Why is Eddie Hearn calling the shots?

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actjac
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Why is Eddie Hearn calling the shots?

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Its as if its a foregone conclusion that Joshua will fight Wilder next?. . . .What if Parker wins? Is Hearn going to be involved in Parker's next fight(s)?. . . .and its as if he is dictating the details of any Wilder fight. . . .It seems to me that Al Haymon has something significant to say and even Duco Events on Parker's behalf.
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maybe because joshua makes about 10x what wilder does

aj guarnteed around 20m for parker, wilder just got 2m for ortiz. even for vs takam aj made i think around 15m

the side of the guy who makes way more usually has more leverage and tries calling shots
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actjac wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 21:39 Its as if its a foregone conclusion that Joshua will fight Wilder next?. . . .What if Parker wins? Is Hearn going to be involved in Parker's next fight(s)?. . . .and its as if he is dictating the details of any Wilder fight. . . .It seems to me that Al Haymon has something significant to say and even Duco Events on Parker's behalf.
Joshua has a rematch clause in the event he loses to Parker, but Parker doesn't have one.

Eddie Hearn promotes AJ.
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My question is what happens if Parker wins?. . . . Duco and Top Rank have the say with Parker. . . . and later Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle have the authority to negotiate for Wilder. None of them are slouches and certainly all have the capabilities to craft big deals. . . . .Why does Eddie Hearn think that he will have the lead?
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actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 20:56 My question is what happens if Parker wins?. . . . Duco and Top Rank have the say with Parker. . . . and later Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle have the authority to negotiate for Wilder. None of them are slouches and certainly all have the capabilities to craft big deals. . . . .Why does Eddie Hearn think that he will have the lead?
Did you read my previous response? It answers your question in the simplest manner possible.

I'm willing to repeat myself though...

Eddie Hearn will have complete control over Parker's next bout if he manages to upset AJ, because the Kiwi is contractually-obliged to grant Joshua an immediate rematch.

Parker would be unable to consider facing anyone else in his very next outing, unless he received permission from AJ... and Eddie Hearn controls Joshua, so he is actually "calling the shots" by proxy.

This is what is known as a rematch clause!
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Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 08:03
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 20:56 My question is what happens if Parker wins?. . . . Duco and Top Rank have the say with Parker. . . . and later Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle have the authority to negotiate for Wilder. None of them are slouches and certainly all have the capabilities to craft big deals. . . . .Why does Eddie Hearn think that he will have the lead?
Did you read my previous response? It answers your question in the simplest manner possible.
:lol:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 08:03
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 20:56 My question is what happens if Parker wins?. . . . Duco and Top Rank have the say with Parker. . . . and later Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle have the authority to negotiate for Wilder. None of them are slouches and certainly all have the capabilities to craft big deals. . . . .Why does Eddie Hearn think that he will have the lead?
Did you read my previous response? It answers your question in the simplest manner possible.

I'm willing to repeat myself though...

Eddie Hearn will have complete control over Parker's next bout if he manages to upset AJ, because the Kiwi is contractually-obliged to grant Joshua an immediate rematch.

Parker would be unable to consider facing anyone else in his very next outing, unless he received permission from AJ... and Eddie Hearn controls Joshua, so he is actually "calling the shots" by proxy.


This is what is known as a rematch clause!
The question IS:. . .So why does Eddie Hearn act as if he in control?.. .He is acting like its his call to determine the terms of a Wilder-Joshua fight. . . .Two things: There will be NO Joshua-Wilder fight if Parker defeats Anthony -and- The other half of such a fight is still 100% controlled by Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle. Hearn has no control over that side . . . .thus he is not in control at all.
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actjac wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 12:37
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 08:03
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 20:56 My question is what happens if Parker wins?. . . . Duco and Top Rank have the say with Parker. . . . and later Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle have the authority to negotiate for Wilder. None of them are slouches and certainly all have the capabilities to craft big deals. . . . .Why does Eddie Hearn think that he will have the lead?
Did you read my previous response? It answers your question in the simplest manner possible.

I'm willing to repeat myself though...

Eddie Hearn will have complete control over Parker's next bout if he manages to upset AJ, because the Kiwi is contractually-obliged to grant Joshua an immediate rematch.

Parker would be unable to consider facing anyone else in his very next outing, unless he received permission from AJ... and Eddie Hearn controls Joshua, so he is actually "calling the shots" by proxy.


This is what is known as a rematch clause!
The question IS:. . .So why does Eddie Hearn act as if he in control?.. .He is acting like its his call to determine the terms of a Wilder-Joshua fight. . . .Two things: There will be NO Joshua-Wilder fight if Parker defeats Anthony -and- The other half of such a fight is still 100% controlled by Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle. Hearn has no control over that side . . . .thus he is not in control at all.
Because of the contract along with AJ being the A side.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 13:00
actjac wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 12:37
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 08:03
Did you read my previous response? It answers your question in the simplest manner possible.

I'm willing to repeat myself though...

Eddie Hearn will have complete control over Parker's next bout if he manages to upset AJ, because the Kiwi is contractually-obliged to grant Joshua an immediate rematch.

Parker would be unable to consider facing anyone else in his very next outing, unless he received permission from AJ... and Eddie Hearn controls Joshua, so he is actually "calling the shots" by proxy.


This is what is known as a rematch clause!
The question IS:. . .So why does Eddie Hearn act as if he in control?.. .He is acting like its his call to determine the terms of a Wilder-Joshua fight. . . .Two things: There will be NO Joshua-Wilder fight if Parker defeats Anthony -and- The other half of such a fight is still 100% controlled by Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle. Hearn has no control over that side . . . .thus he is not in control at all.
Because of the contract along with AJ being the A side.
I'm glad you've responded this way, because the lunatic that has some sort of vendetta against Eddie Hearn doesn't seem to understand what a rematch clause means! :TU:
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Taansend wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 09:39
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Mar 2018, 08:03
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 20:56 My question is what happens if Parker wins?. . . . Duco and Top Rank have the say with Parker. . . . and later Al Haymon and Shelly Finkle have the authority to negotiate for Wilder. None of them are slouches and certainly all have the capabilities to craft big deals. . . . .Why does Eddie Hearn think that he will have the lead?
Did you read my previous response? It answers your question in the simplest manner possible.
:lol:
Is seventeen words not concise enough for you?
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Hearn is a clever businessman.

He always adds something to a contract. When Indongo fought Burns. Hearn inserted a clause if he won he would have options on his next fight (which was the undisputed fight)..

Thing with AJ right now, he'a the A Side against any HW today. Even if he loses, he'll still have some pull.
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Eddie is always planning ahead.
I'm sure he has/had big plans for Gamal- up until Gavin beat him.
Did anyone see Eddie's face after that fight? Oh boy, he didn't look very happy :OhYes:
Where some promoters deal only with the fighters, or the fighters and their teams- Eddie has TV deals, fighters, trainers and venue options in the UK and tentative deals in the US.
He brings a lot more to the table when negotiating fights, hence he often gets the deal he wants for his fighters and his perceived career plans for them.
Just think back to AJ Wlad how he put together a 90,000 event. Got the mozzie mayor on board, extra trains and buses, police etc etc.
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Eddie Hearn has become the number 1 boxing promoter in the world, but he needed AJ to do it the same way Don King needed Ali and Tyson. His rivals will no doubt attempt to break that relationship (or pray for burnout!).

He seems to have learnt all the tricks plus some from his dad and most of his gambles have paid off, but even more importantly the fighters seem to believe in him. When fighters lose the trust of their promoters all kinds of issues emerge out of the woodwork. With Hearn and his straight talking style there are few contradictions to be seen. That alone is huge achievement for any promoter.

He seems to care about what is good for the sport (ie not just in it for a quick buck) and his recent comments about the importance of random drug testing are to the point.

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