Who is the next for Wilder ?

Who is the next for Wilder ?

Ortiz, rematch
1
3%
Povetkin
2
6%
Takam
0
No votes
Miller
2
6%
Whyte
11
32%
Martin
2
6%
Breazeale
7
21%
Pulev
1
3%
Joshua
8
24%
The others
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 34

bigman1968
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by bigman1968 »

White isn't Mandatory, btw???
candyslim
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by candyslim »

There's nothing wrong with Wilder fighting Breazeale, Whyte, Miller etc. You can't face a top fighter every time out there just aren't enough of them. Wilder dealt with Ortiz, now he has earned the right to fight someone a bit easier. The criticism wasn't so much him fighting the Szpilkas, Molinas and Duhaupases rather that he'd never faced fighters of a higher level - well now he has.

I thought before he fought Ortiz that the obvious thing to do would be to fight Whyte in London. It would mean great UK exposure and a substantial pay-day. That hasn't changed.

The only difference I see is the level of risk. I looked at Wilder's slender frame and imagined Whyte digging in hooks to the body that would discourage him and hurt him. I thought Whyte would stand a good chance of winning, now I don't. So what's changed, Deontay's always had tremendous power that's plain to see, and he hasn't suddenly become less awkward and ungainly?

That's true but he has proved to me in beating Ortiz that he is much tougher than he looks, takes a good shot, and he has great heart and desire to win. I now think he has little to fear from Whyte and it's a great opportunity for him.
Lackeos
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by Lackeos »

Adam Kownacki, Charles Martin, Tony Bellew, or Dominick Breazeale would seem most likely to me.
Badhusker
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by Badhusker »

Wilder isn't going to want a soft opponent, or anyone other than the winner of AJ and Parker. If Hearn puts him off once again, it will be a duck, plain and simple. I wouldn't say duck unless it is about 2 or 3 fights past when Hearn originally said Wilder was next. They both fought less than a month apart, so lets finally get this done. It won't get any bigger than it already is.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-pla ... klitschko/

My guess is that assuming AJ wins, he will all of a sudden have one or two ultra important mandatories he needs to take care of, like Miller or Povetkin. If that happens, I hope Wilder refuses to fight him from here on out, stating that Hearn and Joshua ducked him. Tell him no until the purse split is in his favor. The funny thing is that I think AJ most likely will beat Wilder, but its the chance of catching a bomb and getting KO'd that worries them.
Boxing Writer
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by Boxing Writer »

Badhusker wrote: 06 Mar 2018, 09:19 Wilder isn't going to want a soft opponent, or anyone other than the winner of AJ and Parker. If Hearn puts him off once again, it will be a duck, plain and simple. I wouldn't say duck unless it is about 2 or 3 fights past when Hearn originally said Wilder was next. They both fought less than a month apart, so lets finally get this done. It won't get any bigger than it already is.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-pla ... klitschko/

My guess is that assuming AJ wins, he will all of a sudden have one or two ultra important mandatories he needs to take care of, like Miller or Povetkin. If that happens, I hope Wilder refuses to fight him from here on out, stating that Hearn and Joshua ducked him. Tell him no until the purse split is in his favor. The funny thing is that I think AJ most likely will beat Wilder, but its the chance of catching a bomb and getting KO'd that worries them.
In your opinion, what purse split would be fair for Joshua and Wilder assuming they will fight each other this summer? I think their fight is about 80-90% as big now as it can be, but it CAN be even bigger if AJ beats Miller in USA and Wilder beats Whyte, especially if he knocks him out qiucker than Joshua did.

What I expect though, is Wilder fighting Breazeale next and then Whyte. If AJ beats Parker, I think he will face Povetkin and Miller this year.
Badhusker
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by Badhusker »

Boxing Writer wrote: 06 Mar 2018, 09:28
Badhusker wrote: 06 Mar 2018, 09:19 Wilder isn't going to want a soft opponent, or anyone other than the winner of AJ and Parker. If Hearn puts him off once again, it will be a duck, plain and simple. I wouldn't say duck unless it is about 2 or 3 fights past when Hearn originally said Wilder was next. They both fought less than a month apart, so lets finally get this done. It won't get any bigger than it already is.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-pla ... klitschko/

My guess is that assuming AJ wins, he will all of a sudden have one or two ultra important mandatories he needs to take care of, like Miller or Povetkin. If that happens, I hope Wilder refuses to fight him from here on out, stating that Hearn and Joshua ducked him. Tell him no until the purse split is in his favor. The funny thing is that I think AJ most likely will beat Wilder, but its the chance of catching a bomb and getting KO'd that worries them.
In your opinion, what purse split would be fair for Joshua and Wilder assuming they will fight each other this summer? I think their fight is about 80-90% as big now as it can be, but it CAN be even bigger if AJ beats Miller in USA and Wilder beats Whyte, especially if he knocks him out qiucker than Joshua did.

What I expect though, is Wilder fighting Breazeale next and then Whyte. If AJ beats Parker, I think he will face Povetkin and Miller this year.
Realistically, I think what Wilder told Hearn/AJ most recently about if AJ gets the biggest split, ok, but then if Wilder wins they basically reverse that split, whatever it is. AJ is the bigger draw, so it sounds fair. Hearn will never agree to it though, just like he would never agree that AJ will fight Wilder next if Wilder fought Whyte.

Since we probably won't see Wilder vs AJ next, the hatred between Wilder and Breazeale would make for an entertaining fight, and more entertaining pre-fight. I would be surprised if Breazeale lasts 5 rounds. I would rather see Wilder keep his foot on the gas as far as opponents, and take on either Miller or Povetkin next, more of a test imo. Have AJ fight one, and Wilder the other. (Assuming AJ beats Parker, which isn't a lock)
candyslim
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by candyslim »

That would be the perfect solution. Wilder agrees a 60/40 split in Joshua's favour and if he wins the 60/40 is reversed for the rematch. That strikes me as extremely fair and logical. Of course what I think doesn't matter in the least, it's Hearn that has to be convinced.

I also agree AJ v Parker is not a lock.
G.McClellan
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Re: Who is the next for Wilder ?

Post by G.McClellan »

candyslim wrote: 06 Mar 2018, 04:29 There's nothing wrong with Wilder fighting Breazeale, Whyte, Miller etc. You can't face a top fighter every time out there just aren't enough of them. Wilder dealt with Ortiz, now he has earned the right to fight someone a bit easier. The criticism wasn't so much him fighting the Szpilkas, Molinas and Duhaupases rather that he'd never faced fighters of a higher level - well now he has.

I thought before he fought Ortiz that the obvious thing to do would be to fight Whyte in London. It would mean great UK exposure and a substantial pay-day. That hasn't changed.

The only difference I see is the level of risk. I looked at Wilder's slender frame and imagined Whyte digging in hooks to the body that would discourage him and hurt him. I thought Whyte would stand a good chance of winning, now I don't. So what's changed, Deontay's always had tremendous power that's plain to see, and he hasn't suddenly become less awkward and ungainly?

That's true but he has proved to me in beating Ortiz that he is much tougher than he looks, takes a good shot, and he has great heart and desire to win. I now think he has little to fear from Whyte and it's a great opportunity for him.
This is how I feel also. Wilder would be favoured over Whyte.

We also got to remember his team want Joshua. Though Joshua has muted the idea (for now at least).
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