Do you think we will see a 31-32 y/o AJ vs a 35-36 y/o Wilder ?

[KiwiRider]

Wilder is still blowing hot air. There has been no negotiation between his managent and Matchroom.
If he really wanted the fight, all it would take is one phone call to Big Bob and things would be set in motion.
Mouthing off to journalists isn't how you get a fight made...

Speculation

No. Eddie has come out and states that there has been no negotiation for this fight. There was a meeting between poppa Hearn and a bloke with a Sheila's name where they discussed old times. Nothing has been done so far. No request for a meeting to discuss the fight has come from Wilders team. Wilder is blowing smoke up your arse and your sucking it up like a rampant Hoover.

[apollo creed]

Wilder is still blowing hot air. There has been no negotiation between his managent and Matchroom.
If he really wanted the fight, all it would take is one phone call to Big Bob and things would be set in motion.
Mouthing off to journalists isn't how you get a fight made...

Speculation

No. Eddie has come out and states that there has been no negotiation for this fight. There was a meeting between poppa Hearn and a bloke with a Sheila's name where they discussed old times. Nothing has been done so far. No request for a meeting to discuss the fight has come from Wilders team. Wilder is blowing smoke up your arse and your sucking it up like a rampant Hoover.

[oogiebe]

Wilder is still blowing hot air. There has been no negotiation between his managent and Matchroom.
If he really wanted the fight, all it would take is one phone call to Big Bob and things would be set in motion.
Mouthing off to journalists isn't how you get a fight made...

Speculation

No. Eddie has come out and states that there has been no negotiation for this fight. There was a meeting between poppa Hearn and a bloke with a Sheila's name where they discussed old times. Nothing has been done so far. No request for a meeting to discuss the fight has come from Wilders team. Wilder is blowing smoke up your arse and your sucking it up like a rampant Hoover.

*COUGH* *COUGH*

[Kalan]

We're going to see the fight next.... Right after Joshua stops Parker negotiations will begin in earnest....

Wilder has already beaten a top level opponent so it's the most logical Heavyweight Fight that can be made.

[DrDuke]

If Joshua wins Parker, then faces Povetkin and also wins, while Wilder remains a champ in this time, I guess, they will finally fight each other. So, it looks very possible to be at the end of 2018 or in 2019.

[keirw]

The fight could happen this summer at Wembly and make both men a fortune.

Or it could happen in Vegas late this year/early next year and make both men even more money.

For the fight to happen in Vegas AJ needs to foght in America at least once to get his name a bit more known.

If it happens next it will be at Wembley, if not, I imagine AJ fights Miller in New York in the summer.

We will probably see Wilder face Povetkin or Pulev, possibly even on that same card, to clear away one of AJs mandatories so the big one can happen next winter.

[Lackeos]

My guess is that the time will come in 2019 or 2020. I don't think it will be as overcooked as Mayweather - Pacquiao was. The fact that they went after Parker and Ortiz recently tells me that they are looking to both secure elite status in the short term. In the long term, the only two options are super fight, or collect decent checks will avoiding each other. Once the super fight is worth $100 million+, I don't think they will turn it down.

[jockpunk]

Joshua should fight miller (assuming he beats parker) and Wilder should fight the winner of whyte/brown later this summer. Next fight after that could be a ppv between the two. No reason why that couldn't be the plan moving forward. All of those fights are makeable and would help build hype for a ppv.

[Enlightened-One]

Deontay Wilder seems adamant about wanting a 50-50 split of the total fight purse in order to face AJ.

Even with his recent concession to agreeing to take a 40-60 share that favoured of Joshua, it came with the stipulation that he had to receive 60% in the rematch.

Well that’s the same as wanting 50-50 for two bouts with AJ.

Nobody from team Wilder has attempted to make the fight, but Eddie Hearn and his dad has at least met with Deontay’s representatives.

I can’t help thinking that Eddie Hearn wants AJ to sign an exclusive contract with HBO, but he can’t do that until he captures the WBC title from Showtime’s Deontay Wilder, which is the reason why I feel the American’s payday demands are unreasonably high. ‘The Bronze Bomber’ is probably trying to hold Eddie Hearn to ransom.

Deontay Wilder refused Eddie Hearn’s $4m offer to face Dillian Whyte, demanding $7m instead. However, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ eventually agreed to face Luis Ortiz for a paltry $2.1m. Prior to that, Wilder’s career-high purse was only $1.5m.

If we don’t see a bout between Joshua-Wilder before the end of the year, it’ll be because the American’s payday demands are exorbitantly high.

It’s entirely possible that we may never get to see these two guys fight if AJ loses patience and agrees to sign an exclusive contract with HBO (as per the Kovalev-Stevenson situation).

I don’t think the Brit needs Deontay Wilder in order to keep selling-out stadiums and maintaining his PPV revenue in the UK… and with HBO having far more subscribers than Showtime, Joshua could eventually be considered a bigger name on US shores than ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

[oogiebe]

Deontay Wilder seems adamant about wanting a 50-50 split of the total fight purse in order to face AJ.

Even with his recent concession to agreeing to take a 40-60 share that favoured of Joshua, it came with the stipulation that he had to receive 60% in the rematch.

Well that’s the same as wanting 50-50 for two bouts with AJ.

Nobody from team Wilder has attempted to make the fight, but Eddie Hearn and his dad has at least met with Deontay’s representatives.

I can’t help thinking that Eddie Hearn wants AJ to sign an exclusive contract with HBO, but he can’t do that until he captures the WBC title from Showtime’s Deontay Wilder, which is the reason why I feel the American’s payday demands are unreasonably high. ‘The Bronze Bomber’ is probably trying to hold Eddie Hearn to ransom.

Deontay Wilder refused Eddie Hearn’s $4m offer to face Dillian Whyte, demanding $7m instead. However, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ eventually agreed to face Luis Ortiz for a paltry $2.1m. Prior to that, Wilder’s career-high purse was only $1.5m.

If we don’t see a bout between Joshua-Wilder before the end of the year, it’ll be because the American’s payday demands are exorbitantly high.

It’s entirely possible that we may never get to see these two guys fight if AJ loses patience and agrees to sign an exclusive contract with HBO (as per the Kovalev-Stevenson situation).

I don’t think the Brit needs Deontay Wilder in order to keep selling-out stadiums and maintaining his PPV revenue in the UK… and with HBO having far more subscribers than Showtime, Joshua could eventually be considered a bigger name on US shores than ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

I agree based on the business of boxing. I hope, though, that the sport rises above the economics and does the right thing. Joshua needs this fight for a true all-time ranking. (not saying he'd win).

[tiny_acres]

Deontay Wilder seems adamant about wanting a 50-50 split of the total fight purse in order to face AJ.

Even with his recent concession to agreeing to take a 40-60 share that favoured of Joshua, it came with the stipulation that he had to receive 60% in the rematch.

Well that’s the same as wanting 50-50 for two bouts with AJ.

Nobody from team Wilder has attempted to make the fight, but Eddie Hearn and his dad has at least met with Deontay’s representatives.

I can’t help thinking that Eddie Hearn wants AJ to sign an exclusive contract with HBO, but he can’t do that until he captures the WBC title from Showtime’s Deontay Wilder, which is the reason why I feel the American’s payday demands are unreasonably high. ‘The Bronze Bomber’ is probably trying to hold Eddie Hearn to ransom.

Deontay Wilder refused Eddie Hearn’s $4m offer to face Dillian Whyte, demanding $7m instead. However, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ eventually agreed to face Luis Ortiz for a paltry $2.1m. Prior to that, Wilder’s career-high purse was only $1.5m.

If we don’t see a bout between Joshua-Wilder before the end of the year, it’ll be because the American’s payday demands are exorbitantly high.

It’s entirely possible that we may never get to see these two guys fight if AJ loses patience and agrees to sign an exclusive contract with HBO (as per the Kovalev-Stevenson situation).

I don’t think the Brit needs Deontay Wilder in order to keep selling-out stadiums and maintaining his PPV revenue in the UK… and with HBO having far more subscribers than Showtime, Joshua could eventually be considered a bigger name on US shores than ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

So Front at has openly said he would take 40/60 split.
And if he wins he'd want 60/40.
How is this unreasonable?
Do you not think that at that point he'd be
41-0. He would also be undisputed champ.

Would that not justify getting the lion's share of the purse in the rematch?

[Enlightened-One]

Deontay Wilder seems adamant about wanting a 50-50 split of the total fight purse in order to face AJ.

Even with his recent concession to agreeing to take a 40-60 share that favoured of Joshua, it came with the stipulation that he had to receive 60% in the rematch.

Well that’s the same as wanting 50-50 for two bouts with AJ.

Nobody from team Wilder has attempted to make the fight, but Eddie Hearn and his dad has at least met with Deontay’s representatives.

I can’t help thinking that Eddie Hearn wants AJ to sign an exclusive contract with HBO, but he can’t do that until he captures the WBC title from Showtime’s Deontay Wilder, which is the reason why I feel the American’s payday demands are unreasonably high. ‘The Bronze Bomber’ is probably trying to hold Eddie Hearn to ransom.

Deontay Wilder refused Eddie Hearn’s $4m offer to face Dillian Whyte, demanding $7m instead. However, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ eventually agreed to face Luis Ortiz for a paltry $2.1m. Prior to that, Wilder’s career-high purse was only $1.5m.

If we don’t see a bout between Joshua-Wilder before the end of the year, it’ll be because the American’s payday demands are exorbitantly high.

It’s entirely possible that we may never get to see these two guys fight if AJ loses patience and agrees to sign an exclusive contract with HBO (as per the Kovalev-Stevenson situation).

I don’t think the Brit needs Deontay Wilder in order to keep selling-out stadiums and maintaining his PPV revenue in the UK… and with HBO having far more subscribers than Showtime, Joshua could eventually be considered a bigger name on US shores than ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

So Front at has openly said he would take 40/60 split.
And if he wins he'd want 60/40.
How is this unreasonable?
Do you not think that at that point he'd be
41-0. He would also be undisputed champ.

Would that not justify getting the lion's share of the purse in the rematch?

My argument is from an economic perspective, in the context of AJ’s bouts against the likes of Klitschko, Takam & Parker. The Brit is the draw here. He is bringing all the money to the table, not Wilder.

Joseph Parker is receiving less than 35% of the purse split for his bout against AJ and the Kiwi usually commands similar paydays than what Deontay Wilder does, but for some strange reason, people believe the American deserves almost even parity with the Brit.

Put it this way, let’s assume that the total combined purse pot for a potential Joshua-Wilder bout would be in the region of $36m.

If Wilder was paid only 25% of that figure, he would receive $9m and this would still be $6.9m more than what the American received to face Luis Ortiz, which is 329% (or 4.3 times) more than his career-high payday of $2.1m (prior to facing Luis Ortiz, Doeontay's career-high purse was only $1.5m).

Joshua’s total income from the Parker bout, including promotional revenue, is said to be in the region of $20m (the same amount he earned facing Klitschko & Takam), with Parker earning roughly $9m.

Are you suggesting that Anthony Joshua should take a considerable pay cut in order to satisfy Deontay Wilder’s lofty payday demands?

Let’s put try to summarise the situation, shall we? AJ typically earns $20m per fight.

So assuming the Brit won’t take a pay cut and Wilder wants a 50-50 split, Deontay is essentially asking for $20m per fight to share the ring with Anthony Joshua.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has previously received the following paydays:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

Not only does the Brit bring far more money to the table than the American does, but he’ll likely hold three of the four main titles and he’ll also possess the better resume.

[tiny_acres]

Deontay Wilder seems adamant about wanting a 50-50 split of the total fight purse in order to face AJ.

Even with his recent concession to agreeing to take a 40-60 share that favoured of Joshua, it came with the stipulation that he had to receive 60% in the rematch.

Well that’s the same as wanting 50-50 for two bouts with AJ.

Nobody from team Wilder has attempted to make the fight, but Eddie Hearn and his dad has at least met with Deontay’s representatives.

I can’t help thinking that Eddie Hearn wants AJ to sign an exclusive contract with HBO, but he can’t do that until he captures the WBC title from Showtime’s Deontay Wilder, which is the reason why I feel the American’s payday demands are unreasonably high. ‘The Bronze Bomber’ is probably trying to hold Eddie Hearn to ransom.

Deontay Wilder refused Eddie Hearn’s $4m offer to face Dillian Whyte, demanding $7m instead. However, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ eventually agreed to face Luis Ortiz for a paltry $2.1m. Prior to that, Wilder’s career-high purse was only $1.5m.

If we don’t see a bout between Joshua-Wilder before the end of the year, it’ll be because the American’s payday demands are exorbitantly high.

It’s entirely possible that we may never get to see these two guys fight if AJ loses patience and agrees to sign an exclusive contract with HBO (as per the Kovalev-Stevenson situation).

I don’t think the Brit needs Deontay Wilder in order to keep selling-out stadiums and maintaining his PPV revenue in the UK… and with HBO having far more subscribers than Showtime, Joshua could eventually be considered a bigger name on US shores than ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

So Front at has openly said he would take 40/60 split.
And if he wins he'd want 60/40.
How is this unreasonable?
Do you not think that at that point he'd be
41-0. He would also be undisputed champ.

Would that not justify getting the lion's share of the purse in the rematch?

My argument is from an economic perspective, in the context of AJ’s bouts against the likes of Klitschko, Takam & Parker. The Brit is the draw here. He is bringing all the money to the table, not Wilder.

Joseph Parker is receiving less than 35% of the purse split for his bout against AJ and the Kiwi usually commands similar paydays than what Deontay Wilder does, but for some strange reason, people believe the American deserves almost even parity with the Brit.

Put it this way, let’s assume that the total combined purse pot for a potential Joshua-Wilder bout would be in the region of $36m.

If Wilder was paid only 25% of that figure, he would receive $9m and this would still be $6.9m more than what the American received to face Luis Ortiz, which is 329% (or 4.3 times) more than his career-high payday of $2.1m (prior to facing Luis Ortiz, Doeontay's career-high purse was only $1.5m).

Joshua’s total income from the Parker bout, including promotional revenue, is said to be in the region of $20m (the same amount he earned facing Klitschko & Takam), with Parker earning roughly $9m.

Are you suggesting that Anthony Joshua should take a considerable pay cut in order to satisfy Deontay Wilder’s lofty payday demands?

Let’s put try to summarise the situation, shall we? AJ typically earns $20m per fight.

So assuming the Brit won’t take a pay cut and Wilder wants a 50-50 split, Deontay is essentially asking for $20m per fight to share the ring with Anthony Joshua.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has previously received the following paydays:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

Not only does the Brit bring far more money to the table than the American does, but he’ll likely hold three of the four main titles and he’ll also possess the better resume.

This fight is the largest fight in boxing today.
60/40 gets the fight made.
As long as Joshua wins he keeps making the big bucks.
But if wilder wins then he deserves the larger portion in the rematch. And any same non biased person would agree

[oogiebe]

So Front at has openly said he would take 40/60 split.
And if he wins he'd want 60/40.
How is this unreasonable?
Do you not think that at that point he'd be
41-0. He would also be undisputed champ.

Would that not justify getting the lion's share of the purse in the rematch?

My argument is from an economic perspective, in the context of AJ’s bouts against the likes of Klitschko, Takam & Parker. The Brit is the draw here. He is bringing all the money to the table, not Wilder.

Joseph Parker is receiving less than 35% of the purse split for his bout against AJ and the Kiwi usually commands similar paydays than what Deontay Wilder does, but for some strange reason, people believe the American deserves almost even parity with the Brit.

Put it this way, let’s assume that the total combined purse pot for a potential Joshua-Wilder bout would be in the region of $36m.

If Wilder was paid only 25% of that figure, he would receive $9m and this would still be $6.9m more than what the American received to face Luis Ortiz, which is 329% (or 4.3 times) more than his career-high payday of $2.1m (prior to facing Luis Ortiz, Doeontay's career-high purse was only $1.5m).

Joshua’s total income from the Parker bout, including promotional revenue, is said to be in the region of $20m (the same amount he earned facing Klitschko & Takam), with Parker earning roughly $9m.

Are you suggesting that Anthony Joshua should take a considerable pay cut in order to satisfy Deontay Wilder’s lofty payday demands?

Let’s put try to summarise the situation, shall we? AJ typically earns $20m per fight.

So assuming the Brit won’t take a pay cut and Wilder wants a 50-50 split, Deontay is essentially asking for $20m per fight to share the ring with Anthony Joshua.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has previously received the following paydays:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

Not only does the Brit bring far more money to the table than the American does, but he’ll likely hold three of the four main titles and he’ll also possess the better resume.

This fight is the largest fight in boxing today.
60/40 gets the fight made.
As long as Joshua wins he keeps making the big bucks.
But if wilder wins then he deserves the larger portion in the rematch. And any same non biased person would agree

Wilder fan says, "it makes perfect sense." (that would be me)

[tiny_acres]

My argument is from an economic perspective, in the context of AJ’s bouts against the likes of Klitschko, Takam & Parker. The Brit is the draw here. He is bringing all the money to the table, not Wilder.

Joseph Parker is receiving less than 35% of the purse split for his bout against AJ and the Kiwi usually commands similar paydays than what Deontay Wilder does, but for some strange reason, people believe the American deserves almost even parity with the Brit.

Put it this way, let’s assume that the total combined purse pot for a potential Joshua-Wilder bout would be in the region of $36m.

If Wilder was paid only 25% of that figure, he would receive $9m and this would still be $6.9m more than what the American received to face Luis Ortiz, which is 329% (or 4.3 times) more than his career-high payday of $2.1m (prior to facing Luis Ortiz, Doeontay's career-high purse was only $1.5m).

Joshua’s total income from the Parker bout, including promotional revenue, is said to be in the region of $20m (the same amount he earned facing Klitschko & Takam), with Parker earning roughly $9m.

Are you suggesting that Anthony Joshua should take a considerable pay cut in order to satisfy Deontay Wilder’s lofty payday demands?

Let’s put try to summarise the situation, shall we? AJ typically earns $20m per fight.

So assuming the Brit won’t take a pay cut and Wilder wants a 50-50 split, Deontay is essentially asking for $20m per fight to share the ring with Anthony Joshua.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has previously received the following paydays:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

Not only does the Brit bring far more money to the table than the American does, but he’ll likely hold three of the four main titles and he’ll also possess the better resume.

This fight is the largest fight in boxing today.
60/40 gets the fight made.
As long as Joshua wins he keeps making the big bucks.
But if wilder wins then he deserves the larger portion in the rematch. And any same non biased person would agree

Wilder fan says, "it makes perfect sense." (that would be me)

It's only logical. If Wilder beats Joshua he becomes a major draw and Joshua will take a hit in his finances. It only makes sense

[Enlightened-One]

This fight is the largest fight in boxing today.
60/40 gets the fight made.
As long as Joshua wins he keeps making the big bucks.
But if wilder wins then he deserves the larger portion in the rematch. And any same non biased person would agree

A fighter like Deontay Wilder, who’s average earnings are less than $1.4m per fight for his last seven world title defences, cannot seriously expect to receive potentially $40m for a two-fight deal to face Anthony Joshua.

He doesn’t even deserve $10m for a one-of fight, especially considering the fact that it’s the Brits’ fan-base alone that would be funding this bout.

AJ should keep clear of Wilder if the American’s payday demands remain as-is.

The combined total for Deontay’s next ten bouts would likely be less than what Anthony Joshua is being paid to face Joseph Parker on the 31st March, 2018.

[tiny_acres]

This fight is the largest fight in boxing today.
60/40 gets the fight made.
As long as Joshua wins he keeps making the big bucks.
But if wilder wins then he deserves the larger portion in the rematch. And any same non biased person would agree

A fighter like Deontay Wilder, who’s average earnings are less than $1.4m per fight for his last seven world title defences, cannot seriously expect to receive potentially $40m for a two-fight deal to face Anthony Joshua.

He doesn’t even deserve $10m for a one-of fight, especially considering the fact that it’s the Brits’ fan-base alone that would be funding this bout.

There is no arguing with your bias.
I've stated my opinion and I believe the majority on here would agree with it.
Have a good day my friend.

[oogiebe]

This fight is the largest fight in boxing today.
60/40 gets the fight made.
As long as Joshua wins he keeps making the big bucks.
But if wilder wins then he deserves the larger portion in the rematch. And any same non biased person would agree

A fighter like Deontay Wilder, who’s average earnings are less than $1.4m per fight for his last seven world title defences, cannot seriously expect to receive potentially $40m for a two-fight deal to face Anthony Joshua.

He doesn’t even deserve $10m for a one-of fight, especially considering the fact that it’s the Brits’ fan-base alone that would be funding this bout.

There is no arguing with your bias.
I've stated my opinion and I believe the majority on here would agree with it.
Have a good day my friend.

I agree!

[Enlightened-One]

AJ should keep clear of Wilder if the American’s payday demands remain as-is.

The combined total earnings for Deontay’s next ten bouts would likely be less than what Anthony Joshua is being paid to face Joseph Parker on the 31st March, 2018.

The combined total of Deontay Wilder’s earnings for the following world title fights is less than $10m:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

[oogiebe]

AJ should keep clear of Wilder if the American’s payday demands remain as-is.

The combined total for Deontay’s next ten bouts would likely be less than what Anthony Joshua is being paid to face Joseph Parker on the 31st March, 2018.

No one talks about how much more AJ would make merely by fighting Wilder. He adds a ton of revenue. Should get 40%

[Enlightened-One]

AJ should keep clear of Wilder if the American’s payday demands remain as-is.

The combined total for Deontay’s next ten bouts would likely be less than what Anthony Joshua is being paid to face Joseph Parker on the 31st March, 2018.

No one talks about how much more AJ would make merely by fighting Wilder. He adds a ton of revenue. Should get 40%

The combined total of Deontay Wilder’s earnings for the following seven world title fights is less than $10m:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

'The Bronze Bomber' doesn't have a fan base on US shores. His average purse per fight is less than $1.4m, which is a smaller payday than many high-profile 147lb-ers earn.

[oogiebe]

AJ should keep clear of Wilder if the American’s payday demands remain as-is.

The combined total for Deontay’s next ten bouts would likely be less than what Anthony Joshua is being paid to face Joseph Parker on the 31st March, 2018.

No one talks about how much more AJ would make merely by fighting Wilder. He adds a ton of revenue. Should get 40%

The combined total of Deontay Wilder’s earnings for the following seven world title fights is less than $10m:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

'The Bronze Bomber' doesn't have a fan base on US shores.

That's a moot point. It's history...if you don't believe Wilder increases the revenue more than other fighters to face Joshua, then I think you're not thinking this all the way through this (politely put).

[Enlightened-One]

No one talks about how much more AJ would make merely by fighting Wilder. He adds a ton of revenue. Should get 40%

The combined total of Deontay Wilder’s earnings for the following seven world title fights is less than $10m:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

'The Bronze Bomber' doesn't have a fan base on US shores.

That's a moot point. It's history...if you don't believe Wilder increases the revenue more than other fighters to face Joshua, then I think you're not thinking this all the way through this (politely put).

Where's the money coming from? A magical tree? Mainstream casuals in the UK and the US don't know who he is.

Deontay Wilder doesn't have a fan base. Most high-profile welterweights earn more than he does.

You’re ignoring these numbers, because they don’t adhere to your preferred narrative, but they’re important, because they represent the commercial worth in the real-world… and Wilder has very little.

[oogiebe]

The combined total of Deontay Wilder’s earnings for the following seven world title fights is less than $10m:

• Gerald Washington = $900K
• Chris Arreola = $1.4m
• Artur Szpilka = $1.5m
• Johann Duhaupas = $1.4m
• Bermane Stiverne I = $1m
• Bermane Stiverne II = $1.4m
• Luis Ortiz = $2.1m

'The Bronze Bomber' doesn't have a fan base on US shores.

That's a moot point. It's history...if you don't believe Wilder increases the revenue more than other fighters to face Joshua, then I think you're not thinking this all the way through this (politely put).

Where's the money coming from? A magical tree? Mainstream casuals in the UK and the US don't know who he is.

Deontay Wilder doesn't have a fan base. Most high-profile welterweights earn more than he does.

You’re ignoring numbers, because they don’t adhere to your preferred narrative, but they’re important, because they represent the commercial worth in the real-world… and Wilder has very little.

Oh I see...So you'd pay more to see Joshua Parker than Joshua Wilder...go ahead answer.

[Enlightened-One]

That's a moot point. It's history...if you don't believe Wilder increases the revenue more than other fighters to face Joshua, then I think you're not thinking this all the way through this (politely put).

Where's the money coming from? A magical tree? Mainstream casuals in the UK and the US don't know who he is.

Deontay Wilder doesn't have a fan base. Most high-profile welterweights earn more than he does.

You’re ignoring numbers, because they don’t adhere to your preferred narrative, but they’re important, because they represent the commercial worth in the real-world… and Wilder has very little.

Oh I see...So you'd pay more to see Joshua Parker than Joshua Wilder...go ahead answer.

A bout between Joshua-Wilder would be AJ’s third title unification bout – nothing out of the ordinary for casual boxing observers in the UK. And Deontay Wilder isn’t more popular to the UK mainstream casuals than Klitschko or Parker is.

Mainstream casuals in the UK wouldn’t pay more to see a Joshua-Wilder fight than a Joshua-Parker bout or even Joshua-Klitschko.

Deontay’s name wasn’t big enough in the US to warrant Showtime covering the Wilder-Ortiz bout as a PPV event, which is the reason why the American typically commands fight purses that are 14.3 times smaller than AJ's.