Scott Quigg - missed the weight

[ewenhay]

How does that work ?

Valdez makes weight Quigg doesn't.
Quigg can't win the strap but if Valdez loses then the title becomes vacant ... is that what your saying ?

WBO have confirmed that's what will happen

I was just thinking.

Why should a champion lose his title if the challenger wins but was officially overweight?

Technically Valdez would be fighting an over-the-weight bout so why should his 126 lb. championship be on the line?

It seems unfair to the titleholder.

It's a totally unfair rule. Probably only introduced to make sure fights go ahead and are competitive rather than the champion pulling out meaning promoter would lose money.

[SenorPipino]

I don't offhand recall a champion losing to an overweight challenging, thereby losing the title.

But if it does happen, I wouldn't be surprised to someday see a defrocked champion challenging the ruling in court.

A champion shouldn't be penalized for the failure of the challenger to meet the weight stipulation.

Maybe the sanctioning body seizes the title from a beaten champion in these situations because they don't want their organization represented by someone with the stigma of a loser.


Odds on this bout have remained the same despite the weight controversy. Valdez is still a solid -450 favorite.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don't offhand recall a champion losing to an overweight challenging, thereby losing the title.

But if it does happen, I wouldn't be surprised to someday see a defrocked champion challenging the ruling in court.

A champion shouldn't be penalized for the failure of the challenger to meet the weight stipulation.

Maybe the sanctioning body seizes the title from a beaten champion in these situations because they don't want their organization represented by someone with the stigma of a loser.

I think that's what it might be. The fact that the champion loses. (even though the challenger over-weighed them..)

[Shirow]

Let's be absolutely clear about this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the Quigg camp would have known during the last week of training, possibly longer, that he had no chance of making the weight. When that's known all they can do is get down as far as possible so it doesn't look too bad.
Yes they'll lose some money and they can't win a title but I'd love to know Quigg's weight by fight time. 10 stones ( 140 pounds) anyone ???? So is it a fair fight anymore ?

I've never been in a boxer's camp when crashing a huge amount of weight so I'm only going but from received information but it doesn't always seem that straight forward.
Quigg wouldn't be unique if he was shedding double that 3lbs in the last 24 hours before the weigh in so how could the camp know that the last 3lbs would not shift if he was at his normal weight 24 hours out?

If Jeff Horn goes through the same weight loss process he did for his last fight when he fights Crawford that will mean dropping about 9lbs in the last 24 hours. If for some reason he can only lose 6lbs will his camp have known in advance?

I also remember watching one of those behind the scenes videos of Crawford wrapped up in towels and a duvet with his hotel room heating on max to drop lbs in the few hours before a weigh in.
I'd like to hear from someone in the know whether missing weight like this can always be put down to laziness or if sometimes the body will genuinely just refuse.

[ewenhay]

It's full of flaws though isn't it?

A champion can lose his title on the scales but can't win the title on the scales.

The champion has to beat an opponent who didn't make weight and therefore had an advantage to keep his title.

Just more proof that the sanctioning bodies have more interest in money than their champions.

[Covfefe]

Reading a few people on Twitter saying he fractured his foot and couldn’t do his running.

[dalcumly]

In this day and age, with a champion boxer like Quigg, they have strength coaches and nutritionists on board. Trust me, twice a day for about 10 days before the fight Quigg's weight will be monitored. About 7 days ago , with the weight not shifting he'll have suffering like hell - starving basically. He'll have been given vitamins etc and still the weight won't shift. About 2/3 days ago the team will have given up and tried to keep him healthy for the fight, that's why I would demand, if I was Valdez, to know his weight in the dressing room. Quigg will be huge. He'll have started re-hydrating even before the weigh in.

[samwbr]

Rumours it might be off due to row about the financial penalty and also the weather as floods are forecast.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Rumours it might be off due to row about the financial penalty and also the weather as floods are forecast.

They sorted the penalties out. Quiggs camp rejected the idea of doing a morning weigh checkk so he could be no more than 136 pounds. He was fined the 20% of his original purse with half of that going to Valdez.

[SenorPipino]

I live in Los Angeles, site of the fight, and while there is light rain today, there's no fear of any flooding.

I haven't seen a heavy rain in LA in several years. This light stuff won't threaten the card.

[ElJefe]

These 3 tweets pretty much sum up my feelings on this. Let's not sugar coat it because he's British. Let's call it exactly what we'd call it if a Mexican challenger came over here and did what Quigg has done. Unprofessional.

[MightyWarrior]

Flood and fight off rumours seem mainly to be Ron Lewis of the times ...

Yes poor from Quigg, Interesting ( and telling ) how the bookies appear to think he’s got zero advantage with the added weight, odds wise.

It could be he would rather have actually made the weight, and got a decent payday. Not sure what the fine is, but I would imagine it’s massive, as the away fighter.

[SenorPipino]

Nery didn't get any sympathy or excuses a few weeks back when he came in well over the 118 lb. limit in Japan.

Not that he should.

It's a fighter's obligation to make weight. Coming in several pounds heavy for any world championship match is inexcusable.

It's a slap in the face to the promotion, the opponent and the fans.

[SenorPipino]

Flood and fight off rumours seem mainly to be Ron Lewis of the times ...

Yes poor from Quigg, Interesting ( and telling ) how the bookies appear to think he’s got zero advantage with the added weight, odds wise.

It could be he would rather have actually made the weight, and got a decent payday. Not sure what the fine is, but I would imagine it’s massive, as the away fighter.

Right now in Carson, Ca, the site of the fight, there are light rain showers.

The same is predicted for tonight.

The predicted total amount of rain in Carson today is about 1/2 inch.

Not exactly a flood.

[Heretic]

needs to get on that mexican beef diet

Yeah the one rich in proteins and clenbuterol

[Shirow]

In this day and age, with a champion boxer like Quigg, they have strength coaches and nutritionists on board. Trust me, twice a day for about 10 days before the fight Quigg's weight will be monitored. About 7 days ago , with the weight not shifting he'll have suffering like hell - starving basically. He'll have been given vitamins etc and still the weight won't shift. About 2/3 days ago the team will have given up and tried to keep him healthy for the fight, that's why I would demand, if I was Valdez, to know his weight in the dressing room. Quigg will be huge. He'll have started re-hydrating even before the weigh in.

Is it not possible that he is telling the truth and the weight was coming off as normal and then just stopped at the last 3 pounds yesterday?

I've said it before -there should be a fight night weight limit (at least for titles) of being within the next weight category so a Featherweight can't step into the ring heavier than the Super Featherweight limit and snag a belt.
If the advantages they want to gain by being the bigger man mean they can't win titles hopefully boxers will end up in their natural weight classes and missing weight will become less frequent and fights more even.

[SenorPipino]

needs to get on that mexican beef diet

Yeah the one rich in proteins and clenbuterol

Considering all the Mexican beef I've eaten in Tijuana over the years, I must be drowning in PEDS.

I'm trying to cycle off.

[handsofstone]

Fights off apparently Valdez slipped in the shower

[Tugger28]

This stinks as much as the other pros coming out and saying Quigg is the best professional..

It’s your job, you have to;

1. Train
2. Make weight
3. Turn up to fight

It’s not rocket science..He would have known at least a week ago he was struggling..
At this level they get paid very well...unprofessional.

[bripez]

needs to get on that mexican beef diet

Yeah the one rich in proteins and clenbuterol

Just be careful you don’t catch asthma with all that outdoor cycling.



Considering all the Mexican beef I've eaten in Tijuana over the years, I must be drowning in PEDS.

I'm trying to cycle off.

[Jackson328]

Let's be absolutely clear about this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the Quigg camp would have known during the last week of training, possibly longer, that he had no chance of making the weight. When that's known all they can do is get down as far as possible so it doesn't look too bad.
Yes they'll lose some money and they can't win a title but I'd love to know Quigg's weight by fight time. 10 stones ( 140 pounds) anyone ???? So is it a fair fight anymore ?

They should fine the boxer ( and his camp, manager, promoter etc) who is overweight proportionately for every ounce over and give it to the opponent who made weight, then cancel the bout. It's every bit as bad as peds this BS, an overweight fighter should not be allowed to fight, end of. As someone said, we have weight classes for a reason so why should Quigg be allowed in the ring to endanger his opponent when he failed to meet his contractual obligation to weigh in at the designated limit? If people want to cut corners in order to compete at a lower weight then thats their choice but when they fail and come in over the limit it should not be the opponent who made weight or the paying customers who suffer as a consequence.

[danconnollyeire]

Let's be absolutely clear about this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the Quigg camp would have known during the last week of training, possibly longer, that he had no chance of making the weight. When that's known all they can do is get down as far as possible so it doesn't look too bad.
Yes they'll lose some money and they can't win a title but I'd love to know Quigg's weight by fight time. 10 stones ( 140 pounds) anyone ???? So is it a fair fight anymore ?

They should fine the boxer ( and his camp, manager, promoter etc) who is overweight proportionately for every ounce over and give it to the opponent who made weight, then cancel the bout. It's every bit as bad as peds this BS, an overweight fighter should not be allowed to fight, end of. As someone said, we have weight classes for a reason so why should Quigg be allowed in the ring to endanger his opponent when he failed to meet his contractual obligation to weigh in at the designated limit? If people want to cut corners in order to compete at a lower weight then thats their choice but when they fail and come in over the limit it should not be the opponent who made weight or the paying customers who suffer as a consequence.

Bit extreme. if Quigg is 'endangering him' by being 3 pounds over... they should 100% cancel the AJ/Parker fight now!

[IrishGuy]

Any links to this card?

[TheLeprechaun]

I have always thought Valdez will win but I did WANT Quigg to win. Now I hope Valdez starches him

[IrishGuy]

What irks me most is his refusal to a rehydration weight limit.