The Worth of Rocky Marciano

[oogiebe]

Didn't the euro version have Ali winning?

I honestly had no idea another version was released.

Serious, how did you not know that?
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1 - I was a toddler
2 - Thanks to you I know it now. I could've said I knew, but I did not.

[Controversial]

I honestly had no idea another version was released.

Serious, how did you not know that?

1 - I was a toddler
2 - Thanks to you I know it now. I could've said I knew, but I did not.

I wasn’t taking the piss, just assumed you would have known being related to the producer. No reason why you would’ve though. A cool claim to fame, was there any bad blood after Ali sued him (assuming Wikipedia is correct)?

[oogiebe]

No worries...I just answered you, yours was a legitimate question. I emailed my cousin for more stories, in case there are any. He is on the CD released a while ago. Not the greatest boxing mind, but he was my uncle's son!

[HomicideHenry]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

[APerno]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

The other version: Ali by TKO was filmed and I guess shown somewhere.

[APerno]

I had read once (but damned if I remember where or when) that they filmed all the possible endings. Both by KO, both by TKO, and both by decision. -- There is also suppose to be lost footage of Marciano losing his toupee.

[HomicideHenry]

I had read once (but damned if I remember where or when) that they filmed all the possible endings. Both by KO, both by TKO, and both by decision. -- There is also suppose to be lost footage of Marciano losing his toupee.

If you watch the Superfight it's either round 9 or 10, where you see the wig become displaced. Allegedly after that a huge fight broke out between Rocky and Ali, and filming couldn't resume for a couple of days.

[HomicideHenry]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

The other version: Ali by TKO was filmed and I guess shown somewhere.

If you watch the Superfight DVD it says that nobody ever saw the alternative ending. The reporter just lied to the BBC saying that Ali won.

[APerno]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

The other version: Ali by TKO was filmed and I guess shown somewhere.

If you watch the Superfight DVD it says that nobody ever saw the alternative ending. The reporter just lied to the BBC saying that Ali won.

Interesting, I wonder if the nephew can clear it up? This ending got out there somehow, or was this made available on the Super Fight DVD for the first time?

[Controversial]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

Eh, so how is there another version on youtube showing Ali winning in the 13th round then?

[HomicideHenry]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

Eh, so how is there another version on youtube showing Ali winning in the 13th round then?

The alternative version was never released until the Superfight DVD came out. The DVD extras show the Ali victory as a never before seen fight.

[Controversial]

There was no alternative version. What happened was someone from the British press got ahold of the film, and in the round where referee Dundee looked as though he'd stop the fight, the reporter told a fictitious account saying that Ali won the contest shortly thereafter.

Eh, so how is there another version on youtube showing Ali winning in the 13th round then?

The alternative version was never released until the Superfight DVD came out. The DVD extras show the Ali victory as a never before seen fight.

Ah, sorry I misinterpreted what you were saying, I thought you meant they never filmed an alternative ending.

[HomicideHenry]

It's all good. People tend to forget this was 1969 and Ali was viewed more favorably in Europe and the British Isles than he was in America. The BBC reporter was simply giving the British public the result that they'd want, considering that Marciano was essentially despised by the British because of his brutal blasting of Don Cockell that many Britain's thought was rife with fouls fourteen years before.

[oogiebe]

The other version: Ali by TKO was filmed and I guess shown somewhere.

If you watch the Superfight DVD it says that nobody ever saw the alternative ending. The reporter just lied to the BBC saying that Ali won.

Interesting, I wonder if the nephew can clear it up? This ending got out there somehow, or was this made available on the Super Fight DVD for the first time?

I hope so...the filming was choreographed to show every possible scenario by exchange, round, etc. No one knew the winner until all data was put into the computer, which had some strange name. Once the results came out, the film clips were cobbled together to make the entire fight. I imagine over the years that ALL clips somehow got out to the public, as none were destroyed and it's what, almost 60 years, and folks made up fake endings and such. I'll ask my cousin. He'll know. But was unaware of any alternative FINISHED PRODUCT.