyslim]

Question my sanity if you like but I reckon a 300 pound out of shape Fury would still beat most of the guys outside the top ten and maybe one or two inside.

Some guys are just naturally athletic however much blubber they're carrying. Jarrell Miller looks like he could handily drop 30lbs maybe more, but I don't think his stamina is lacking and neither is his movement.

[Badhusker]

Question my sanity if you like but I reckon a 300 pound out of shape Fury would still beat most of the guys outside the top ten and maybe one or two inside.

Some guys are just naturally athletic however much blubber they're carrying. Jarrell Miller looks like he could handily drop 30lbs maybe more, but I don't think his stamina is lacking and neither is his movement.

Remember that the weight is only part of his problem.

[Wales]

How many fighters come back as good or better after a 3 year break. To beat the ever improving AJ I think Fury would need to be as good as ever if not better:

[candyslim]

Question my sanity if you like but I reckon a 300 pound out of shape Fury would still beat most of the guys outside the top ten and maybe one or two inside.

Some guys are just naturally athletic however much blubber they're carrying. Jarrell Miller looks like he could handily drop 30lbs maybe more, but I don't think his stamina is lacking and neither is his movement.

Remember that the weight is only part of his problem.

True - that does assume he's got his head on straight.

How many fighters come back as good or better after a 3 year break. To beat the ever improving AJ I think Fury would need to be as good as ever if not better:

I think it's a bigger problem for some than others. If you're the kind of guy that works out all the time, is always in shape, the "my body is a temple" type, then three years away from that regime is likely to be a killer. We know Tyson isn't that type. He trains to get in shape to fight, but I imagine he is used to shorter periods of comparative self-indulgence (obviously nothing like on the same scale) but I'd hazard a guess he might come back a lot closer to what he was than we might assume. Time will tell.

If you list the fighters that could potentially beat Joshua now or in the near future (i.e. those we already know about) then Tyson Fury is definitely a prominent one of those on a not very long list of names.

[Wales]

It is a bigger problem for some than others. But regardless of all that, how many fighters have come back better after 3 years out.

[HomicideHenry]

Considering the size of Fury and his speed and unusual tactics (leaning away rather than slipping shots) it'll play hell with a guy like Joshua who only fights in a straight line, plodding forward. It's one thing to fight someone undersized or older or of similar style, but it's a whole other ballgame fighting a man who is bigger, faster, trickier all the way around. When you got a guy nearly seven feet tall, leaning away, he's nearly eight feet away from you at all times, so how can you exactly expose that when you just March forward and stand upright with your chin in the air?

[SenorPipino]

Fury is now assuring everyone that he will soon announce a "massive massive deal" and will reveal what it is any day now.

I assume that this massive massive deal is boxing related so maybe he'll give us the name of his comeback opponent/victim.

Apparently Fury's not prepared to release details immediately but like his countryman, Amir Khan, he prefers to make an announcement that he's planning an announcement.

Must be a British thing.

Hopefully the champ's comeback opponent isn't also Phil Lo Greco.

[jamamb]

fury is not almost 7'0, in reality hes about as tall as wilder, maybe half inch taller

[SenorPipino]

I've seen Fury listed as anywhere between 6'7" and 6'9".

Fury himself claims that he's 6'9". Judging by those photos of him going jaw to jaw with Wilder, it's obvious that he's fibbing.

Even if shoe height plays a role in those photos, I'd agree that Fury is no more than a shade taller than 6'7" Wilder.

[ValMar]

I've seen Fury listed as anywhere between 6'7" and 6'9".

Fury himself claims that he's 6'9". Judging by those photos of him going jaw to jaw with Wilder, it's obvious that he's fibbing.

Even if shoe height plays a role in those photos, I'd agree that Fury is no more than a shade taller than 6'7" Wilder.

There are a lot of boxers claiming that they are higher then they really are. For example : Haye, Povetkin, Gassiev.
Tyson Fury is between 6'7" and 6'7,5". You may simply compare him to Wlad (6'6"), it is obvious..............