I have to consider McCall his best win simply because of what it meant in the overall scheme of Bruno's career. Ok, McCall may not have prepared as diligently as he should have but for Frank to finally win a world title at the fourth attempt, with the added pressure of knowing he almost certainly wouldn't get another chance if he lost, far surpassed any other victory on his ledger.
I consider Frank's win over Carl Williams far better than the other three on the OP's list of possibles. Williams was probably past his best but not nearly as far past it as Coetzee and Bugner were when they fought Bruno. As for Eklund, he was never close to being a world level fighter imo.
I think the 1989 Mike Tyson who beat Bruno was superior to the 1993 version of Lewis, so Iron Mike would get my vote on the second question.
Best opponent: Tyson. He was better than pre-prime Lewis. I rank Lewis higher than Mike in my all-time list, but 1993 version of Lewis was nowhere near as good as 1999-2001 one (you can exclude Rahman-1 fight since Lewis was cearly unfocused there).
All of em, because with all the will in the world, dear old Frank was a manufactured fighter, with very little natural talent.
What's the definition of a manufactured fighter? I remember a discussion recently. I think someone called AJ manufactured.
A manufactured fighter is a guy with little or no fluidity / rhythm, natural talent, but attains a certain level by hard work and dedication. It is no secret Franks trainers had to sling him out of the gym for his own good at times, such was his commitment to the game.
Okay.. Which other boxers would you say are manufactured? Bellew?
All of em, because with all the will in the world, dear old Frank was a manufactured fighter, with very little natural talent.
Do you actually like boxing?
I like it more than enough to know Frank was slower than molasses, threw punches like a kid painting by numbers, and didn't know wtf to do when he was hurt.
More to the point do you actually KNOW anything about boxing?
I know enough to know that boxing is not about a being a stylist or a slickster or a slugger or any other style for that matter. It's about getting the job done. It's about winning. There is no such thing a manufactured fighter. They are all just guys that get in the ring and throw punches.
I like it more than enough to know Frank was slower than molasses, threw punches like a kid painting by numbers, and didn't know wtf to do when he was hurt.
More to the point do you actually KNOW anything about boxing?
I know enough to know that boxing is not about a being a stylist or a slickster or a slugger or any other style for that matter. It's about getting the job done. It's about winning. There is no such thing a manufactured fighter. They are all just guys that get in the ring and throw punches.
I know enough to know that boxing is not about a being a stylist or a slickster or a slugger or any other style for that matter. It's about getting the job done. It's about winning. There is no such thing a manufactured fighter. They are all just guys that get in the ring and throw punches.
A is the best you've got.
Please explain how someone who started boxing aged nine, won the ABA and won the WBC heavyweight title is manufactured. Please.........
You have been given it. If it is too difficult for you to decipher, that is your problem. No one else's.
You haven't answered at all. How is Frank Bruno a manufactured fighter?
See immediately above.
I have read every post and you don't say in any of them how Frank Bruno was a manufactured fighter. I'll take your refusal to explain as a sign that you don't know what the fvck you're talking about. Or............... you could just explain.
When I think of a manufactured fighter I more think of guys who have transitioned from another sport/profession either due to some physical advantage (size, weight, height, strength) or celebrity name and just fed a string of nobodies to fight so they can build up an unbeaten record and publicity, when in reality they couldn't beat anyone half decent. Bruno wasn't the most naturally gifted boxer but I wouldn't call him manufactured. Depends on your definition I guess.
Almost certainly McCall.........but he was tidy against Carl Williams, brave against Cummings and ruthless with Coetzee.
I thought the McCall fight was bad news for Frank and a slightly cynical match-up - Frank was too old, too many bad defeats and it was back to the well one time too many - but he got organised, made key changes and got himself a result.
Late in the day he showed that he could be a strong, box-puncher and win a fight of note.
