How much of an edge did Wilder's cushioning chin beard give him?

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How much of an edge did Wilder's cushioning chin beard give him?

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How much of an edge did Wilder's cushioning beard give him? That's similar to wearing a cushion protector around your chin. Since when are beards allowed in boxing?
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Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.
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He was also exhaling a lot, all that extra air around his head was cushioning his head getting bounced around.

I think there should be an investigation.
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Beards act as a force field. Worse than taking peds is not using a razor.

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punchoutsb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:08 He was also exhaling a lot, all that extra air around his head was cushioning his head getting bounced around.

I think there should be an investigation.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one. One of the most ridiculous topics I've seen in Current Scene in a long time!! :brick:
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lol what a sad, sad thread

this is like what one of those posts that a wilder fan creates to sarcastically mock because of how ridiculous it is, except this is actually someone with a serious complaint!
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jamamb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:16 lol what a sad, sad thread

this is like what one of those posts that a wilder fan creates to sarcastically mock because of how ridiculous it is, except this is actually someone with a serious complaint!
Slow down. I'm not 100% sure this was a serious complaint :lol:
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x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:06 How much of an edge did Wilder's cushioning beard give him? That's similar to wearing a cushion protector around your chin. Since when are beards allowed in boxing?
Either grow a beard or wear a fake one and punch yourself repeatedly in the face with really powerful blows to measure the pain.

Then remove the beard and punch yourself again in the same vein as the previous test to compare any difference in the amount of pain being felt.

I think to adopt a scientifically correct approach, you should also perform a street survey and ask the people passing by to punch you repeatedly really hard, with or without the beard, to see if the results are consistent.

When you've performed those tests, please disclose them to the forum so we can laugh at your utterly ridiculous opinions! :lol:
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.
:OhYes:
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"One of the most ridiculous topics I've seen in Current Scene in a long time!! "

Really? Then why was Tyson Fury ordered to shave his beard off before his fight with Chisora? Why have beards alwaor even been banned in boxing? Can you find a photo of a boxer from the past with a beard? Of course beards act as a cushion. Would you prefer to get hit on your bare jawbone or have your jawbone proted by a big mountain man beard, or even a strategically placed jaw beard like Wilder was sporting? I think the answer is obvious.
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x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:29 "One of the most ridiculous topics I've seen in Current Scene in a long time!! "

Really? Then why was Tyson Fury ordered to shave his beard off before his fight with Chisora? Why have beards always been banned in boxing? Can you find a photo of a boxer from the past with a beard? Of course beards act as a cushion. Would you prefer to get hit on your bare jawbone or have your jawbone proted by a big mountain man beard, or a strategically placed jaw beard like Wilder was sporting? The answer is obvious.
Lots of fighters have fought with beards. Some commissions have made guys shave their beards in the past if the opposing corner raised a fuss about it. Most corners don't bother.

Broner had a thick beard in his fight with Mikey Garcia as I recall. Didn't do him any favors.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.he feed i was watching it on was

What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at that point.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:31
x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:29 "One of the most ridiculous topics I've seen in Current Scene in a long time!! "

Really? Then why was Tyson Fury ordered to shave his beard off before his fight with Chisora? Why have beards always been banned in boxing? Can you find a photo of a boxer from the past with a beard? Of course beards act as a cushion. Would you prefer to get hit on your bare jawbone or have your jawbone proted by a big mountain man beard, or a strategically placed jaw beard like Wilder was sporting? The answer is obvious.
Lots of fighters have fought with beards. Some commissions have made guys shave their beards in the past if the opposing corner raised a fuss about it. Most corners don't bother.

Broner had a thick beard in his fight with Mikey Garcia as I recall. Didn't do him any favors.
This beard stuff is only a very recent phenomenon. If the boxing commissions aren't doing their job then the opposing corner, Ortiz' in this case, is remiss in not protesting. I think the boxing rules say that a couple of days growth is OK but the jawline must be visible.
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x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.he feed i was watching it on was

What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at that point.
I don't know. I've never seen it before. Not without a guy being cut.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.

This
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:41
x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.he feed i was watching it on was

What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at that point.
I don't know. I've never seen it before. Not without a guy being cut.


I couldn't see it clearly. It looked like the ref wanted the doctor to look at Wilder's face. But if so, why after the round started and not between rounds?
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funny how if we listen to certain ppl these conspiracies only seem to ever be in the favour of black american boxers :lol:
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Best Coast wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:15
punchoutsb wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:08 He was also exhaling a lot, all that extra air around his head was cushioning his head getting bounced around.

I think there should be an investigation.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one. One of the most ridiculous topics I've seen in Current Scene in a long time!! :brick:
Wait couple of hours, ajdfuck will wake up and show us all!!!
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x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:51
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:41
x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:34


What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at that point.
I don't know. I've never seen it before. Not without a guy being cut.


I couldn't see it clearly. It looked like the ref wanted the doctor to look at Wilder's face. But if so, why after the round started and not between rounds?
It was obviously done with the intent to give him more time to recover. Malignaggi called 'em out on it too. I'd assume they'd say they were just being cautious and checking to see if he showed signs of a concussion, but I've literally never seen them do that before tonight in any fight.
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x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.he feed i was watching it on was

What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at point.
Doctor wanted to check Wilder's eyes to see if he feels himself well enough to continue. He should have done it between the rounds though.
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Boxing Writer wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:55
x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:07 Virtually none.

Now how much of an edge did that extra time at the beginning of the 8th round give him might be a better question.he feed i was watching it on was

What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at point.
Doctor wanted to check Wilder's eyes to see if he feels himself well enough to continue. He should have done it between the rounds though.
Wouldn't have bought him any extra time if they did it in between rounds.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:56
Boxing Writer wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:55
x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:34


What was that all about anyway? I was only able to partially see it because the feed i was watching was in and out at point.
Doctor wanted to check Wilder's eyes to see if he feels himself well enough to continue. He should have done it between the rounds though.
Wouldn't have bought him any extra time if they did it in between rounds.
Yes. How can they explain that in the case of investigation by Athletic Commision? Doctor will probably say he noticed that Wilder was coming from his corner on the unsteady legs and thus decided to check his eyes to be sure he was able to continue.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:54
x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:51
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:41

I don't know. I've never seen it before. Not without a guy being cut.


I couldn't see it clearly. It looked like the ref wanted the doctor to look at Wilder's face. But if so, why after the round started and not between rounds?
It was obviously done with the intent to give him more time to recover. Malignaggi called 'em out on it too. I'd assume they'd say they were just being cautious and checking to see if he showed signs of a concussion, but I've literally never seen them do that before tonight in any fight.
Good for Malignaggi then. That's sure what it looked like.
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Boxing Writer wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 02:02
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:56
Boxing Writer wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:55
Doctor wanted to check Wilder's eyes to see if he feels himself well enough to continue. He should have done it between the rounds though.
Wouldn't have bought him any extra time if they did it in between rounds.
Yes. How can they explain that in the case of investigation by Athletic Commision? Doctor will probably say he noticed that Wilder was coming from his corner on the unsteady legs and thus decided to check his eyes to be sure he was able to continue.
There won't be an investigation. The Commissions judges had Wilder ahead coming into the 10th unanimously...they knew what was up.
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x2x wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 01:06 How much of an edge did Wilder's cushioning beard give him? That's similar to wearing a cushion protector around your chin. Since when are beards allowed in boxing?
Are you serious? It’s minimal and they’re not banned. It’s up to the opponent to agree whether they’re comfortable with it.

Anyway, the reason some boxers ask opponents to shave is mainly so they can clearly see their opponents chin and to prevent further damage if cut.
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