Odd Boxing Things

[Taansend]

It's time for another thread highlighting odd little things in boxing.

Quirks in records.

Weird names.

Bizarre locations.

I'll start off.......

90's Barnsley Heavyweight, Neil Kirkwood, won every fight by KO & lost every fight by KO EXCEPT for when he fought Chesterfield boxer Mark Krence

Who himself got kayod in all eight of his losses except when he fought Olympic Gold Medalist, Audley Harrison, losing the 6 round decision.

[tobyh5]

Not sure if it fits in with the theme but I like little oddities or things that you find in records that are probably unknown by many and get a real "bloody hell, I never knew that!" reaction, eg that Barry McGuigan charged to his world title with a record of 26-1 with 23KO's but there was one trip up obviously, someone inflicted a defeat and the guy who did it had a 3-4 record at the time and ended with a 14-21 ledger, the name of the man of course being Peter Eubank, brother of Chris Snr.

[bennie]

McGuigan was robbed against Eubank.

[asdfjkl]

Current heavyweight rank 15 of the WBO:

Ebenezer Tetteh

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/611196

Never fought any heavyweight in his entire life at all, never been active as a heavyweight boxer himself either, before 2017 he wasn't even a cruiserweight, heaviest opponent ever, 190 pounds. Current boxrec rank 217, he's not even the highest ranked guy of his own country.

[bennie]

John H. Stracey had a pub named after him in the wake of his glorious win over Jose Napoles in 1975 (The John H. Stracey in Norfolk).

[littlepug]

Not sure if it fits in with the theme but I like little oddities or things that you find in records that are probably unknown by many and get a real "bloody hell, I never knew that!" reaction, eg that Barry McGuigan charged to his world title with a record of 26-1 with 23KO's but there was one trip up obviously, someone inflicted a defeat and the guy who did it had a 3-4 record at the time and ended with a 14-21 ledger, the name of the man of course being Peter Eubank, brother of Chris Snr.

he also holds a win over Joe Frazier jnr, son of......

[littlepug]

Mentioned this before on another thread but Bill Sliney lost twice to Reg Kray and beat Ron Kray once, also handed first pro defeat to Ernie Fossey

[Taansend]

Funny I was going to mention Fidel Castro Smith being ranked in the top ten TWICE at the same time by a governing body (also ranked under his earlier boxing name Slugger O'Toole) but some prick beat me to it four years ago

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=182168

[Stuarty]

Current heavyweight rank 15 of the WBO:

Ebenezer Tetteh

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/611196

Never fought any heavyweight in his entire life at all, never been active as a heavyweight boxer himself either, before 2017 he wasn't even a cruiserweight, heaviest opponent ever, 190 pounds. Current boxrec rank 217, he's not even the highest ranked guy of his own country.

Anybody's got any Vera's? Lovely!!!!

[dirk2686]

There are only five steps via common opponents to link a fighter who fought at the lowest professional weight in the sport and the heaviest heavyweight champion of all time.

Valuev - Ruiz - Jones - Hopkins - De La Hoya - Pacquiao.

[Taansend]

There are only five steps via common opponents to link a fighter who fought at the lowest professional weight in the sport and the heaviest heavyweight champion of all time.

Valuev - Ruiz - Jones - Hopkins - De La Hoya - Pacquiao.

Brilliant

[Taansend]

There are only five steps via common opponents to link a fighter who fought at the lowest professional weight in the sport and the heaviest heavyweight champion of all time.

Valuev - Ruiz - Jones - Hopkins - De La Hoya - Pacquiao.

Brilliant

106 pounds to 348 pounds.

The difference in weight is Lennox Lewis

[jamamb]

james tennysons last 5 opponents each had 14 wins: http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/618481


arnoldo solano 14-14 (very fitting)

darren traynor 14-1

ryan doyle 14-1

declan geraghty 14-1

rafael castillo 14-26-3

[Taansend]

james tennysons last 5 opponents each had 14 wins: http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/618481


arnoldo solano 14-14 (very fitting)

darren traynor 14-1

ryan doyle 14-1

declan geraghty 14-1

rafael castillo 14-26-3

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http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/142965
Jim Williams is currently ahead of Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank on the Boxrec all time P4P rankings, his record is 17-22-3

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I've been recently reading about James Robertson Couper.

Couper was not a big man, listed as 5'6" and 144Ibs, but I think he was probably Scotland's greatest heavyweight.

He seems to have gotten into boxing at a relatively old age, . winning the South African Heavyweight title aged 30. I can't find anything on the fight where he won it beyond later references. His opponent, the champion, Coverwell known as The Ladies' Pet outweighed Couper by nearly 100Ibs, Despite this Couper KOed him supposodly in a couple minutes.

Couper is best known for his fight with Woolf Bendoff. It's listed as the highest purse fought for in many old record books, the actual amount was $4,500, but at some point the boks start saying it was for $22,500. There's seems to have been a pretty thriving boxing scene in South Africa around this time . Woolf Bendoff is a bit enigmatic, few known wins, but some good performances against good fighters of the day, reasonably highly regarded etc. Couper by this point had actually retired from boxing and was 35, initially he was unwilling to come out of retirement.There are some accounts of this fight, but after the 26th round Bendoff throw in the towel.

By all accounts, he was a gentlemen, who in later life was covered sports for newspapers and even wrote a book. He sadly commited suicide at 43, he had some financial issues, but it mostly seems to be because of health issues including insomnia.

An interesting man and worth looking into if you have the time.

[keirw]

I once stumbled across a card in Bulgaria in which not a single of the twelve fighters had a winning record.

Started a thread about it too (it was a slow day at work)
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... t=Bulgaria

[Taansend]

I've been recently reading about James Robertson Couper.

Couper was not a big man, listed as 5'6" and 144Ibs, but I think he was probably Scotland's greatest heavyweight.

He seems to have gotten into boxing at a relatively old age, . winning the South African Heavyweight title aged 30. I can't find anything on the fight where he won it beyond later references. His opponent, the champion, Coverwell known as The Ladies' Pet outweighed Couper by nearly 100Ibs, Despite this Couper KOed him supposodly in a couple minutes.

Couper is best known for his fight with Woolf Bendoff. It's listed as the highest purse fought for in many old record books, the actual amount was $4,500, but at some point the boks start saying it was for $22,500. There's seems to have been a pretty thriving boxing scene in South Africa around this time . Woolf Bendoff is a bit enigmatic, few known wins, but some good performances against good fighters of the day, reasonably highly regarded etc. Couper by this point had actually retired from boxing and was 35, initially he was unwilling to come out of retirement.There are some accounts of this fight, but after the 26th round Bendoff throw in the towel.

By all accounts, he was a gentlemen, who in later life was covered sports for newspapers and even wrote a book. He sadly commited suicide at 43, he had some financial issues, but it mostly seems to be because of health issues including insomnia.

An interesting man and worth looking into if you have the time.

Love it. Thanks.

[Taansend]

There's a major heavyweight bout in Germany on March 24th.

Ex title challenger, Michael Grant 48-7, who hasn't won a bout since 2011 goes up against fellow American & fellow title challenger Kevin Johnson 32-9-1, who is on a hot streak having won 3 of his last 9

They have a combined age of 83.

This mega event is commissioned by the Austrian Boxing Federation

[danconnollyeire]

There's a major heavyweight bout in Germany on March 24th.

Ex title challenger, Michael Grant 48-7, who hasn't won a bout since 2011 goes up against fellow American & fellow title challenger Kevin Johnson 32-9-1, who is on a hot streak having won 3 of his last 9

They have a combined age of 83.

This mega event is commissioned by the Austrian Boxing Federation

Fvck, those Lennox uppercuts fvcked up his thinking for life

[BitPlayer]

There's a major heavyweight bout in Germany on March 24th.

Ex title challenger, Michael Grant 48-7, who hasn't won a bout since 2011 goes up against fellow American & fellow title challenger Kevin Johnson 32-9-1, who is on a hot streak having won 3 of his last 9

They have a combined age of 83.

This mega event is commissioned by the Austrian Boxing Federation

I actually don't know who'll win

In 1897 a 66 Jem Mace fought a 49 Mike Donovan (though Mace said he was really older)

They had a few of them, that was the last. I read a report of one and it was a fairly light spar, the audience got to pick the winner and they all shouted draw.


In 1890 aged 58 Mace also fought a 28 year old Charlie Mitchell, as in the one who had floored Sullivan and fought him to a draw in a bareknuckle match. From the start Mitchell battered Mace and dropped him in round 1, but Mace did better in round 2 and even better in round 3, even dropping Mitchell. But by round 4 Mace was exhausted and it was stopped. Still up against a top P4P fighter 30 years younger, he did really well.

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http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/12629

Jesus Pimentel 77 win 7 losses.

[T.M.K]

Howzabout:

Vitali Klitschko lost to Chris Byrd
Chris Byrd lost to Wladimir Klitschko (V's brother)
Wladimir Klitschko lost to Lamon Brewster (Byrd's cousin)

Byrd's Dad (Brewster's Uncle) once lost to Muhammed Ali's brother......

Byrd's Brother lost to RJJ Jr, whose Dad fought Marvin Hagler, who beat Roberto Duran, who lost to Hagler's half-brother Robbie Sims, who lost to Vinny Pazienza, who also lost to RJJ.

[Taansend]

Howzabout:

Vitali Klitschko lost to Chris Byrd
Chris Byrd lost to Wladimir Klitschko (V's brother)
Wladimir Klitschko lost to Lamon Brewster (Byrd's cousin)

Byrd's Dad (Brewster's Uncle) once lost to Muhammed Ali's brother......

Byrd's Brother lost to RJJ Jr, whose Dad fought Marvin Hagler, who beat Roberto Duran, who lost to Hagler's half-brother Robbie Sims, who lost to Vinny Pazienza, who also lost to RJJ.

BRILLIANT

[Heretic]

There are only five steps via common opponents to link a fighter who fought at the lowest professional weight in the sport and the heaviest heavyweight champion of all time.

Valuev - Ruiz - Jones - Hopkins - De La Hoya - Pacquiao.

I was asking the question about this while ago on the current scene section.

Here is the best answer I got.

I can't claim to be a history nerd but Georges Carpentier did fight a guy who weighed 103lbs in 1909 before moving through the weights 'til he fought for the world heavyweight title in 1921! On the other hand the heaviest opponent he ever fought was "only" 197lbs, so it might be argued that you need an extra step (Carpentier-Dempsey-Willard for example) to get from him to a really "modern-sized" heavyweight.