Who should Ortiz fight next?

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Won't even begin to analyze Fury's worth until he finally ends his 10 year sabbatical---no sure thing---and steps into the ring.

Unlikely Ortiz will retire. If he's still fighting at 38, he must enjoy it. And if he's really 100, as some if you claim, then he'll probably still be fighting long after Wilder and Joshua retire.

Maybe a matchup with Big Baby Miller next if the Joshua fight falls through.

But if Ortiz isn't damaged goods after last night's crushing KO, he might be far too experienced for Miller.
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Syntax Error wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 14:50 He should try & target the loser of Joshua v Parker.

He's still a big name with some cachet.

PS: He should be nicked The Camel instead of King Kong: He's forever spitting in the ring! :oo :witzend:
That's a great idea. Parker Ortiz.
Be some money in it I recon.
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KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:24
Syntax Error wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 14:50 He should try & target the loser of Joshua v Parker.

He's still a big name with some cachet.

PS: He should be nicked The Camel instead of King Kong: He's forever spitting in the ring! :oo :witzend:
That's a great idea. Parker Ortiz.
Be some money in it I recon.
After Parker takes out Joshua...lol.
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It won't happen but I'd pay a weeks wages to see Ortiz-Povetkin
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oogiebe wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:26
KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:24
Syntax Error wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 14:50 He should try & target the loser of Joshua v Parker.

He's still a big name with some cachet.

PS: He should be nicked The Camel instead of King Kong: He's forever spitting in the ring! :oo :witzend:
That's a great idea. Parker Ortiz.
Be some money in it I recon.
After Parker takes out Joshua...lol.
I expect Parker will get blitzed in one sided fashion.
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oogiebe wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:26
KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:24
Syntax Error wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 14:50 He should try & target the loser of Joshua v Parker.

He's still a big name with some cachet.

PS: He should be nicked The Camel instead of King Kong: He's forever spitting in the ring! :oo :witzend:
That's a great idea. Parker Ortiz.
Be some money in it I recon.
After Parker takes out Joshua...lol.
I was thinking more of a silver medal fight after Parker loses to AJ.
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KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:28
oogiebe wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:26
KiwiRider wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:24
That's a great idea. Parker Ortiz.
Be some money in it I recon.
After Parker takes out Joshua...lol.
I was thinking more of a silver medal fight after Parker loses to AJ.
Of course. Thus the "LOL" on my post.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:19 Briggs would be a good opponent for Fury's comeback because Briggs has the attention of a few Boxing nerds on the internet, and is at least perceived by some morons to be a threat still. So that might be a good win for Fury to come back on. Briggs would be mildly dangerous for about 120 seconds and then Fury could just win a staring contest...we know he loves that.
Yes because fury has wonderful form for all the staring contests he's been in. Dull as shit when on his game no doubt, doesn't mean he's not effective and very difficult to beat. The feints and movement alone are enough to give any hw an issue, I don't see many others able to do that kind of thing and they don't know how to respond to it.

I'd like to see ortiz against a fringe contender next, maybe a whyte or brown winner, Miller could be fun, Washington or brezeale even.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:19 Briggs would be a good opponent for Fury's comeback because Briggs has the attention of a few Boxing nerds on the internet, and is at least perceived by some morons to be a threat still. So that might be a good win for Fury to come back on. Briggs would be mildly dangerous for about 120 seconds and then Fury could just win a staring contest...we know he loves that.
Briggs and Fury have been yacking about fighting each other but who knows.

Fury even claimed he's sending out contracts to both Briggs and Tarver (why?) but as expected, it appears to be just a lot of talk.

I have a feeling, given Briggs' age and Fury's endless hiatus, a bout between them would 10 deadly monotonous rounds.

"Boxing nerds" and "morons." I have a hunch that accurate description of Briggs' groupies might rattle the sensitivities of a certain someone here.
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SenorPipino wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:19 Briggs would be a good opponent for Fury's comeback because Briggs has the attention of a few Boxing nerds on the internet, and is at least perceived by some morons to be a threat still. So that might be a good win for Fury to come back on. Briggs would be mildly dangerous for about 120 seconds and then Fury could just win a staring contest...we know he loves that.
Briggs and Fury have been yacking about fighting each other but who knows.

Fury even claimed he's sending out contracts to both Briggs and Tarver (why?) but as expected, it appears to be just a lot of talk.

I have a feeling, given Briggs' age and Fury's endless hiatus, a bout between them would 10 deadly monotonous rounds.

"Boxing nerds" and "morons." I have a hunch that accurate description of Briggs' groupies might rattle the sensitivities of a certain someone here.
Here's where the hype leading up to the fight will be the way more entertaining.
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Yes We Can wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:19 Briggs would be a good opponent for Fury's comeback because Briggs has the attention of a few Boxing nerds on the internet, and is at least perceived by some morons to be a threat still. So that might be a good win for Fury to come back on. Briggs would be mildly dangerous for about 120 seconds and then Fury could just win a staring contest...we know he loves that.
Yes because fury has wonderful form for all the staring contests he's been in. Dull as poo when on his game no doubt, doesn't mean he's not effective and very difficult to beat. The feints and movement alone are enough to give any hw an issue, I don't see many others able to do that kind of thing and they don't know how to respond to it.

I'd like to see ortiz against a fringe contender next, maybe a whyte or brown winner, Miller could be fun, Washington or brezeale even.
He's effective against guys that just follow him around and don't do sh*t. Wilder or Joshua would bomb on his ass like he stole something from 'em.
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:36
Yes We Can wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:34
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:19 Briggs would be a good opponent for Fury's comeback because Briggs has the attention of a few Boxing nerds on the internet, and is at least perceived by some morons to be a threat still. So that might be a good win for Fury to come back on. Briggs would be mildly dangerous for about 120 seconds and then Fury could just win a staring contest...we know he loves that.
Yes because fury has wonderful form for all the staring contests he's been in. Dull as poo when on his game no doubt, doesn't mean he's not effective and very difficult to beat. The feints and movement alone are enough to give any hw an issue, I don't see many others able to do that kind of thing and they don't know how to respond to it.

I'd like to see ortiz against a fringe contender next, maybe a whyte or brown winner, Miller could be fun, Washington or brezeale even.
He's effective against guys that just follow him around and don't do sh*t. Wilder or Joshua would bomb on his ass like he stole something from 'em.
Maybe they would, but I don't see them being so hung home against somebody so big, even if he doesn't carry to much power....

And what about when his movement and his feints throw there rhythm, and they start second guessing when to throw and what to throw etc.

Of course I'm presuming tyson the Dyson is still as he were, which isn't likely.
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Yes We Can wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:40
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:36
Yes We Can wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:34

Yes because fury has wonderful form for all the staring contests he's been in. Dull as poo when on his game no doubt, doesn't mean he's not effective and very difficult to beat. The feints and movement alone are enough to give any hw an issue, I don't see many others able to do that kind of thing and they don't know how to respond to it.

I'd like to see ortiz against a fringe contender next, maybe a whyte or brown winner, Miller could be fun, Washington or brezeale even.
He's effective against guys that just follow him around and don't do sh*t. Wilder or Joshua would bomb on his ass like he stole something from 'em.
Maybe they would, but I don't see them being so hung home against somebody so big, even if he doesn't carry to much power....

And what about when his movement and his feints throw there rhythm, and they start second guessing when to throw and what to throw etc.

Of course I'm presuming tyson the Dyson is still as he were, which isn't likely.
If Fury can get into shape and fight like before the suspension, he's a tough beat for anyone. Much as I disdain him.
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chuck9788 wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 13:55 (If he stays active) Who would you like to see Luis "King Kong" Ortiz (28-1, 24 KO's) fight next?
Ortiz v. Klitchko with winner taking on Tyson Fury...let them all play in the sandbox together.
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oogiebe wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:45
chuck9788 wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 13:55 (If he stays active) Who would you like to see Luis "King Kong" Ortiz (28-1, 24 KO's) fight next?
Ortiz v. Klitchko with winner taking on Tyson Fury...let them all play in the sandbox together.
Klitschko's retired
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..I don't think Ortiz was doing that badly against Wilder..not sure how it would have ended, had Wilder not thrown him down half way out of the ring a minute before the knockdown...anyway, juicing aside, I 'd like to see him against Povetkin..
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Winner Whyte vs Browne?
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asdfjkl wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 20:15 Winner Whyte vs Browne?
Isn't this a wbc final eliminater?
Whites #1 contender I can't see him risking it.
But I'd pick Ortiz to beat either
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tiny_acres wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 20:18
asdfjkl wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 20:15 Winner Whyte vs Browne?
Isn't this a wbc final eliminater?
Whites #1 contender I can't see him risking it.
But I'd pick Ortiz to beat either
Oh, I don't know, that makes me wonder even more why Wilder prefered to fight Ortiz for 2 mil instead of Whyte for 5 mil. I also think Ortiz is better just before the Wilder fight. Not sure if he still is in 6 months.
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Father Time :OhYes:
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:08
oogiebe wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 15:56
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 15:49

Any of the contenders fighting each other for any reason would be welcome at Heavyweight. Most of the fighters at Heavy got thin resumes...even the guys at the top.
I'm actually extremely curious of what we're going to get on Tyson Fury's re-entrance. He is so difficult to fight I almost agree with him about giving fits to every heavyweight out there. He's like a tall strong Jimmy Young...so unconventional and so very tough.
He's a fat tub of sh*t that won his title in a staring contest. Wilder or Joshua both flatten him inside 5 rounds. He's a joke, and a disgrace to the sport.
Fury picked Wlad apart. Joshua may have given a more entertaining fight with Wlad, but Joshua struggled mightily, whereas Fury had an easy time of it. It's quite possible that if Fury is in peak form, he may pick part Joshua as well, and maybe Wilder too. Fury has the most height and reach of the good big men, and has an easy time of shutting down other skilled big men.
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Lackeos wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 22:39
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:08
oogiebe wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 15:56

I'm actually extremely curious of what we're going to get on Tyson Fury's re-entrance. He is so difficult to fight I almost agree with him about giving fits to every heavyweight out there. He's like a tall strong Jimmy Young...so unconventional and so very tough.
He's a fat tub of sh*t that won his title in a staring contest. Wilder or Joshua both flatten him inside 5 rounds. He's a joke, and a disgrace to the sport.
Fury picked Wlad apart. Joshua may have given a more entertaining fight with Wlad, but Joshua struggled mightily, whereas Fury had an easy time of it. It's quite possible that if Fury is in peak form, he may pick part Joshua as well, and maybe Wilder too. Fury has the most height and reach of the good big men, and has an easy time of shutting down other skilled big men.
It's honestly hilarious the way Tyson Fury gets to maintain this "Heavyweight Pernell Whitaker" image in the minds of you guys based off of the worst fight of all time, and a near 3 year hiatus :lol:
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 23:03
Lackeos wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 22:39
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:08

He's a fat tub of sh*t that won his title in a staring contest. Wilder or Joshua both flatten him inside 5 rounds. He's a joke, and a disgrace to the sport.
Fury picked Wlad apart. Joshua may have given a more entertaining fight with Wlad, but Joshua struggled mightily, whereas Fury had an easy time of it. It's quite possible that if Fury is in peak form, he may pick part Joshua as well, and maybe Wilder too. Fury has the most height and reach of the good big men, and has an easy time of shutting down other skilled big men.
It's honestly hilarious the way Tyson Fury gets to maintain this "Heavyweight Pernell Whitaker" image in the minds of you guys based off of the worst fight of all time, and a near 3 year hiatus :lol:
Yeah I don't get that either.

Comparing Fury to Jimmy Young?

The same slippery, defensive whiz Jimmy Young who fought in the 70s and into the 80s?

That Jimmy Young?
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gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 23:03
Lackeos wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 22:39
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 16:08

He's a fat tub of sh*t that won his title in a staring contest. Wilder or Joshua both flatten him inside 5 rounds. He's a joke, and a disgrace to the sport.
Fury picked Wlad apart. Joshua may have given a more entertaining fight with Wlad, but Joshua struggled mightily, whereas Fury had an easy time of it. It's quite possible that if Fury is in peak form, he may pick part Joshua as well, and maybe Wilder too. Fury has the most height and reach of the good big men, and has an easy time of shutting down other skilled big men.
It's honestly hilarious the way Tyson Fury gets to maintain this "Heavyweight Pernell Whitaker" image in the minds of you guys based off of the worst fight of all time, and a near 3 year hiatus :lol:
It's hilarious that you are too dumb to acknowledge how great of an accomplishment it is to dominate Wlad. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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chuck9788 wrote: 04 Mar 2018, 13:55 (If he stays active) Who would you like to see Luis "King Kong" Ortiz (28-1, 24 KO's) fight next?
Big Baby Miller would destroy the old man... Ortiz is done... The youngsters outlasted him and he won't get better at 39 and 40... It's over dude... You should have finished Wilder in the 7th... Where were your cool and short hard flurries??
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