Heavyweights - March 2018. Does anyone see upsets?

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Wilder v Ortiz
Whyte v Browne
Povetkin v Price
Joshua v Parker

Great month for HW fights (fingers cross they happen). Does anyone see a raft of upsets?

Not sure exactly why, but I’ve got a feeling we will see some upsets! Apart from Povetkin v Price, I can see Ortiz, Browne and possibly Parker pulling off big upsets.

It’s the HWs, so one punch can change anything. I really fancy Ortiz to KO Wilder and Browne to KO Whyte. The reason for the AJ doubt is mainly due to his weight. If he comes in at 18st or over, I’ll put some £ on Parker.
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Browne beating Whyte wouldn't be an upset.

Yeh in the case where Whyte is the younger and supposedly hungrier man.. I think Parker beating Joshua is an upset.. Ortiz beating Wilder wouldn't BUT it's an upset that we likely don't get AJ-Wilder quicker
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 13:07 Browne beating Whyte wouldn't be an upset.

Yeh in the case where Whyte is the younger and supposedly hungrier man.. I think Parker beating Joshua is an upset.. Ortiz beating Wilder wouldn't BUT it's an upset that we likely don't get AJ-Wilder quicker
Browne is the underdog and the markets replicate that. I see him as an underdog. Ortiz is also the underdog and would be an upset if he starched Wilder.
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I don't think the result in the Whyte vs Browne fight is an upset either way, and in the other 3 fights. No I don't expect an upset.

Ortiz is the most likely to get the upset win, but I don't expect he will.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 13:07 Browne beating Whyte wouldn't be an upset.

Yeh in the case where Whyte is the younger and supposedly hungrier man.. I think Parker beating Joshua is an upset.. Ortiz beating Wilder wouldn't BUT it's an upset that we likely don't get AJ-Wilder quicker
It would certainly be an upset to oddsmakers, who now list Whyte as a solid 4-1 favorite to hand Browne his first defeat.

As for the other fights, the only "upset" will be those fans who misguidedly place their money and faith on Parker and Ortiz.

Parker simply doesn't have the punch or sufficient skills to dethrone Joshua. Look for him to be strictly on the defensive all night. As long as that night lasts.

Joshua is about a 10-1 favorite.

And Ortiz? He's simply meeting up with a younger, quicker more athletic fighter in Wilder. And a fighter who can crack just as hard, and probably harder than the Cuban.

Expect Wilder to toy with Ortiz after some cautious early rounds.

Wilder is a 3-1 favorite.

And Povetkin-Price? It will end as soon as Price takes a whack on the chin. No chin means no chance to win.

A mismatch, Povetkin is a 20-1 choice.
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Loki wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 12:29 Wilder v Ortiz
Whyte v Browne
Povetkin v Price
Joshua v Parker

Great month for HW fights (fingers cross they happen). Does anyone see a raft of upsets?

Not sure exactly why, but I’ve got a feeling we will see some upsets! Apart from Povetkin v Price, I can see Ortiz, Browne and possibly Parker pulling off big upsets.

It’s the HWs, so one punch can change anything. I really fancy Ortiz to KO Wilder and Browne to KO Whyte. The reason for the AJ doubt is mainly due to his weight. If he comes in at 18st or over, I’ll put some £ on Parker.
Wilder-Ortiz and Whyte-Browne are 50/50, for me............
Povetkin-Price-99/01...........
Joshua-Parker-90/10
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ValMar wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 13:22
Loki wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 12:29 Wilder v Ortiz
Whyte v Browne
Povetkin v Price
Joshua v Parker

Great month for HW fights (fingers cross they happen). Does anyone see a raft of upsets?

Not sure exactly why, but I’ve got a feeling we will see some upsets! Apart from Povetkin v Price, I can see Ortiz, Browne and possibly Parker pulling off big upsets.

It’s the HWs, so one punch can change anything. I really fancy Ortiz to KO Wilder and Browne to KO Whyte. The reason for the AJ doubt is mainly due to his weight. If he comes in at 18st or over, I’ll put some £ on Parker.
Wilder-Ortiz and Whyte-Browne are 50/50, for me............
Povetkin-Price-99/01...........
Joshua-Parker-90/10

Agree with the last two, but I'd have Wilder a 3-1 favourite. Ortiz has looked woeful recently. I imagine he'll give Wilder some rounds. I'd be betting on a late stoppage for Wilder.
Browne Whyte is the hardest to call here. I had Chisora beating Whyte, and other than that result - and a momentary Joshua wobble, he hasn't really proven himself. Not that Browne has done a great deal more, discounting his win on the gear. I'd favour Whyte for being the younger and fresher of the two.
Though Wilder, Joshua, Ortiz, Parker and Povetkin would wallop both of these two anyway.
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Povitkin Price and Parker Joshua are the only possible upsets.
I give Wilder 70/30 to beat Ortiz and Browne Whyte is a pick 'em fight and probably (hopefully) a good one to watch as well.
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KiwiRider wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 14:19 Povitkin Price and Parker Joshua are the only possible upsets.
I give Wilder 70/30 to beat Ortiz and Browne Whyte is a pick 'em fight and probably (hopefully) a good one to watch as well.

You must be the last man on earth who believes that Price has a chance to beat Povetkin. Most wonder whether the Brit can hear the bell for the 3rd round.

And even Parker upending Joshua is pretty farfetched. Maybe if Joshua scaled 300 lbs., but anything less and he wins in a breeze.

The only thing Parker has going for him is a chin. Remember this is a guy who conceivably lost 3 of his last 6 fights.
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KiwiRider wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 14:19 Povitkin Price and Parker Joshua are the only possible upsets.
I give Wilder 70/30 to beat Ortiz and Browne Whyte is a pick 'em fight and probably (hopefully) a good one to watch as well.
You think Price has a better chance at beating Povetkin than Ortiz has of beating Wilder? Pretty shocking if so. I wouldn't give Price a chance against hardly any ranked Heavyweight at this point. He's mentally shot.
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SenorPipino wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 14:52
KiwiRider wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 14:19 Povitkin Price and Parker Joshua are the only possible upsets.
I give Wilder 70/30 to beat Ortiz and Browne Whyte is a pick 'em fight and probably (hopefully) a good one to watch as well.

You must be the last man on earth who believes that Price has a chance to beat Povetkin. Most wonder whether the Brit can hear the bell for the 3rd round.

And even Parker upending Joshua is pretty farfetched. Maybe if Joshua scaled 300 lbs., but anything less and he wins in a breeze.

The only thing Parker has going for him is a chin. Remember this is a guy who conceivably lost 3 of his last 6 fights.
I might have explained that badly.
I agree with you.
What I ment was; if Price or Parker won, that is the only upsets I can see on the list.
HW is full of upsets, one punch and all that, but logic prevails.
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Here are my predications:

Ortiz to KO Wilder (I just think Deontay will be found out and Ortiz will be able to take his shots)

Browne to KO Whyte. Either this or Whyte outboxes him.

Povetkin to ice Price.

AJ to KO Parker. If AJ comes in at 18 or more, I do fancy Parker to be really competitive.
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Wilder v Ortiz - Wilder impressed me last time out but he can be outboxed easily enough......until BOOM. No idea how good, or old, Ortiz is :maybe:

Whyte v Browne - I have this 55-45 in favour of Whyte. Neither fighter spectacular but both capable of grinding out a win.

Povetkin v Price - I would LOVE IT if Price got Povotkin out of their in One but I can't see him going past 3 rounds.

Joshua v Parker - I think Parker surprises a few people with his performance but loses a decision 8-4 (or 7-5)
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Taansend wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 19:26 Wilder v Ortiz - Wilder impressed me last time out but he can be outboxed easily enough......until BOOM. No idea how good, or old, Ortiz is :maybe:

Whyte v Browne - I have this 55-45 in favour of Whyte. Neither fighter spectacular but both capable of grinding out a win.

Povetkin v Price - I would LOVE IT if Price got Povotkin out of their in One but I can't see him going past 3 rounds.

Joshua v Parker - I think Parker surprises a few people with his performance but loses a decision 8-4 (or 7-5)
Would you explain, please. Do you expect Parker's loss (8-4/7-5) by robbery ?
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Maybe Wilder could make an upset with a lot of help from the ref, or Margaret badgirl randomly stopping the match, claiming something was wrong with Ortiz.
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gilgamesh wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 15:15
KiwiRider wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 14:19 Povitkin Price and Parker Joshua are the only possible upsets.
I give Wilder 70/30 to beat Ortiz and Browne Whyte is a pick 'em fight and probably (hopefully) a good one to watch as well.
You think Price has a better chance at beating Povetkin than Ortiz has of beating Wilder? Pretty shocking if so. I wouldn't give Price a chance against hardly any ranked Heavyweight at this point. He's mentally shot.
David Price is a super heavyweight. Alexander Povetkin is a blown up light heavyweight. So I wouldn't question the high PROBABILITY of David Price winning and in all truthfulness, he should be the massive favorite.
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Luis Fernando12 wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 16:45
gilgamesh wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 15:15
KiwiRider wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 14:19 Povitkin Price and Parker Joshua are the only possible upsets.
I give Wilder 70/30 to beat Ortiz and Browne Whyte is a pick 'em fight and probably (hopefully) a good one to watch as well.
You think Price has a better chance at beating Povetkin than Ortiz has of beating Wilder? Pretty shocking if so. I wouldn't give Price a chance against hardly any ranked Heavyweight at this point. He's mentally shot.
David Price is a super heavyweight. Alexander Povetkin is a blown up light heavyweight. So I wouldn't question the high PROBABILITY of David Price winning and in all truthfulness, he should be the massive favorite.
Price has NO CHANCE against Povetkin. None. He's mentally shot and will crumble the first time he eats a solid shot.

I can only assume you're a jokester saying that Price should be the favorite. I don't think Price would even be favored to beat Shannon Briggs at this point.
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ValMar wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 16:01
Taansend wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 19:26 Wilder v Ortiz - Wilder impressed me last time out but he can be outboxed easily enough......until BOOM. No idea how good, or old, Ortiz is :maybe:

Whyte v Browne - I have this 55-45 in favour of Whyte. Neither fighter spectacular but both capable of grinding out a win.

Povetkin v Price - I would LOVE IT if Price got Povotkin out of their in One but I can't see him going past 3 rounds.

Joshua v Parker - I think Parker surprises a few people with his performance but loses a decision 8-4 (or 7-5)
Would you explain, please. Do you expect Parker's loss (8-4/7-5) by robbery ?
No

I think he'll lose a close fight. It seems most thinks he gets blown out easily.
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gilgamesh wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 16:50
Luis Fernando12 wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 16:45
gilgamesh wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 15:15

You think Price has a better chance at beating Povetkin than Ortiz has of beating Wilder? Pretty shocking if so. I wouldn't give Price a chance against hardly any ranked Heavyweight at this point. He's mentally shot.
David Price is a super heavyweight. Alexander Povetkin is a blown up light heavyweight. So I wouldn't question the high PROBABILITY of David Price winning and in all truthfulness, he should be the massive favorite.
Price has NO CHANCE against Povetkin. None. He's mentally shot and will crumble the first time he eats a solid shot.

I can only assume you're a jokester saying that Price should be the favorite. I don't think Price would even be favored to beat Shannon Briggs at this point.
A super heavyweight ALWAYS has a chance against a blown up light heavyweight like Alexander Povetkin. The size difference is laughably humongous between the two. They don't even belong in the same weight division. David Price or Anthony Joshua should surely squash Alexander povetkin like a small bug / insect?
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jamamb wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 17:17 troll lolo lo lo
Yeah. That's the only explanation. Even a newcomer to the sport could easily read and see David's history and why nobody is giving him a shot. This guy is already on thin ice.
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Taansend wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 16:51
ValMar wrote: 26 Feb 2018, 16:01
Taansend wrote: 25 Feb 2018, 19:26 Wilder v Ortiz - Wilder impressed me last time out but he can be outboxed easily enough......until BOOM. No idea how good, or old, Ortiz is :maybe:

Whyte v Browne - I have this 55-45 in favour of Whyte. Neither fighter spectacular but both capable of grinding out a win.

Povetkin v Price - I would LOVE IT if Price got Povotkin out of their in One but I can't see him going past 3 rounds.

Joshua v Parker - I think Parker surprises a few people with his performance but loses a decision 8-4 (or 7-5)
Would you explain, please. Do you expect Parker's loss (8-4/7-5) by robbery ?
No

I think he'll lose a close fight. It seems most thinks he gets blown out easily.
We will see soon......................
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Price might land a lucky big right somewhere. Might as well gamble. A win over povetkin can earn him one last big check. Povetkin is way past his prime anyways.

If odds were decent enough, I'd put money on parker for an upset stoppage, sometime around round 6-9. Otherwise its prob a Joshua UD imo.

Ortiz has no chance in my opinion. He was brought in there to lose. I wouldnt be surprised if he takes a dive. For him its about maximizing his income at this stage of his career. Plus Haymon has way too much to lose by taking a chance on wilder losing with a potential joshua matchup.
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povetkin way past his prime still had enough to easily shutout a guy who stopped price one fight before. price also looked awful and terrified last fight vs a 4-12 (1) opponent. i cant see price winning beyond what seems like an unlikely hail mary considering price hasnt won any of the times he fought above british level.

browne vs whyte it wouldnt shock me if browne won but i think whyte has more in the tank and has more to him.

wilder will flatten ortiz and aj will do the same to parker. ortiz is more of a threat then parker though. a better, harder hitting fighter and the better win of the two imo even with his age.
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Priceys chin is pound for pound one of the worst in boxing . It really is that bad.
In the run up to Thompson rematch a novice heavyweight from near me , Andy Jones, went into his camp for sparring. Jones had to leave the camp after flooring Price twice in the sparring sessions.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/667072

Couple that with the fact Price has recently been coming into fights weighing around 275lbs (19st 9) , which is 30+ lbs heavier than he used to weigh in, it’s hard to see him doing much more than getting paid and lasting as long as he can .
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