Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Who wins ? How ?
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Povetkin ko.
Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Povetkin is more skillful and he hits harder, he will KO Whyte.
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Syntax Error
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
As Povetkin has now replaced Ortiz as the bogeyman that's just waiting to be crowned (until he gets sparked, then he will be old & overrated), I will go for him.
To be fair, he is better than Whyte, although Dillian's skillset has improved, but it's easy to look skillful against a pudding.
To be fair, he is better than Whyte, although Dillian's skillset has improved, but it's easy to look skillful against a pudding.
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punchoutsb
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
People do tend to get older, it's a naturally occurring phenomenon.Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:39 As Povetkin has now replaced Ortiz as the bogeyman that's just waiting to be crowned (until he gets sparked, then he will be old & overrated), I will go for him.
To be fair, he is better than Whyte, although Dillian's skillset has improved, but it's easy to look skillful against a pudding.
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Ilya Muromets
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
punchoutsb wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:49 People do tend to get older, it's a naturally occurring phenomenon.
I thought I could defy the phenomenon, but I was mistaken.
Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Povetkin KO's him like the did iron-chinned Takam. Watch Whyte/Chisora. Povetkin steamrolls Whyte.
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asdfjkl
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Nowadays I think Whyte, it's really a shame that Wilder didn't dare to give Povetkin a world titleshot he earned. Povetkin still deserves it today, while he's not even close near the level he once used to be. He's probably better as Ortiz, but that's really it. When Wilder recived his title there is wasted a lot of time. I'm happy the UK heavyweights are doing all the cleaning work nowadays, While Wilder only has done one after 40 fights. And once again refuses to fight his (out of the real champion, undefeated) mandatory.
Wilder nowadays simply receives what the boxing world knows he deserves, a wait for his time, which he delayed himself for all those years.
Wilder nowadays simply receives what the boxing world knows he deserves, a wait for his time, which he delayed himself for all those years.
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were you not around for 2015 to 2016?Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:39 As Povetkin has now replaced Ortiz as the bogeyman that's just waiting to be crowned (until he gets sparked, then he will be old & overrated), I will go for him.
To be fair, he is better than Whyte, although Dillian's skillset has improved, but it's easy to look skillful against a pudding.
ppl used to be a lot higher on pov then they are now, id say his boogeyman status has clearly dropped from when he was on his fairly impressive ko run. i havent really seen many ppl at all now rushing to act like hes some uncrowned champ, any left over ppl going on about him now probably already were
and tbf he is almost 40 now
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asdfjkl
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
The sad thing is, he still deserves a world titleshot and Wilder would never dare to give him. I guess AJ has to do all the hard work again while the only one Wilder meanwhile spanks is his own troll army.jamamb wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 01:14were you not around for 2015 to 2016?Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:39 As Povetkin has now replaced Ortiz as the bogeyman that's just waiting to be crowned (until he gets sparked, then he will be old & overrated), I will go for him.
To be fair, he is better than Whyte, although Dillian's skillset has improved, but it's easy to look skillful against a pudding.
ppl used to be a lot higher on pov then they are now, id say his boogeyman status has clearly dropped from when he was on his fairly impressive ko run. i havent really seen many ppl at all now rushing to act like hes some uncrowned champ, any left over ppl going on about him now probably already were
and tbf he is almost 40 now
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Ilya Muromets
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
asdfjkl wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 19:00 Nowadays I think Whyte, it's really a shame that Wilder didn't dare to give Povetkin a world titleshot he earned. Povetkin still deserves it today, while he's not even close near the level he once used to be. He's probably better as Ortiz, but that's really it. When Wilder recived his title there is wasted a lot of time. I'm happy the UK heavyweights are doing all the cleaning work nowadays, While Wilder only has done one after 40 fights. And once again refuses to fight his (out of the real champion, undefeated) mandatory.
Wilder nowadays simply receives what the boxing world knows he deserves, a wait for his time, which he delayed himself for all those years.
You say Povetkin Is not even close to the level he once used to be. Based on what? Just because he didn't KO his last two oponents, even though he won every round?
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asdfjkl
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Not just that, he's also a lot slower as he used to be. Or well, at least in my opinion.x2x wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 02:34You say Povetkin Is not even close to the level he once used to be. Based on what? Just because he didn't KO his last two oponents, even though he won every round?asdfjkl wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 19:00 Nowadays I think Whyte, it's really a shame that Wilder didn't dare to give Povetkin a world titleshot he earned. Povetkin still deserves it today, while he's not even close near the level he once used to be. He's probably better as Ortiz, but that's really it. When Wilder recived his title there is wasted a lot of time. I'm happy the UK heavyweights are doing all the cleaning work nowadays, While Wilder only has done one after 40 fights. And once again refuses to fight his (out of the real champion, undefeated) mandatory.
Wilder nowadays simply receives what the boxing world knows he deserves, a wait for his time, which he delayed himself for all those years.
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Luis Fernando12
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Dillian Whyte vs Manuel Charr would be a better and a more interesting fight.
On what basis, is Dillian Whyte even better than Manuel Charr? What has Whyte done to prove this? Povetkin knocks Whyte out in the 7th round, like he did to Manuel Charr.
On what basis, is Dillian Whyte even better than Manuel Charr? What has Whyte done to prove this? Povetkin knocks Whyte out in the 7th round, like he did to Manuel Charr.
Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
I put "too close to call" but more accurately I mean, it depends how much Povetkin has left. I think a peak Povetkin would be far too much for Dillian, having greater power and a considerable advantage in skill.
Now he's 38 and it looks to me that he isn't the force he once was. If I'm wrong about that and he hasn't yet begun his decline, then it must surely be imminent. Even now I suspect Whyte's youth might allow him to set a pace which Sasha is unable to match, and although Povetkin still retains the superior skills, it isn't like Whyte can't box and he could well now have the advantage in speed.
My instinct tells me Whyte already has an edge and that is only going to increase as time goes by.
Now he's 38 and it looks to me that he isn't the force he once was. If I'm wrong about that and he hasn't yet begun his decline, then it must surely be imminent. Even now I suspect Whyte's youth might allow him to set a pace which Sasha is unable to match, and although Povetkin still retains the superior skills, it isn't like Whyte can't box and he could well now have the advantage in speed.
My instinct tells me Whyte already has an edge and that is only going to increase as time goes by.
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Dillian has not ever been sparked by a cruiserweight. Manuel Charr??? ... do me a favour.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:27 Dillian Whyte vs Manuel Charr would be a better and a more interesting fight.
On what basis, is Dillian Whyte even better than Manuel Charr? What has Whyte done to prove this? Povetkin knocks Whyte out in the 7th round, like he did to Manuel Charr.
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Luis Fernando12
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
And he also never faced a cruiser weight as powerful and skilled as Mairis Breidis. So what's your point? Gassiev or Breidis arguably knock Dillian Whyte out too.candyslim wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:40Dillian has not ever been sparked by a cruiserweight. Manuel Charr??? ... do me a favour.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:27 Dillian Whyte vs Manuel Charr would be a better and a more interesting fight.
On what basis, is Dillian Whyte even better than Manuel Charr? What has Whyte done to prove this? Povetkin knocks Whyte out in the 7th round, like he did to Manuel Charr.
Nothing suggests Whyte is any better than Charr to me. Except in the punching power department perhaps (and even then, only by a slight margin).
Povetkin KO's Whyte in 7 rounds as he KO'ed Charr. That is, if Whyte comes to win like Charr did. If he doesn't, then he loses a lopsided 12 round unanimous decision like how Andriy Rudenko and Christian Hammer did.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
There is zero sense in even considering a bout between Alexander Povetkin and Dillian Whyte as being remotely possible in the short-term, because they’re both in line to receive world title opportunities.
If they are ever pitted against each other, it’ll be at least twelve months or so down the line, with the Russian being close to turning forty years of age, coupled with the fact that he’ll have to remain clean, since it's hard to tell how good he really is without being on PED's.
So by then, I’d expect the Brit to stop Povetkin, especially considering how badly hurt Alexander was at the end of the sixth round of the Hammer bout.
If they are ever pitted against each other, it’ll be at least twelve months or so down the line, with the Russian being close to turning forty years of age, coupled with the fact that he’ll have to remain clean, since it's hard to tell how good he really is without being on PED's.
So by then, I’d expect the Brit to stop Povetkin, especially considering how badly hurt Alexander was at the end of the sixth round of the Hammer bout.
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thought it looked like pov mightve been cuffed off balance at the end of the 6th but hard to tell and the replays on the broadcast i saw didnt show it
i think whytes chances are only getting better though
i think whytes chances are only getting better though
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Povetkin by UD. Prime Povetkin would KO Whyte.
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
1. Whyte is clearly better than Charr. Has more power and speed,Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 04:52And he also never faced a cruiser weight as powerful and skilled as Mairis Breidis. So what's your point? Gassiev or Breidis arguably knock Dillian Whyte out too.candyslim wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:40Dillian has not ever been sparked by a cruiserweight. Manuel Charr??? ... do me a favour.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:27 Dillian Whyte vs Manuel Charr would be a better and a more interesting fight.
On what basis, is Dillian Whyte even better than Manuel Charr? What has Whyte done to prove this? Povetkin knocks Whyte out in the 7th round, like he did to Manuel Charr.
Nothing suggests Whyte is any better than Charr to me. Except in the punching power department perhaps (and even then, only by a slight margin).
Povetkin KO's Whyte in 7 rounds as he KO'ed Charr. That is, if Whyte comes to win like Charr did. If he doesn't, then he loses a lopsided 12 round unanimous decision like how Andriy Rudenko and Christian Hammer did.
2. Povetkin is not the same fighter he was in 2014-2015. He is 38, and he couldn't even hurt Christian Hammer, whom Mariusz Wach knocked out cold with a single punch.
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It's pretty illogical that people used to think that George Foreman was a boogeyman back when he was a terrifying killer, and then all of the sudden, people thought he was old when his chronological age got much more advanced.Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:39 As Povetkin has now replaced Ortiz as the bogeyman that's just waiting to be crowned (until he gets sparked, then he will be old & overrated), I will go for him.
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If you are treating Wach - Hammer as a valid indictment of Hammer's abilities, then you don't know how to assess when a fighter's prime is. Hammer was 22 years old, 7-1, and had achieved nothing at that point in his career. This was still prior to Hammer's pre-prime defeat to Taras Bidenko, which would eventually be surpassed by Hammer defeating Erkan Teper, David Price, Kevin Johnson, Leif Larsen, and various journeymen.Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:11He is 38, and he couldn't even hurt Christian Hammer, whom Mariusz Wach knocked out cold with a single punch.
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Bogus post. Are you kidding me? Briedis is a powerful and extremely talented cruiserweight. Briedis would school Whyte.candyslim wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:40Dillian has not ever been sparked by a cruiserweight. Manuel Charr??? ... do me a favour.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:27 Dillian Whyte vs Manuel Charr would be a better and a more interesting fight.
On what basis, is Dillian Whyte even better than Manuel Charr? What has Whyte done to prove this? Povetkin knocks Whyte out in the 7th round, like he did to Manuel Charr.
Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
Is this Potvetkin before the juice, or currently on the juice?
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Re: Who wins, Whyte vs. Povetkin ?
His chin hardly could improve since Wach KO and Povetkins never hurt him in 12 rounds. He landed decent punches but couldn't hurt Hammer. Also Fury's punches had more impact on Hammer comparing to Povetki's ones and Fury isn't a huge puncher.Lackeos wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:51If you are treating Wach - Hammer as a valid indictment of Hammer's abilities, then you don't know how to assess when a fighter's prime is. Hammer was 22 years old, 7-1, and had achieved nothing at that point in his career. This was still prior to Hammer's pre-prime defeat to Taras Bidenko, which would eventually be surpassed by Hammer defeating Erkan Teper, David Price, Kevin Johnson, Leif Larsen, and various journeymen.Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:11He is 38, and he couldn't even hurt Christian Hammer, whom Mariusz Wach knocked out cold with a single punch.