Scott Quigg - missed the weight

[TheLeprechaun]

Looks like Quigg is going to get starched here. He can't keep fighting like this surely. 3 rounds in and Quigg is coming forward like a man possessed, taking hooks from Valdez.

I think Quigg is traumatized from giving up the first 8 rounds to Frampton and is starting fast in fights now.

[jamamb]

116-112 valdez for me, got hit a bunch, rocked a few times, and struggled as usual , but his speed gave him an edge in enough rounds and his combos landed well. quiggs defense was basically just to crouch down with his hands at his side

quigg with busted nose and eye, valdez with lots of blood from the mouth (jaw busted?)

oh ya valdez won ud btw

[TheLeprechaun]

Good and bad performance by Quigg.

Showed his heart, toughness and some decent skills to get inside.

But I felt sorry for the lad at times in there. You could see that he was limited and trying his best and just not good enough. There was something sad about that. Maybe because he was trying so hard.

At the end of the day, he has an exciting style and the americans will be keen to get him out again.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Was a good scrap. 116-112 Valdez for me too... gets hit way too much though and for his last few fights been in a war. This was his toughest though and it was a voluntary. You don't take a voluntary like this unless you're confident you're going to win..

Quigg did wella lot of the rounds, especially 5.. but Valdez always did more with his speedy combinations..

Quigg has a lot left to give. Back to the gym for him..

With his confidence, Valdez can probably beat all the featherweights out there.

I'm just not sure how long he'll stay champion with the anount of punishment he takes. He said he wants others champions.

[MightyWarrior]

First time with a Brit fighter I’ve really wanted the other guy to win. Looked like a lightweight v a feather in there, and hearing that Scott, after missing the weight, was actually a welterweight in there, it would have been a travesty if he’d won. Because Quigg looked the stronger in there, hurt and banged up Valdez too.

[smiling assassin]

First time with a Brit fighter I’ve really wanted the other guy to win. Looked like a lightweight v a feather in there, and hearing that Scott, after missing the weight, was actually a welterweight in there, it would have been a travesty if he’d won. Because Quigg looked the stronger in there, hurt and banged up Valdez too.

Came on here to write what you had all ready written. I hope Valdez got paid well for that, voluntary or not Quigg didn't even try to make weight dog move that

[Boxerbeetle]

How was the fight? My recording didn’t work properly, ffs

[jamamb]

pretty decent, each some good shots and rocked the other. nice action with valdez usually being a step ahead mainly due to being much faster, but once again taking punishment.

valdez has really nice talent and can look great at times, blazing speed with power, but even limited slow opponents end up giving him issues. his defense aint great and he does get hurt

not the type you expect a long peak out of

[Jackson328]

Let's be absolutely clear about this. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the Quigg camp would have known during the last week of training, possibly longer, that he had no chance of making the weight. When that's known all they can do is get down as far as possible so it doesn't look too bad.
Yes they'll lose some money and they can't win a title but I'd love to know Quigg's weight by fight time. 10 stones ( 140 pounds) anyone ???? So is it a fair fight anymore ?

They should fine the boxer ( and his camp, manager, promoter etc) who is overweight proportionately for every ounce over and give it to the opponent who made weight, then cancel the bout. It's every bit as bad as peds this BS, an overweight fighter should not be allowed to fight, end of. As someone said, we have weight classes for a reason so why should Quigg be allowed in the ring to endanger his opponent when he failed to meet his contractual obligation to weigh in at the designated limit? If people want to cut corners in order to compete at a lower weight then thats their choice but when they fail and come in over the limit it should not be the opponent who made weight or the paying customers who suffer as a consequence.

Bit extreme. if Quigg is 'endangering him' by being 3 pounds over... they should 100% cancel the AJ/Parker fight now!

He wasn't endangering by weighing in 3lbs over but in doing so he made little or no attempt to make the limit and came in as a welterweight by fight time. Thats dangerous and grossly unfair on the defending champion.

[TheLeprechaun]

I don't buy the "it just wouldnt come off" line from Quigg. If thats the case then whats to stop him coming in 3 pounds overweight in future fights?

[coneye]

Doubt very much it was intentional , maybee a bit unprofesional , but he paid the price , he had to forfeit 20% of his purse , which i read somewhere was 100 grand so thats 20 grand for the sake of 3 pnd , Plus the belt if he had won , 3 lb cost him a lot ,, Regards the end weight there would'nt of been much in it ,

People are talking like Scott went away and turned into a welter weight , Valdez also went away and rehydrated ,, they would of walked in the ring similar in weight , If Scott does it again , he needs to go up in weight .

[Ruthless-RKO]

Doubt very much it was intentional , maybee a bit unprofesional , but he paid the price , he had to forfeit 20% of his purse , which i read somewhere was 100 grand so thats 20 grand for the sake of 3 pnd , Plus the belt if he had won , 3 lb cost him a lot ,, Regards the end weight there would'nt of been much in it ,

People are talking like Scott went away and turned into a welter weight , Valdez also went away and rehydrated ,, they would of walked in the ring similar in weight , If Scott does it again , he needs to go up in weight .

$100k was his official purse where the fine was taken from.. his overall purse was over $500k.. more than Valdez who got around $450k

[Deno1986]

Doubt very much it was intentional , maybee a bit unprofesional , but he paid the price , he had to forfeit 20% of his purse , which i read somewhere was 100 grand so thats 20 grand for the sake of 3 pnd , Plus the belt if he had won , 3 lb cost him a lot ,, Regards the end weight there would'nt of been much in it ,

People are talking like Scott went away and turned into a welter weight , Valdez also went away and rehydrated ,, they would of walked in the ring similar in weight , If Scott does it again , he needs to go up in weight .

$100k was his official purse where the fine was taken from.. his overall purse was over $500k.. more than Valdez who got around $450k

How did Quigg get a bigger purse than the champion?

[rio]

Doubt very much it was intentional , maybee a bit unprofesional , but he paid the price , he had to forfeit 20% of his purse , which i read somewhere was 100 grand so thats 20 grand for the sake of 3 pnd , Plus the belt if he had won , 3 lb cost him a lot ,, Regards the end weight there would'nt of been much in it ,

People are talking like Scott went away and turned into a welter weight , Valdez also went away and rehydrated ,, they would of walked in the ring similar in weight , If Scott does it again , he needs to go up in weight .

$100k was his official purse where the fine was taken from.. his overall purse was over $500k.. more than Valdez who got around $450k

no way was his purse anywhere near 500k. Top Rank paid him 100k.......do you really think skysports paid 400k for the rights for a fight at 4am with Scott Quigg headlining?

[ProMayhem]

Doubt very much it was intentional , maybee a bit unprofesional , but he paid the price , he had to forfeit 20% of his purse , which i read somewhere was 100 grand so thats 20 grand for the sake of 3 pnd , Plus the belt if he had won , 3 lb cost him a lot ,, Regards the end weight there would'nt of been much in it ,

People are talking like Scott went away and turned into a welter weight , Valdez also went away and rehydrated ,, they would of walked in the ring similar in weight , If Scott does it again , he needs to go up in weight .

$100k was his official purse where the fine was taken from.. his overall purse was over $500k.. more than Valdez who got around $450k

no way was his purse anywhere near 500k. Top Rank paid him 100k.......do you really think skysports paid 400k for the rights for a fight at 4am with Scott Quigg headlining?

Hearn said that he was surprised that they wanted the fight and was surprised they paid quigg what he wanted! So maybe the 500K is about right.

[rio]

They reported his purse it was 100k

[coneye]

They reported his purse it was 100k

100K is what i read , but like a lot of internet news , you can probably take it with a pinch of salt , I actually thought he would be on more than that .

[Ruthless-RKO]

$100k was his official purse where the fine was taken from.. his overall purse was over $500k.. more than Valdez who got around $450k

no way was his purse anywhere near 500k. Top Rank paid him 100k.......do you really think skysports paid 400k for the rights for a fight at 4am with Scott Quigg headlining?

Hearn said that he was surprised that they wanted the fight and was surprised they paid quigg what he wanted! So maybe the 500K is about right.

Yeh, $100k was his official purse. He is contracted to Sky as well, so his purse was higher.. It;s kinda like Cleverley's official purse vs. Jack was also $100k, but he got paid way more than that..

Dan Rafael wrote:

By rule, the California commission fined Quigg 20 percent of his official $100,000 purse with half going to Valdez (23-0, 19 KOs), 27, a two-time Mexican Olympian, and the other half going to the commission.

Quigg, however, will make far more than the $80,000 he'd be left with. The package for the Quigg side is closer to $500,000 plus even more money for British television rights.

Valdez, who will add $10,000 from Quigg's purse to his career-high $420,000 purse, brushed off Quigg's weight issues.

[danconnollyeire]

They should fine the boxer ( and his camp, manager, promoter etc) who is overweight proportionately for every ounce over and give it to the opponent who made weight, then cancel the bout. It's every bit as bad as peds this BS, an overweight fighter should not be allowed to fight, end of. As someone said, we have weight classes for a reason so why should Quigg be allowed in the ring to endanger his opponent when he failed to meet his contractual obligation to weigh in at the designated limit? If people want to cut corners in order to compete at a lower weight then thats their choice but when they fail and come in over the limit it should not be the opponent who made weight or the paying customers who suffer as a consequence.

Bit extreme. if Quigg is 'endangering him' by being 3 pounds over... they should 100% cancel the AJ/Parker fight now!

He wasn't endangering by weighing in 3lbs over but in doing so he made little or no attempt to make the limit and came in as a welterweight by fight time. Thats dangerous and grossly unfair on the defending champion.

AJ has been 15lbs heavier than Parker has been in fights. That's over 2 weight divisions. If your argument is that Quigg's size is dangerous for his opponent, then they should do away with HW boxing

[dalcumly]

You have to understand that a few pounds in the lower weights has a huge impact on punch power and punch resistance. That's why ' prospects ' at the lower weights will often reject fights with journeymen if they arrive at the venue weighing too much. At heavyweight extra weight usually only means being slower. You just have to look at Wilders weight and how he fights. It's all speed and movement.

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You have to understand that a few pounds in the lower weights has a huge impact on punch power and punch resistance. That's why ' prospects ' at the lower weights will often reject fights with journeymen if they arrive at the venue weighing too much. At heavyweight extra weight usually only means being slower. You just have to look at Wilders weight and how he fights. It's all speed and movement.

This is true. At heavyweight, there comes a point where extra weight stops meaning more power, due to the reduced speed punches can be thrown at, and a point where the reduction in mobility becomes more of a disadvantage than any increase in power that is there.

At lower weights, it doesn't work like that. At fighter weighing 140 can be just as quick/mobile as a fighter weighing 130, but will have a very noticeable advantage in strength, punching power and resistance.