Hype for the raising stars

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 23 Mar 2018, 20:51

Great clip!
Thanks I enjoyed that.
I haven't seen some of the fights they showed clips from, that was interesting.
I agree with the commentary that Joyce looks slow. They should put all ten of them in a series like the WBSS and see who comes out on top

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » 24 Mar 2018, 10:25

Interesting guys in the next wave

This was the first time I heard of that Russian dude Rostislav Plechko. Beastly looking guy with quite drastic approach to the game... Should be lot of fun if he can beat anyone half decent

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 24 Mar 2018, 20:26

tbh i dont think any of those guys are star material other then maybe dubouis

like, izu ugnoh, the 32 year old guy who in his only fight with a decent opponent got kod?

plechko ill look more into

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 24 Mar 2018, 20:27

and who is the guy with the tatatoo? is that a click bait image

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 24 Mar 2018, 20:43

Nice video...thanks.

It's very current and has some guys I was not familiar with, but I'm surprised he included only 2 of the 7 amateur HW stars that have turned pro in the past 12 months (Dubois & Joyce):

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

VLADYSLAV SIRENKO Ukraine http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vladyslav_Sirenko

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » 25 Mar 2018, 04:36

jamamb wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:27 and who is the guy with the tatatoo? is that a click bait image

Hmm I tried to find him but failed

HyacinthusTurnipseed · Post by **HyacinthusTurnipseed** » 25 Mar 2018, 12:22

Heretic wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 04:36
jamamb wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:27 and who is the guy with the tatatoo? is that a click bait image
Hmm I tried to find him but failed

It's Plechko's face, I'm pretty sure. Just with a tattoo photoshopped onto it fit some reason?

Heretic · Post by **Heretic** » 25 Mar 2018, 14:22

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 12:22
Heretic wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 04:36
jamamb wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:27 and who is the guy with the tatatoo? is that a click bait image
Hmm I tried to find him but failed
It's Plechko's face, I'm pretty sure. Just with a tattoo photoshopped onto it fit some reason?

Yeah I was wondering if it is Plechko. I tried to find any other pic from him with the tattoo but failed to do so.

Weird thing if they photoshopped that in

HeavyHitters · Post by **HeavyHitters** » 26 Mar 2018, 16:21

Best Coast wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:43 Nice video...thanks.

It's very current and has some guys I was not familiar with, but I'm surprised he included only 2 of the 7 amateur HW stars that have turned pro in the past 12 months (Dubois & Joyce):

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

VLADYSLAV SIRENKO Ukraine http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vladyslav_Sirenko

Yoka... too slowka.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Mar 2018, 16:51

Arias has great movement and looks like he can punch.

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 26 Mar 2018, 17:40

Plechko is too small. Unless he developes the skills on the level of Povetkin it will be very hard for him to reach top-10. Arias is even smaller.

Also, it's interesting that Efe Ajagba is listed 6'3' on BoxRec. He seems to be at least 1 inch taller than that

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Mar 2018, 17:45

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 17:40 Plechko is too small. Unless he developes the skills on the level of Povetkin, it will be very hard for him to reach top-10. Arias is even smaller.

Yes, he is, but looks very mobile and quick.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 26 Mar 2018, 17:47

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 16:21
Best Coast wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:43 Nice video...thanks.

It's very current and has some guys I was not familiar with, but I'm surprised he included only 2 of the 7 amateur HW stars that have turned pro in the past 12 months (Dubois & Joyce):

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

VLADYSLAV SIRENKO Ukraine http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vladyslav_Sirenko
Yoka... too slowka.....

...classic...!

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 26 Mar 2018, 17:52

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 17:40 Plechko is too small. Unless he developes the skills on the level of Povetkin it will be very hard for him to reach top-10. Arias is even smaller.

Also, it's interesting that Efe Ajagba is listed 6'3' on BoxRec. He seems to be at least 1 inch taller than that

ya efe looks an okay sized hw to me. maybe its the case that other guys are inflating there height while hes legit what he says he is. to me he looks no smaller then a guy like joe parker

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 26 Mar 2018, 18:20

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 16:21
Best Coast wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:43 Nice video...thanks.

It's very current and has some guys I was not familiar with, but I'm surprised he included only 2 of the 7 amateur HW stars that have turned pro in the past 12 months (Dubois & Joyce):

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

VLADYSLAV SIRENKO Ukraine http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vladyslav_Sirenko
Yoka... too slowka.....

But could Dychko be another Klitschko?

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 26 Mar 2018, 18:22

Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:20
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 16:21
Best Coast wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:43 Nice video...thanks.

It's very current and has some guys I was not familiar with, but I'm surprised he included only 2 of the 7 amateur HW stars that have turned pro in the past 12 months (Dubois & Joyce):

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

VLADYSLAV SIRENKO Ukraine http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vladyslav_Sirenko
Yoka... too slowka.....

But could Dychko be another Klitschko?

...ouch...

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 26 Mar 2018, 18:24

Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:20
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 16:21
Best Coast wrote: ↑24 Mar 2018, 20:43 Nice video...thanks.

It's very current and has some guys I was not familiar with, but I'm surprised he included only 2 of the 7 amateur HW stars that have turned pro in the past 12 months (Dubois & Joyce):

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

VLADYSLAV SIRENKO Ukraine http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Vladyslav_Sirenko
Yoka... too slowka.....

But could Dychko be another Klitschko?

Unlikely. But he can reach top-10 or probably even top-5.

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 26 Mar 2018, 21:04

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:24
Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:20
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 16:21 Yoka... too slowka.....

But could Dychko be another Klitschko?
Unlikely. But he can reach top-10 or probably even top-5.

Moreso than the smaller weight classes, the HWs seem to be ruled in recent decades at the pro level by former amateur stars. Based on the major HW successes of the last 50+ years I would say 4-5 of the 6 new pros listed above will eventually make the top 5 worldwide with even a few probable world title beltholders (not saying there's not a "Fraudley" Harrison in the group).

Joshua
Wilder
Povetkin
T. Fury (turned pro at 20 but medaled at 2006 World Youth Ch. & 2007 Euro Youth Ch)
Klitschkos (Vitali was non-Olympian but was 1995 World Champ Silver Medalist)
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson (Olympic alternate at 17)
Bowe
Foreman
Frazier
Ali

Probably the only significant HW champ missing from that list in the last 50 years is Larry Holmes.

HeavyHitters · Post by **HeavyHitters** » 27 Mar 2018, 15:53

Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 21:04
Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:24
Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:20
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=219753

TONY YOKA France http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tony_Yoka

IVAN DYCHKO Kazakhstan http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ivan_Dychko

FILIP HRGOVIC Croatia http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Filip_Hrgovic

EFE AJAGBA Nigeria http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Efe_Ajagba

JOE JOYCE U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Joe_Joyce

DANIEL DUBOIS U.K. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Daniel_Dubois

But could Dychko be another Klitschko?
Unlikely. But he can reach top-10 or probably even top-5.
Moreso than the smaller weight classes, the HWs seem to be ruled in recent decades at the pro level by former amateur stars. Based on the major HW successes of the last 50+ years I would say 4-5 of the 6 new pros listed above will eventually make the top 5 worldwide with even a few probable world title beltholders (not saying there's not a "Fraudley" Harrison in the group).

Joshua
Wilder
Povetkin
T. Fury (turned pro at 20 but medaled at 2006 World Youth Ch. & 2007 Euro Youth Ch)
Klitschkos (Vitali was non-Olympian but was 1995 World Champ Silver Medalist)
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson (Olympic alternate at 17)
Bowe
Foreman
Frazier
Ali

Probably the only significant HW champ missing from that list in the last 50 years is Larry Holmes.

Well, Ray Mercer ( WBO )

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 27 Mar 2018, 15:56

I saw that on YouTube the other day. I figured these clips show the best of the fighter, so I wasn't jumping towards any of them as of now with the possible exception of Efe. Good clip for watching though.

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 27 Mar 2018, 16:25

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 15:53
Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 21:04
Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:24
Unlikely. But he can reach top-10 or probably even top-5.
Moreso than the smaller weight classes, the HWs seem to be ruled in recent decades at the pro level by former amateur stars. Based on the major HW successes of the last 50+ years I would say 4-5 of the 6 new pros listed above will eventually make the top 5 worldwide with even a few probable world title beltholders (not saying there's not a "Fraudley" Harrison in the group).

Joshua
Wilder
Povetkin
T. Fury (turned pro at 20 but medaled at 2006 World Youth Ch. & 2007 Euro Youth Ch)
Klitschkos (Vitali was non-Olympian but was 1995 World Champ Silver Medalist)
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson (Olympic alternate at 17)
Bowe
Foreman
Frazier
Ali

Probably the only significant HW champ missing from that list in the last 50 years is Larry Holmes.
Well, Ray Mercer ( WBO )

Mercer was Olympic Champion in 1988

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 27 Mar 2018, 16:41

Charles Martin wasn't an amateur star and it hasn't held him back

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 27 Mar 2018, 21:36

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑27 Mar 2018, 16:41 Charles Martin wasn't an amateur star and it hasn't held him back

Good one!!

If it wasnt for Glazkov's knee injury Martin probably wouldnt have won the IBF belt in the first place. Not that Glazkov would have been anything more than a paper champ either. That was one of those rare world title bouts with two undeserving contenders!!

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 27 Mar 2018, 21:38

his credentials were decent though not on olympic level

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