Luis Ortiz v Dillian Whyte .... Who wins ?

[Evander]

Say they fight in 3-4 months who wins ?

[Like a Boss]

Ortiz still too good for Whyte IMO.

But a fight I'd like to see.

[happyNY18]

Good fight, technically Ortiz is better at this stage, although Whyte is moving through the gears. I suspect that Whyte would outwork Ortiz though, i really like Whytes output & Ortiz is older than dirt.

[Best Coast]

I've got Ortiz in this one & it would be a WAR!!

[asdfjkl]

Whyte, KO 4th round

4 months ago somehow...

[Enlightened-One]

Luis Ortiz was KO’d badly against Deontay Wilder. It must have been a very painful defeat… to know that you came so close to capturing the world heavyweight title, but to only then get stopped in such a brutally spectacular fashion.

I think I’d like to see how the Cuban’s mind-set has recovered after his rather painful defeat to ‘The Bronze Bomber’, because if he becomes gun-shy, he could be out-worked and worn-down by the body-punching Dillian Whyte.

I feel that the Brit is more fundamentally-sound than Deontay Wilder, as well as possessing a superior work-rate and a wider arsenal of punches than ‘The Bronze Bomber’ uses, even if he’s slightly slower and doesn’t punch as hard.

Before his bout against Deontay Wilder, I would have slightly favoured Luis Ortiz to defeat Dillian Whyte by the smallest of margins, but now I’m not so sure. I feel that The Body Snatcher’s confidence is at an all-time-high and his fitness levels, skills and overall form have improved greatly over the last twelve months or so.

I also doubt that this bout is going to happen anytime soon, since Whyte is likely to become the WBC’s mandatory challenger, which means that we won't see the Brit face the Cuban for at least a year or so… and age is almost certainly not on King Kong’s side, with time strongly favouring the Brit whilst the months keep passing by.

[Rob3_142]

Luis Ortiz was KO’d badly against Deontay Wilder. It must have been a very painful defeat… to know that you came so close to capturing the world heavyweight title, but to only then get stopped in such a brutally spectacular fashion.

I think I’d like to see how the Cuban’s mind-set has recovered after his rather painful defeat to ‘The Bronze Bomber’, because if he becomes gun-shy, he could be out-worked and worn-down by the body-punching Dillian Whyte.

I feel that the Brit is more fundamentally-sound than Deontay Wilder, as well as possessing a superior work-rate and a wider arsenal of punches than ‘The Bronze Bomber’ uses, even if he’s slightly slower and doesn’t punch as hard.

Before his bout against Deontay Wilder, I would have slightly favoured Luis Ortiz to defeat Dillian Whyte by the smallest of margins, but now I’m not so sure. I feel that The Body Snatcher’s confidence is at an all-time-high and his fitness levels, skills and overall form have improved greatly over the last twelve months or so.

I also doubt that this bout is going to happen anytime soon, since Whyte is likely to become the WBC’s mandatory challenger, which means that we won't see the Brit face the Cuban for at least a year or so… and age is almost certainly not on King Kong’s side, with time strongly favouring the Brit whilst the months keep passing by.

This summarises my thoughts also.

I also think that the execution of the jab by Whyte in the last fight is also a big factor. Whyte would have a significant reach advantage, and Ortiz would have to get on the inside which I think Whyte would also enjoy.

[DrDuke]

Whyte needs to survive for late rounds, as he has chances only after Ortiz's gas tank becomes empty. Anyway Ortiz is too tough for Whyte, so King Kong will batter him early.

[Badhusker]

Whyte needs to survive for late rounds, as he has chances only after Ortiz's gas tank becomes empty. Anyway Ortiz is too tough for Whyte, so King Kong will batter him early.

There must be a reason team Whyte has not offered Ortiz a fight up to this point. Even Joshua had more than one chance to fight Ortiz, but didn't. It is pretty obvious why. Most give Whyte too much credit for his latest win, and Ortiz not enough credit for his performance losing to Wilder. Being a southpaw with skills and power like Ortiz has makes many shy away.

[Enlightened-One]

There must be a reason team Whyte has not offered Ortiz a fight up to this point.

It is pretty obvious why... Being a southpaw with skills and power like Ortiz has makes many shy away...

Dillian Whyte has been one of the highest ranked WBC contenders for quite some time, he's now likely to be installed as their mandatory challenger. The Brit is also in line to face Anthony Joshua. He clearly has bigger fish to fry.

Therefore, why would Whyte face Luis Ortiz when he’s been in line for quite some time to challenge for a world title? Ortiz has also been inactive and suspended! FFS!

You’re suggesting that Dillian Whyte is “ducking” Luis Ortiz, but none of the Cuban’s representatives have offered the Brit that fight, have they? It hasn’t happened, has it?

Has Luis Ortiz even called out Dillian Whye?

You really do need to think about things prior to casting aspersions.

[Rob3_142]

Whyte needs to survive for late rounds, as he has chances only after Ortiz's gas tank becomes empty. Anyway Ortiz is too tough for Whyte, so King Kong will batter him early.

There must be a reason team Whyte has not offered Ortiz a fight up to this point. Even Joshua had more than one chance to fight Ortiz, but didn't. It is pretty obvious why. Most give Whyte too much credit for his latest win, and Ortiz not enough credit for his performance losing to Wilder. Being a southpaw with skills and power like Ortiz has makes many shy away.

Why? Because Wilder is a proven world level operator? I think the most logical perspective to take is that none of the guys in the top 5 are proven. Wilder has had one fight against an ageing Ortiz, who the jury is still very much out, Joshua who's mixed it with a combination of B level and a 40+ Klitschko, and Whyte has half a dozen wins against C level operators and an out of shape Browne.

At the end of the day, the rankings as they are reflect exactly what it is. Joshua is the most tested, followed by Wilder and Povetkin. But none of these guys have locked horns yet, so there's a lot we don't know. To assume anything about Ortiz is fanciful. So far we know he hasn't got what it takes to knock Wilder over.

[klitoris]

Whyte TKO 7

[tiny_acres]

I have not seen anything in White that makes me think he is special.
Ortiz wins via late knock out or wide decision

[jamamb]

Whyte needs to survive for late rounds, as he has chances only after Ortiz's gas tank becomes empty. Anyway Ortiz is too tough for Whyte, so King Kong will batter him early.

There must be a reason team Whyte has not offered Ortiz a fight up to this point. Even Joshua had more than one chance to fight Ortiz, but didn't. It is pretty obvious why. Most give Whyte too much credit for his latest win, and Ortiz not enough credit for his performance losing to Wilder. Being a southpaw with skills and power like Ortiz has makes many shy away.

has ortz offered whyte a fght? we can go both ways with that...

[Ruthless-RKO]

Whyte TKO 7

How do you see the first 6 rounds going?

[klitoris]

Whyte TKO 7

How do you see the first 6 rounds going?

I think Ortiz goes after Whyte early, Whyte weathers the storm. Ortiz then has no stamina left for 6,7,8. Whyte then gets to him in 7 (or 8) and the ref stops it. I dont think Whyte knocks him out though. Probably like a referee decision or even corner stoppage.
The fight I think would be similar to the Wilde Ortiz fight, but Ortiz would be older slower and even more damaged goods after the Wilder fight.
If it was Ortiz of 3 years ago, I think Ortiz wins.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Whyte TKO 7

How do you see the first 6 rounds going?

I think Ortiz goes after Whyte early, Whyte weathers the storm. Ortiz then has no stamina left for 6,7,8. Whyte then gets to him in 7 (or 8) and the ref stops it. I dont think Whyte knocks him out though. Probably like a referee decision or even corner stoppage.
The fight I think would be similar to the Wilde Ortiz fight, but Ortiz would be older slower and even more damaged goods after the Wilder fight.
If it was Ortiz of 3 years ago, I think Ortiz wins.

Ortiz only got tired in the Wilder fight because he gave it his all in round 6 or was it 7? I can't remember. Apart from that, he was boxing well.

[oogiebe]

How do you see the first 6 rounds going?

I think Ortiz goes after Whyte early, Whyte weathers the storm. Ortiz then has no stamina left for 6,7,8. Whyte then gets to him in 7 (or 8) and the ref stops it. I dont think Whyte knocks him out though. Probably like a referee decision or even corner stoppage.
The fight I think would be similar to the Wilde Ortiz fight, but Ortiz would be older slower and even more damaged goods after the Wilder fight.
If it was Ortiz of 3 years ago, I think Ortiz wins.

Ortiz only got tired in the Wilder fight because he gave it his all in round 6 or was it 7? I can't remember. Apart from that, he was boxing well.

Ortiz is too good and too strong. Despite his age, he beats Whyte inside 10.

[ValMar]

Generally speaking, Whyte is a younger version of Ortiz (Ortiz has a bit better skillset, Whyte has a bit better stamina, punching power might be very close, the same size, the same decent chin).
Who wins ? Very difficult question, but only one punch could be the decisive factor, it is HW.

[Badhusker]

Battle between two former juicers. I guess it depends on how strict the testing is. Povetkin has tamed down some now he has been caught too. All else being equal, with stringent testing, Ortiz is much better than Whyte. A better fight would be Povetkin, but a win no doubt for Ortiz as well, imo.

[asdfjkl]

Whyte is probably much better, I would love to see the Whyte vs Ortiz fight if Wilder doesn't dare, despite it's a pointless fight when it comes to Whyte his WBC position.

[tiny_acres]

Whyte is probably much better, I would love to see the Whyte vs Ortiz fight if Wilder doesn't dare, despite it's a pointless fight when it comes to Whyte his WBC position.

No way is White better than Ortiz.
But you are right that it makes no sense for White to risk his number 1 WBC rating.

[oogiebe]

I don't see it happening. If Whyte loses (which I believe happens) it'll further the debate between AJ and Wilder (which may never happen at this rate). If Ortiz is motivated and trains hard, he KO's Whyte within 8

[asdfjkl]

Whyte is probably much better, I would love to see the Whyte vs Ortiz fight if Wilder doesn't dare, despite it's a pointless fight when it comes to Whyte his WBC position.

No way is White better than Ortiz.
But you are right that it makes no sense for White to risk his number 1 WBC rating.

Ah well, he will make some money, if he fights in the USA and makes more money as Wilder does, he proves he's bigger as Wilder.

[gilgamesh]

I'd still favor Ortiz in that matchup, but it might be close. Whyte's best bet would be to force a fast pace, in an attempt to wear out the older Ortiz.