Eddie Hearn increases payday offer for Deontay Wilder to defend WBC world title

[Enlightened-One]

"Dillian Whyte’s promoter increases payday offer for Deontay Wilder to defend WBC world title"

Dillian Whyte’s promoter Eddie Hearn says that they have tabled an improved offer on Monday night to WBC world champion Deontay Wilder for a summer fight.

Brixton heavyweight Whyte knocked out Lucas Browne in the sixth round at Greenwich’s 02 Arena on Saturday to retain his WBC silver title.

And the South Londoner wants Wilder next.

The unbeaten American is keen on a unification clash with Anthony Joshua, the IBF and WBA belt-holder is looking to add the WBO strap to his collection when he faces Joseph Parker in Cardiff on Saturday night.

Wilder is scheduled to do punditry work for Sky Sports in Wales but Hearn told iFL TV: “I’ve been told he is not coming. The whole epicentre of heavyweight boxing and boxing is in Cardiff on Saturday night.

“How bad does he want the fight if he is not coming? I don’t think he wants to get mixed up with Dillian and Josh. I don’t know [if it is because he] now realises Dillian is coming and he’ll be down his neck and his bum has gone. But who is advising these people? He would get more media than in his last 10 fights put together.

“We have got two boxers who will take his belt – AJ and Dillian Whyte. We have made an improved offer to Deontay Wilder [for the Whyte fight]. If he doesn’t take this fight he is a joker.

“I’m not going to talk numbers but it is a significant increase. That was only made last night.”

For the record, Deontay Wilder previously rejected a $4m offer from Eddie Hearn to face Dillian Whyte, with 'The Bronze Bomber' unwilling to take the bout for less than $7m, but strangely the American decided to face Luis Ortiz for a paltry $2.1m instead.

[bmilligan]

Win win if this fight happens for Eddie Hearn.

If Wilder wins, the fight with Joshua has even more hype behind it.

Wilder loses, Hearn has the ability to hype up the rematch for whyte vs joshua.

[tiny_acres]

Are they trying to get options on Wilder?
From what I read that was the problem the first time they verbally offered Wilder to fight White.
Are they trying to forget about the Joshua fight?

[Bard of Boxrec]

still don't quite understand why wilder decided to take half of what hearn offered him for Whyte, to face a tougher assignment in Ortiz

[Enlightened-One]

Are they trying to get options on Wilder?
From what I read that was the problem the first time they verbally offered Wilder to fight White.
Are they trying to forget about the Joshua fight?

There weren't any options as far as I know.

Hearn wanted Wilder to fight Whyte in order for the Amerian to gain exposure to the market in the UK prior to eventually arranging the fight with Joshua. However, Deontay wanted $7m to face Dillian and he also insisted in receiving a guarantee that he'd fight AJ in his very next outing, but the Matchroom boss wouldn't provide it.

In the real world, fights are negotiated for one contest between two fighters at a time - not two bouts involving three fighters. Wilder is being unreasonable.

[Enlightened-One]

The IBF has scheduled a purse bid on April 10th for heavyweight contender Kubrat Pulev and Dominic Breazeale for a title eliminator to become the mandatory for IBF heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua.

Since it's far more lucrative for both Breazeale & Pulev to face AJ rather than Wilder, it seems inevitable that the WBC will instate Dillian Whyte as the mandatory challenger for 'The Bronze Bomber's' world championship.

There is an outside chance that the WBC could order their own eliminator between Povetkin & Whyte (assuming the Russian beats David Price), but this would be pretty unfair, since the Brit has been one of their highest ranked title challengers for a long while now, whilst the “White Tyson” has tested positive on two occasions for banned substances during the lead-up of bouts that were ordered by the WBC.

If the WBC orders a purse bid between Wilder & Whyte, Deontay won’t be able to dictate terms. He’ll either have to agree to adhere to the conditions stipulated by the promoter submitting the highest bid, or alternatively vacate his crown.

This is an interesting development, because it’s highly likely that Eddie Hearn proposed a revised offer to Deontay Wilder, whilst knowing about the IBF’s purse bid deadline (since the timing of both events aren't mere coincidences). He’s clearly giving the American a take-it-or-leave-it type offer, because if Wilder rejects his latest bid, 'the Bronze Bomber' may ultimately be forced to accept a smaller purse further down the line... if he continues to "duck" or be greedy!

[Ruthless-RKO]

There is an outside chance that the WBC could order their own eliminator between Povetkin & Whyte (assuming the Russian beats David Price), but this would be pretty unfair, since the Brit has been one of their highest ranked title challengers for a long while now, whilst the “White Tyson” has tested positive on two occasions for banned substances during the lead-up of bouts that were ordered by the WBC.

You've confused yourself EO..

Chagaev was 'White Tyson' not Povetkin. He's the Russian Vityaz or whatever..

[Badhusker]

still don't quite understand why wilder decided to take half of what hearn offered him for Whyte, to face a tougher assignment in Ortiz

As far as I know it wasn't an official offer. Besides that it was something Hearn wanted as a bait and switch type thing to get Wilder off Joshua's trail. Hearn had promised Wilder the Joshua fight next after Wlad.
Whyte doesn't deserve mandatory status after basically losing to gatekeeper Chisora or the pathetic Browne.
Make Whyt e and Ortiz fight on the Wilder/Joshua undercard. Winners meet.

[Enlightened-One]

There is an outside chance that the WBC could order their own eliminator between Povetkin & Whyte (assuming the Russian beats David Price), but this would be pretty unfair, since the Brit has been one of their highest ranked title challengers for a long while now, whilst the “White Tyson” has tested positive on two occasions for banned substances during the lead-up of bouts that were ordered by the WBC.

You've confused yourself EO..

Chagaev was 'White Tyson' not Povetkin. He's the Russian Vityaz or whatever..

Povetkin's apprenticeship was textbook perfect, something that the men and women looking after Anthony Joshua should study, and he beat a solid list of former world champions, challengers and faded bangers to get the crucial rounds.

In private the Russian, who was briefly marketed as the "White Tyson", took part in ferocious sparring sessions that were real fights and the men chosen to "test" him often left with as much as $10,000; they deserved every penny if the stories of savagery are true.

I can provide more articles (lots of them) to prove his old nickname.

If I've "confused" myself, then you'll need to let me know where I've gone wrong.

[jamamb]

povetkin fought and kod ppl much more like tyson then chagaev did anyway, ruslan having that nick name was never even 1 tenth fitting beyond the white part

[Enlightened-One]

still don't quite understand why wilder decided to take half of what hearn offered him for Whyte, to face a tougher assignment in Ortiz

As far as I know it wasn't an official offer. Besides that it was something Hearn wanted as a bait and switch type thing to get Wilder off Joshua's trail. Hearn had promised Wilder the Joshua fight next after Wlad.

Eddie Hearn made an offer to Deontay Wilder, which was even corroborated by the American WBC champ.

Also, part of the reason why Wilder rejected the opportunity, was because Eddie Hearn wouldn't promise Deontay a guaranteed shot at Joshua.

I'm actually a little amazed at the inaccuracy of the claims in your post!

[Like a Boss]

“How bad does he want the fight if he is not coming? - Hearn

Eddie Hearn keeps telling Wilder to improve his profile. Yet when Wilder says he is coming over and wants to enter the ring after the fight Hearn tells him "it would be disrespectful."

Hearn does not want Wilder to be Joshua's next opponent. That much is patently obvious, and allowing Wilder to enter the ring at the weekend would be counterproductive to Eddie's narrative.

[jamamb]

did eddie really say it would be disrespectful for wilder to enter the ring after? id think it would be good

[Like a Boss]

did eddie really say it would be disrespectful for wilder to enter the ring after? id think it would be good

Off course it would be good.

Yes, he did say it, and no I'm not going looking for a shortcut to it.

[tiny_acres]

still don't quite understand why wilder decided to take half of what hearn offered him for Whyte, to face a tougher assignment in Ortiz

As far as I know it wasn't an official offer. Besides that it was something Hearn wanted as a bait and switch type thing to get Wilder off Joshua's trail. Hearn had promised Wilder the Joshua fight next after Wlad.

Eddie Hearn made an offer to Deontay Wilder, which was even corroborated by the American WBC champ.

Also, part of the reason why Wilder rejected the opportunity, was because Eddie Hearn wouldn't promise Deontay a guaranteed shot at Joshua.

I'm actually a little amazed at the inaccuracy of the claims in your post!

Wilder, Breland and Haymon all said he made a verbal offer. No contract was sent according to Wilder

[KiwiRider]

“How bad does he want the fight if he is not coming? - Hearn

Eddie Hearn keeps telling Wilder to improve his profile. Yet when Wilder says he is coming over and wants to enter the ring after the fight Hearn tells him "it would be disrespectful."

Hearn does not want Wilder to be Joshua's next opponent. That much is patently obvious, and allowing Wilder to enter the ring at the weekend would be counterproductive to Eddie's narrative.

I think Eddie wants Wilder to build his profile in the UK with his fists and not his mouth.
It would ruin the family atmosphere immediately having that buffoon flap his potty mouth off, and I can easily do without
"Booooooom Squaaaaad!"
(Repeat add infinitum)
In my PPV, thank you.

[Enlightened-One]

As far as I know it wasn't an official offer. Besides that it was something Hearn wanted as a bait and switch type thing to get Wilder off Joshua's trail. Hearn had promised Wilder the Joshua fight next after Wlad.

Eddie Hearn made an offer to Deontay Wilder, which was even corroborated by the American WBC champ.

Also, part of the reason why Wilder rejected the opportunity, was because Eddie Hearn wouldn't promise Deontay a guaranteed shot at Joshua.

I'm actually a little amazed at the inaccuracy of the claims in your post!

Wilder, Breland and Haymon all said he made a verbal offer. No contract was sent according to Wilder

An offer (written or verbal) is still an "offer" and can be legally binding in most situations and jurisdictions if all the terms have been agreed by both parties.

An offer itself is simply a conditional act being given in exchange for a promise, which is a demonstration to enter into a bargain so that the other party is justified in understanding that their assent to the bargain is invited and will conclude it. The offer itself must only state a willingness to enter into a contract containing a definite proposal of the method communication and the identified terms.

I've had this debate before and can provide lots of boring evidence (that you won't bother to read) in order to prove this.

The terms that were "offered" were rejected. If they would've been accepted, the contract would have been drawn up that would have reflected the terms that were "offered" and verbally "agreed" by both parties.

Team Wilder already concedes that an "offer" was actually made. There's nothing to debate here, since both sides of the negotiating table already concedes this fact as being true, even if you don't!

[Enlightened-One]

“How bad does he want the fight if he is not coming? - Hearn

Eddie Hearn keeps telling Wilder to improve his profile. Yet when Wilder says he is coming over and wants to enter the ring after the fight Hearn tells him "it would be disrespectful."

Hearn does not want Wilder to be Joshua's next opponent. That much is patently obvious, and allowing Wilder to enter the ring at the weekend would be counterproductive to Eddie's narrative.

Deontay Wilder isn’t willing to make the effort to travel to the UK to be ringside at the Joshua-Parker fight.

It serves no purpose (other than raising the American’s own profile) for ‘The Bronze Bomber’ to enter the ring to hype-up a potential bout between himself and AJ without there being an agreement in place for this fight to actually happen.

Wilder hasn’t shown any willingness to compete on UK shores to face Whyte or Joshua and his team have never attempted to make fights between themselves and those guys. All they've been willing to do is listen to offers - nothing else.

Deontay Wilder was promised to be included as part of the Sky Box Office team covering the AJ-Parker PPV event, which would have raised his profile enormously in the UK, far more than it would entering the ring, but he flatly-refuses to do that also.

Apparently, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ would have been paid for his time to travel to the UK, with his lavishly expensive flights and accommodation expenses being paid for also, but he wasn’t willing to make the effort, which strongly suggests that he’s not really interested in facing the likes of Joshua or Whyte.

[Enlightened-One]

“How bad does he want the fight if he is not coming? - Hearn

Eddie Hearn keeps telling Wilder to improve his profile. Yet when Wilder says he is coming over and wants to enter the ring after the fight Hearn tells him "it would be disrespectful."

Hearn does not want Wilder to be Joshua's next opponent. That much is patently obvious, and allowing Wilder to enter the ring at the weekend would be counterproductive to Eddie's narrative.

I think Eddie wants Wilder to build his profile in the UK with his fists and not his mouth.
It would ruin the family atmosphere immediately having that buffoon flap his potty mouth off, and I can easily do without
"Booooooom Squaaaaad!"
(Repeat add infinitum)
In my PPV, thank you.

Excellent post!

[marvelous marv]

Wilder simply complied with AJ's request that he not be there if they had no signed contract for a future showdown.

[Ruthless-RKO]

There is an outside chance that the WBC could order their own eliminator between Povetkin & Whyte (assuming the Russian beats David Price), but this would be pretty unfair, since the Brit has been one of their highest ranked title challengers for a long while now, whilst the “White Tyson” has tested positive on two occasions for banned substances during the lead-up of bouts that were ordered by the WBC.

You've confused yourself EO..

Chagaev was 'White Tyson' not Povetkin. He's the Russian Vityaz or whatever..

Povetkin's apprenticeship was textbook perfect, something that the men and women looking after Anthony Joshua should study, and he beat a solid list of former world champions, challengers and faded bangers to get the crucial rounds.

In private the Russian, who was briefly marketed as the "White Tyson", took part in ferocious sparring sessions that were real fights and the men chosen to "test" him often left with as much as $10,000; they deserved every penny if the stories of savagery are true.

I can provide more articles (lots of them) to prove his old nickname.

If I've "confused" myself, then you'll need to let me know where I've gone wrong.

Briefly? But fair enough. You are actually the first person I've read or heard call Povetkin White Tyson. That's why I questioned it. I thought you got it wrong. Thanks for providing the article..

[KiwiRider]

Eddie Hearn keeps telling Wilder to improve his profile. Yet when Wilder says he is coming over and wants to enter the ring after the fight Hearn tells him "it would be disrespectful."

Hearn does not want Wilder to be Joshua's next opponent. That much is patently obvious, and allowing Wilder to enter the ring at the weekend would be counterproductive to Eddie's narrative.

I think Eddie wants Wilder to build his profile in the UK with his fists and not his mouth.
It would ruin the family atmosphere immediately having that buffoon flap his potty mouth off, and I can easily do without
"Booooooom Squaaaaad!"
(Repeat add infinitum)
In my PPV, thank you.

Excellent post!

Ha, thanks
I thought your first one in this thread was informative. I also had not heard the White Tyson reference. Better for his career that they shelves that one early on.

[Badhusker]

“How bad does he want the fight if he is not coming? - Hearn

Eddie Hearn keeps telling Wilder to improve his profile. Yet when Wilder says he is coming over and wants to enter the ring after the fight Hearn tells him "it would be disrespectful."

Hearn does not want Wilder to be Joshua's next opponent. That much is patently obvious, and allowing Wilder to enter the ring at the weekend would be counterproductive to Eddie's narrative.

Deontay Wilder isn’t willing to make the effort to travel to the UK to be ringside at the Joshua-Parker fight.

It serves no purpose (other than raising the American’s own profile) for ‘The Bronze Bomber’ to enter the ring to hype-up a potential bout between himself and AJ without there being an agreement in place for this fight to actually happen.

Wilder hasn’t shown any willingness to compete on UK shores to face Whyte or Joshua and his team have never attempted to make fights between themselves and those guys. All they've been willing to do is listen to offers - nothing else.

Deontay Wilder was promised to be included as part of the Sky Box Office team covering the AJ-Parker PPV event, which would have raised his profile enormously in the UK, far more than it would entering the ring, but he flatly-refuses to do that also.

Apparently, ‘The Bronze Bomber’ would have been paid for his time to travel to the UK, with his lavishly expensive flights and accommodation expenses being paid for also, but he wasn’t willing to make the effort, which strongly suggests that he’s not really interested in facing the likes of Joshua or Whyte.

Not sure why I am bothering, but sometimes can't stand the crap and lies I see typed by EO. First I read that a verbal offer is as legally binding as a signed contract, and is therefore official, now this.

Wilder said he is going to the fight, and both Hearn and Joshua didn't want him in the ring afterwards. Why wouldn't he go? He is afraid to fight Whyte and Joshua?

[Enlightened-One]

Not sure why I am bothering, but sometimes can't stand the crap and lies I see typed by EO. First I read that a verbal offer is as legally binding as a signed contract, and is therefore official...

I didn't say that, so stop lying.

Learn to read instead of commenting on things you don't understand. Pretending that I’ve claimed something when I obviously haven’t only serves to undermine your own credibility, since it’s categorically impossible for you to back-up your own claims.

If you think I'm wrong, then prove otherwise by quoting my actual words instead of misrepresenting them.

Wilder said he is going to the fight... Why wouldn't he go? He is afraid to fight Whyte and Joshua?

Several media reports published within the last 24 hours have claimed that Wilder has changed his mind and won't be travelling to Cardiff after all.

Check for yourself prior to criticising someone that has chosen to keep themselves well-informed of the situation, since it’s been well publicised. I haven't made this up.

Apparently Wilder was supposed to be part of the TV commentary team for Sky Sports UK but has has withdrawn and is no longer travelling to the UK.

Johnny Nelson (Sky Sports) and Eddie Hearn (Matchroom) have both confirmed this. Hopefully the American will change his mind, but the current understanding is that he's not going to be attending the Joshua-Parker bout in the UK.

[asdfjkl]

I wonder what Wilder will do, he now finally won a real fight, will he avoid even going to the UK at all, or will he fight more real opponents? Molina for the 2nd time or so.