Favourite Fighters In each of the following divisions

[oogiebe]

Heavyweight: Lennox Lewis
Lt Heavy: Mathew Saad Muhamud
Middleweight: Carlos Monzon
Welterweight: Jose Napoles
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Featherweight: Alexis Arquello
Bantamweight: Ruben Oliveres

Remember these are your favorites not necessarily the best. Spelling doesn't count (that's for me).

[acehudkins]

I love your choices , i would take Zarate over Oliveres and Sanchez over Arguello , damn not by much though ! great choices on your part , people sleep on Oliveres and Napoles , saw them both live.

[acehudkins]

i have to put bob foster over matt also

[oogiebe]

I love your choices , i would take Zarate over Oliveres and Sanchez over Arguello , damn not by much though ! great choices on your part , people sleep on Oliveres and Napoles , saw them both live.

Thanks! I had trouble with Arguello over Sanchez as well as Oliveres over Carlos...

[oogiebe]

i have to put bob foster over matt also

I struggled with Foster, but I didn't see him often enough to have enjoyed him. I loved Victor Galindez and John Conteh as well.

[littlepug]

Heavy. Mike Tyson
Lt Heavy. Glen Johnson
Middle. Julian Jackson
Welter. Ray Leonard
Light. Miguel Angel Gonzales
Feather. Collin McMillan
Bantam. Orlando Canizales

[oogiebe]

Heavy. Mike Tyson
Lt Heavy. Glen Johnson
Middle. Julian Jackson
Welter. Ray Leonard
Light. Miguel Angel Gonzales
Feather. Collin McMillan
Bantam. Orlando Canizales

Almost went with Leonard, and I did love Jackson!!!

[oogiebe]

I love your choices , i would take Zarate over Oliveres and Sanchez over Arguello , damn not by much though ! great choices on your part , people sleep on Oliveres and Napoles , saw them both live.

Napoles was all class and Oliveres fought everyone and was a monster!

[acehudkins]

I love your choices , i would take Zarate over Oliveres and Sanchez over Arguello , damn not by much though ! great choices on your part , people sleep on Oliveres and Napoles , saw them both live.

Napoles was all class and Oliveres fought everyone and was a monster!

Oliveres was very fun to watch , Lupe Pintor was great and the nicest guy was Jesus Pimentel , fought Zamora and Zarate , he was an uncrowned champion

[writehooks]

Heavyweight: George Chuvalo
Light heavy: Victor Galindez
Middleweight: Carlos Monzon
Welterweight: Clyde Gray
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Featherweight: Art Hafey
Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

[SenorPipino]

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali

Light Heavyweight: Marvin Johnson

Middleweight: Marvin Hagler

Welterweight: Mantequilla Napoles

Lightweight: Mando Ramos

Featherweight: Alexis Arguello

Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

[SenorPipino]

I love your choices , i would take Zarate over Oliveres and Sanchez over Arguello , damn not by much though ! great choices on your part , people sleep on Oliveres and Napoles , saw them both live.

Napoles was all class and Oliveres fought everyone and was a monster!

Oliveres was very fun to watch , Lupe Pintor was great and the nicest guy was Jesus Pimentel , fought Zamora and Zarate , he was an uncrowned champion

I can't find any record of Jesus Pimental having fought Zarate or Zamora.

He retired before Zarate and Zamora became stars.

"Little Poison's" final fight was in 1971 when he was stopped by Olivares.

Pimental was called the "uncrowned champ" (chiefly by his manager Harry Kabakoff) but he had his chance against Olivares and failed.

[oogiebe]

Heavyweight: George Chuvalo
Light heavy: Victor Galindez
Middleweight: Carlos Monzon
Welterweight: Clyde Gray
Lightweight: Roberto Duran
Featherweight: Art Hafey
Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

Art Hafey!!!! Great call!

[oogiebe]

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali

Light Heavyweight: Marvin Johnson

Middleweight: Marvin Hagler

Welterweight: Mantequilla Napoles

Lightweight: Mando Ramos

Featherweight: Alexis Arguello

Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

Nice! Ali at number one HW is never a bad choice!

[SenorPipino]

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali

Light Heavyweight: Marvin Johnson

Middleweight: Marvin Hagler

Welterweight: Mantequilla Napoles

Lightweight: Mando Ramos

Featherweight: Alexis Arguello

Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

Nice! Ali at number one HW is never a bad choice!

Well these are all just personal preferences.

There are no wrong answers here. I think.

[oogiebe]

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali

Light Heavyweight: Marvin Johnson

Middleweight: Marvin Hagler

Welterweight: Mantequilla Napoles

Lightweight: Mando Ramos

Featherweight: Alexis Arguello

Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

Nice! Ali at number one HW is never a bad choice!

Well these are all just personal preferences.

There are no wrong answers here. I think.

Yup...personal favourites.

[oogiebe]

Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali

Light Heavyweight: Marvin Johnson

Middleweight: Marvin Hagler

Welterweight: Mantequilla Napoles

Lightweight: Mando Ramos

Featherweight: Alexis Arguello

Bantamweight: Carlos Zarate

Nice! Ali at number one HW is never a bad choice!

Well these are all just personal preferences.

There are no wrong answers here. I think.

What makes you like Ramos at Lightweight. I'm interested.

[acehudkins]

Napoles was all class and Oliveres fought everyone and was a monster!

Oliveres was very fun to watch , Lupe Pintor was great and the nicest guy was Jesus Pimentel , fought Zamora and Zarate , he was an uncrowned champion

I can't find any record of Jesus Pimental having fought Zarate or Zamora.

He retired before Zarate and Zamora became stars.

"Little Poison's" final fight was in 1971 when he was stopped by Olivares.

Pimental was called the "uncrowned champ" (chiefly by his manager Harry Kabakoff) but he had his chance against Olivares and failed.

Sorry I'm getting old , he was ranked as number one contender , they did not fight . I lived by Kabakoff and Jesus , Kabakoff gave us tickets to the Limon , Chacon fight , had to run after that one , technical draw 3rd round , Sports arena and Olympic could get rough .

[SenorPipino]

Nice! Ali at number one HW is never a bad choice!

Well these are all just personal preferences.

There are no wrong answers here. I think.

What makes you like Ramos at Lightweight. I'm interested.

Ramos was the first non-heavyweight fighter I followed religiously during the mid to late 60s.

The youthful Ramos was simply a huge SPORTS star in Los Angeles at that time. Not just a boxing star.

Truly a star among stars in a city full of them.

And boxing was as big as any other sport in El Lay during that era. It mattered.

Ramos had looks, personality, charisma and of course immense talent.

A natural.

He was Oscar De La Hoya before there was one. And Ramos was very probably, very likely, a far better fighter.

He sold out the Olympic very early in his career (he turned pro at the ripe old age of 17 using a fake birth certificate) and would later attract sellout throngs to the bigger Sports Arena, and even draw 20,000 + at the L.A. Coliseum on 2 occasions.

Of course Ramos' career spiraled downhill fast as he quickly became involved in a non-stop party lifestyle and eventually turned to heroin.

Ramos would later say that while he trained almost every day, he was either drunk or stoned when he came to the gym.

He antics have been a nightmare for his straight-laced manager/trainer Jackie McCoy, who described Mando as the most naturally gifted fighter he had ever seen.

And Ramos probably was as talented as anyone but was obviously terribly undisciplined outside the ring.

It caught up with him rapidly after twice winning versions of the lightweight championship.

Really sad. Mando Ramos, the one-time teenage darling of the Los Angeles sports world, was washed up by 23.

He absorbed a frightful beating in 1972 from Chango Carmona that for all intents and purposes finished his career.

He was carried from the ring on a stretcher.

Years later it was revealed that Ramos suffered a drug ovedose on the beach less than a week before the fight.

It was covered up.

Nearly a year after the Carmona debacle, I returned to the Olympic to see if a comebacking Mando could regain any of his heyday form.

He took in lightweight contender Tury The Fury Pineda, a fighter who wouldn't have stood a prayer with prime Ramos.

But Ramos fought like an old man and Pineda took him out in five.

I remember the Olympic Auditorium crowd that once adored him, actually booing Ramos as he left the ring.

His star had set and the fickle fans no longer had any use for him.

But when he was at his best in the late 60s, everyone loved to watch Ramos. When he was right, he was nearly perfect. A virtuoso talent.

The greatest birthday present I ever received from my father was tickets to Ramos' legendary August 1970 war against Sugar Ramos at a packed, stifling Olympic Auditorium.

It has often been called the best and most brutal fight ever witnessed at that ancient boxing arena.

Just extraordinary stuff. Even as a kid, I knew I was witnessing something special.

I was really saddened when Mando passed at the young age of 59 about 10 years ago.

He had successfully kicked his addictions years earlier and was a mentor to at-risk youths.

There's no telling how great Ramos' legacy would be today if drugs hadn't played a major role in derailing his career.

I suppose that today's casual boxing fan has little if any knowledge of Mando Ramos. Mention his name and you'll undoubtedly get a blank stare.

Even current younger hardcore followers of the sport probably have only a vague recognition of Ramos' ring accomplishments.

I guess it was a long time ago.

But believe me. If you were around Los Angeles during Ramos' golden era, and experienced the non-stop buzz, drama and thrills he brought to the local sports scene, then you would understand why Mando Ramos is my all-time favorite lightweight.

Hey, you asked oogiebe. LOL.

[oogiebe]

Well these are all just personal preferences.

There are no wrong answers here. I think.

What makes you like Ramos at Lightweight. I'm interested.

Ramos was the first non-heavyweight fighter I followed religiously during the mid to late 60s.

The youthful Ramos was simply a huge SPORTS star in Los Angeles at that time. Not just a boxing star.

Truly a star among stars in a city full of them.

And boxing was as big as any other sport in El Lay during that era. It mattered.

Ramos had looks, personality, charisma and of course immense talent.

A natural.

He was Oscar De La Hoya before there was one. And Ramos was very probably, very likely, a far better fighter.

He sold out the Olympic very early in his career (he turned pro at the ripe old age of 17 using a fake birth certificate) and would later attract sellout throngs to the bigger Sports Arena, and even draw 20,000 + at the L.A. Coliseum on 2 occasions.

Of course Ramos' career spiraled downhill fast as he quickly became involved in a non-stop party lifestyle and eventually turned to heroin.

Ramos would later say that while he trained almost every day, he was either drunk or stoned when he came to the gym.

He antics have been a nightmare for his straight-laced manager/trainer Jackie McCoy, who described Mando as the most naturally gifted fighter he had ever seen.

And Ramos probably was as talented as anyone but was obviously terribly undisciplined outside the ring.

It caught up with him rapidly after twice winning versions of the lightweight championship.

Really sad. Mando Ramos, the one-time teenage darling of the Los Angeles sports world, was washed up by 23.

He absorbed a frightful beating in 1972 from Chango Carmona that for all intents and purposes finished his career.

He was carried from the ring on a stretcher.

Years later it was revealed that Ramos suffered a drug ovedose on the beach less than a week before the fight.

It was covered up.

Nearly a year after the Carmona debacle, I returned to the Olympic to see if a comebacking Mando could regain any of his heyday form.

He took in lightweight contender Tury The Fury Pineda, a fighter who wouldn't have stood a prayer with prime Ramos.

But Ramos fought like an old man and Pineda took him out in five.

I remember the Olympic Auditorium crowd that once adored him, actually booing Ramos as he left the ring.

His star had set and the fickle fans no longer had any use for him.

But when he was at his best in the late 60s, everyone loved to watch Ramos. When he was right, he was nearly perfect. A virtuoso talent.

The greatest birthday present I ever received from my father was tickets to Ramos' legendary August 1970 war against Sugar Ramos at a packed, stifling Olympic Auditorium.

It has often been called the best and most brutal fight ever witnessed at that ancient boxing arena.

Just extraordinary stuff. Even as a kid, I knew I was witnessing something special.

I was really saddened when Mando passed at the young age of 59 about 10 years ago.

He had successfully kicked his addictions years earlier and was a mentor to at-risk youths.

There's no telling how great Ramos' legacy would be today if drugs hadn't played a major role in derailing his career.

I suppose that today's casual boxing fan has little if any knowledge of Mando Ramos. Mention his name and you'll undoubtedly get a blank stare.

Even current younger hardcore followers of the sport probably have only a vague recognition of Ramos' ring accomplishments.

I guess it was a long time ago.

But believe me. If you were around Los Angeles during Ramos' golden era, and experienced the non-stop buzz, drama and thrills he brought to the local sports scene, then you would understand why Mando Ramos is my all-time favorite lightweight.

Hey, you asked oogiebe. LOL.

Yes...yes I did...
Did you know he had two brothers who died from Heroin overdoses?

[acehudkins]

senor plpino , thank you for your wonderful words , my Father loved Mando , forgot about Tury I believe he was with Kabakaf . I remember Frankie Crawford and Ray Windmill Wright Hedgemon Lewis also

[Ambling Alp II]

I am assuming when we say favorite we mean the favorite to watch, not like as a person. For example, I would hope nobody like someone like Monzon as a person.

[oogiebe]

I am assuming when we say favorite we mean the favorite to watch, not like as a person. For example, I would hope nobody like someone like Monzon as a person.

LOL!!! Monzon was a great person, but I can't see him ever being in contention for a Noble prize, so yes...As a fighter.

[paddy chavez]

Heavy weight..... Tyson
Light heavy......... Tommy Hearns
Middle weight....Hagler
Welter........Hearns ...again
Light weight...JC Chavez
Feather.........Naz
Bantam....... Tete


It's hard to leave Duran out but as my name says a bg Chavez fan

[oogiebe]

Heavy weight..... Tyson
Light heavy......... Tommy Hearns
Middle weight....Hagler
Welter........Hearns ...again
Light weight...JC Chavez
Feather.........Naz
Bantam....... Tete


It's hard to leave Duran out but as my name says a bg Chavez fan

Hearns fan! interesting list.