He's moved the whole cardEnlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 08:25 I don't think it's official and if f it was, Fwank Warren would probably pay Murray to step aside.
Canelo Álvarez Tests Positive For Clenbuterol
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EO, you must have finally found a good medication. Usually you were treating everything said literally and demanding written proof of anybody's conclusions. Keep taking that medicine, pal. You are starting to make some sense.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 07:51 Sometimes actions really do speak louder than words, which means that when all the chess pieces are moving in a particular direction, it’s not always a coincidence…
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Nobody is seriously buying Canelo's excuse. Some just pretend they are, as they want the fight to go forward.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 07:21 Golovkin: Canelo is Cheating, Using Drugs - De La Hoya is Dirty
Golovkin is not buying Canelo's excuse, which several other athletes have used in the country - including other boxers like Erik Morales, Francisco Vargas and Luis Nery.
"Again with Mexican meat? Come on," Golovkin said to media members on Tuesday.
"I told you, it's not Mexican meat. This is Canelo. This is his team. This is his promotion. ... Canelo is cheating. They're using these drugs, and everybody is just trying to pretend it's not happening."
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Not many boxing fans want to see the fight called off but there is a lot of heat on Canelo right now. There's also the risk of someone talking or more nasty stuff coming out. What to do?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018, 07:51 This might be some sort of conspiracy theory that only exists in my mind, but only two days ago, Gennady Golovkin proposed the idea of facing Billy Joe Saunders in a title unification bout if his super-fight against Canelo fell through.
The following day (i.e. yesterday), Billy Joe Saunders withdrew from his bout against Martin Murray, due to a minor injury.
Earlier on today, GGG behaves out-of-character and labels Canelo as being a drug “cheat”, with some members of the media suggesting that such claims could jeopardize their Cinco de Mayo rematch.
Less than four hours ago, lots of articles have been published by the media strongly-suggesting that Saunders is likely to become GGG’s fall-back opponent if Golovkin-Canelo II is cancelled.
Sometimes actions really do speak louder than words, which means that when all the chess pieces are moving in a particular direction, it’s not always a coincidence… and in this case, it may indicate that some sort of suspension may be imminent for Canelo.
I really do hope I’m reading too much into things and I am ultimately proven wrong, because I don’t want to see the GGG-Canelo rematch being scuppered!![]()
The simplest way to preserve the fight is to keep this investigation going and only announce the results after May 5th. Or in the worst case scenario allow the fight to go ahead pending an appeal on behalf of Canelo. These things take time.
In the meantime it's a great idea to have Billy Joe Saunders as a reserve if a Canelo ban can't be avoided, otherwise GGG gets shafted a second time hanging around for Canelo and Billy Joe gets the fight he really wants. I'm sure the gallant Martin Murray will be the first to understand.
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http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/6655/ ... -WADA.aspx
Ayotte runs the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lab outside of Montreal. She commented on the recent cases of athletes testing positive for small amounts of Clenbuterol. The drug helps breathing and weight loss.
Recent cases:
- China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms
- Italy's Alessandro Colò: 200 picograms
- Spain's Alberto Contador: 50 picograms
- Germany's Dimitrij Ovtcharov: 75 picograms
- Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: 600-800 piocgrams
Cyclists Li and Colò both received suspensions from their federations. Germany acquitted table tennis player Ovtcharov, but WADA has since appealed the decision. All of the athletes argued that the Clenbuterol came from eating contaminated beef.
The WADA lists Clenbuterol as a banned substance regardless of how it was ingested. Contador maintains his innocence and claims that the beef that his Astana team bought in Irún, Spain, caused the positive result.
Ayotte runs the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lab outside of Montreal. She commented on the recent cases of athletes testing positive for small amounts of Clenbuterol. The drug helps breathing and weight loss.
Recent cases:
- China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms
- Italy's Alessandro Colò: 200 picograms
- Spain's Alberto Contador: 50 picograms
- Germany's Dimitrij Ovtcharov: 75 picograms
- Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: 600-800 piocgrams
Cyclists Li and Colò both received suspensions from their federations. Germany acquitted table tennis player Ovtcharov, but WADA has since appealed the decision. All of the athletes argued that the Clenbuterol came from eating contaminated beef.
The WADA lists Clenbuterol as a banned substance regardless of how it was ingested. Contador maintains his innocence and claims that the beef that his Astana team bought in Irún, Spain, caused the positive result.
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Things are heating up:
https://www.ringtv.com/531652-canelo-al ... y-remarks/
I bet there will be a KO, and PPV numbers will be much better than the first time.
https://www.ringtv.com/531652-canelo-al ... y-remarks/
I bet there will be a KO, and PPV numbers will be much better than the first time.
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ya i think gggs getting stopped or at least dropped this time. can see him taking a shellacking and be halted standing while canelo laughs in his busted up face
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Golovkin's odds are getting better: from 1/2 to 4/7. Canelo is 3/2.
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How clueless can guy in hes position be?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 04:30 The president of the World Boxing Council, Mauricio Sulaiman , once again touched on the issue of Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) and took aim at the critics who continue to attack the Mexican superstar.
WBC Prez Says Critics Need To Back Off: Canelo NOT a Cheater!
"Everyone took the opportunity to criticize Canelo. He can be criticized for other things, but not cheating, much less being a boxer who uses doping to take advantage of his opponent," Sulaiman said during the festivities for the 55th anniversary of the World Boxing Council.
"There were other tests that were done, and they went negative. Everything indicates that the fight on May 5 does not have any risk of being canceled. There will be a stricter monitoring [in terms of drug testing]. I ask you to respect Saul Alvarez , because it is unfair to cross him out because of something that [he didn't do]."
"For five years, Saul has been subjected to a lot of VADA tests as part of the Clean Boxing program and he has always come out clean. Clenbuterol is a national problem [in Mexico], there are many who give this to their animals to make them fat and the boxer is not looking to gain weight.. on the contrary, he seeks to reduce it. Everything says that this was contamination by way of contaminated meat."
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^^ He's just licking âss now..![]()
Shows pretty well that its all talk with no substance
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He is not clueless, just pretending to be. As everybody else close to boxing, he knows that meat contamination is a bullsh!t excuse.
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well if ggg went from 1/2 to 4/7 it means hes less of a favourite.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 00:20 Golovkin's odds are getting better: from 1/2 to 4/7. Canelo is 3/2.
personally i think stuff like 1/2 on ggg is awful odds. i think canelo should be a clear favoruite and a winning bet on ggg should return more then was put on.
the first fight was a draw and ggg is just older now. canelo took his shots well. you really think gggs gonna get the beenefit of the doubt on the cards?
personally, i cant see how golovkin wins tbh. realistically hes not gonna clearly dominate 10 rounds or anything like that. canelo is good enough to at least be competitive, and thats all he needs. i think canelo wins clearly this time but even if it seems ggg did better i dont think the cards will show it.
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No, it means that Golovkin is about 2:1 favorite. Earlier, he was just a slight favorite.jamamb wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 22:04well if ggg went from 1/2 to 4/7 it means hes less of a favourite.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 00:20 Golovkin's odds are getting better: from 1/2 to 4/7. Canelo is 3/2.
personally i think stuff like 1/2 on ggg is awful odds. i think canelo should be a clear favoruite and a winning bet on ggg should return more then was put on.
the first fight was a draw and ggg is just older now. canelo took his shots well. you really think gggs gonna get the beenefit of the doubt on the cards?
personally, i cant see how golovkin wins tbh. realistically hes not gonna clearly dominate 10 rounds or anything like that. canelo is good enough to at least be competitive, and thats all he needs. i think canelo wins clearly this time but even if it seems ggg did better i dont think the cards will show it.
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did he start at 1/2 and move to 4/7? because if someone is 4/7 that means you dont have to put as much on them to win 4 as you needed to when they were 1/2 (aka 4/8)
do ppl think canelo will be off the stuff because of the added focus?
personally like i said, i would stay away from a bet on ggg as the fav. just cant see him winning. canelos good enouugh to win legit, and even if he doesnt hes got vegas backup.
do ppl think canelo will be off the stuff because of the added focus?
personally like i said, i would stay away from a bet on ggg as the fav. just cant see him winning. canelos good enouugh to win legit, and even if he doesnt hes got vegas backup.
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I think Canelo will be affected emotionally, plus they will both be angry at each other, so they will engage significantly more than in the first fight, and bookies think that Golovkin has better chances if they engage.
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hmmm, not sure about that, i thought canelo clearly got the better when they traded. he was quicker and got there first and flusher
the one thing with that could be that if there engaging more from the start canelo might not have the energy down the stretch., which he needed the first fight
the one thing with that could be that if there engaging more from the start canelo might not have the energy down the stretch., which he needed the first fight
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"Sanchez Not Worried if Canelo Falls Out, Saunders is Backup"
Saunders was scheduled to face Martin Murray on April 14th but recently pushed the date back to June 23rd after injuring his hand in training. If the possibility of a fight against Golovkin presented itself, Sanchez is confident that Saunders would pursue it as well.
"Saunders just postponed his fight with Murray because he hurt his hand so he pushed it up. I am sure that if this fight doesn't happen on the 5th that negotiations will start for Saunders. I am sure that they would want it and Gennady wants it because he wants that [WBO] belt," Sanchez told BS.com.
Saunders was scheduled to face Martin Murray on April 14th but recently pushed the date back to June 23rd after injuring his hand in training. If the possibility of a fight against Golovkin presented itself, Sanchez is confident that Saunders would pursue it as well.
"Saunders just postponed his fight with Murray because he hurt his hand so he pushed it up. I am sure that if this fight doesn't happen on the 5th that negotiations will start for Saunders. I am sure that they would want it and Gennady wants it because he wants that [WBO] belt," Sanchez told BS.com.
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Just read this myself.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Mar 2018, 10:37 "Sanchez Not Worried if Canelo Falls Out, Saunders is Backup"
Saunders was scheduled to face Martin Murray on April 14th but recently pushed the date back to June 23rd after injuring his hand in training. If the possibility of a fight against Golovkin presented itself, Sanchez is confident that Saunders would pursue it as well.
"Saunders just postponed his fight with Murray because he hurt his hand so he pushed it up. I am sure that if this fight doesn't happen on the 5th that negotiations will start for Saunders. I am sure that they would want it and Gennady wants it because he wants that [WBO] belt," Sanchez told BS.com.
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Canelo is 'Temporarily Suspended' By NSAC Due To Failed Tests
Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) has been temporarily suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, in connection to his failed drug tests from February, where the boxer came up positive for traces of clenbuterol in samples taken on February 17 and February 20.
Bob Bennett, the executive director at the NSAC, has advised the Los Angeles Times that a commission meeting has been scheduled for April 10 to settle the matter.
“Mr. Alvarez is temporarily suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission per the executive director for his adverse analytical findings, that being Clenbuterol, on February 17 and 20,” the statement read. “A commission hearing is scheduled for April 10, 2018 to hear from Mr. Alvarez or for Mr. Alvarez to attend.”
Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) has been temporarily suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, in connection to his failed drug tests from February, where the boxer came up positive for traces of clenbuterol in samples taken on February 17 and February 20.
Bob Bennett, the executive director at the NSAC, has advised the Los Angeles Times that a commission meeting has been scheduled for April 10 to settle the matter.
“Mr. Alvarez is temporarily suspended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission per the executive director for his adverse analytical findings, that being Clenbuterol, on February 17 and 20,” the statement read. “A commission hearing is scheduled for April 10, 2018 to hear from Mr. Alvarez or for Mr. Alvarez to attend.”
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Temporarly means shít!
Just one of them things to make it seem like the NSAC are actually doing something but will all be cleared by April 10..
Just one of them things to make it seem like the NSAC are actually doing something but will all be cleared by April 10..
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Yup far too much money for Vegas, if it was an average fighter he'd get a proper banRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Mar 2018, 20:23 Temporarly means shít!
Just one of them things to make it seem like the NSAC are actually doing something but will all be cleared by April 10..
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Still unpleasant for Clenbnelo Cheatvarez.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Mar 2018, 20:23 Temporarly means shít!
Just one of them things to make it seem like the NSAC are actually doing something but will all be cleared by April 10..
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Golden Boy Reacts To Canelo Being Temporarily Suspended
In a statement provided to BS.com, Golden Boy Promotions, who guide the career of Canelo, voiced the following:
"We respect the Nevada State Athletic Commission's process and will vigorously present Canelo's case throughout. Over his career Canelo has tested clean more than 90 times and would never intentionally take a banned substance."
In a statement provided to BS.com, Golden Boy Promotions, who guide the career of Canelo, voiced the following:
"We respect the Nevada State Athletic Commission's process and will vigorously present Canelo's case throughout. Over his career Canelo has tested clean more than 90 times and would never intentionally take a banned substance."
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All smoke n mirrors. Banner until next month for what? The fight is scheduled in May. Clenbelo will continue training as normal and the ban will be lifted.. i do hope he gets a hefty fine.
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Nobody can continue "as normal" in this situation. Even if Bennet promised DLH that the suspension is just to demonstrate thorough investigation, who can fully believe those Nevada crooks? It will definitely add mental stress on Canelo.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Mar 2018, 22:35 All smoke n mirrors. Banner until next month for what? The fight is scheduled in May. Clenbelo will continue training as normal and the ban will be lifted.. i do hope he gets a hefty fine.
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lol do they take a break from testing while canelis suspended
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clen up, mate![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
clen up, mate