Cook Vs DIaz

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Apr 2006, 09:23

Whats both fighters like?

Ain't seen either but the bbc says the winner wil fight the winner of Akashi Koshimoto and Mexico's Rudy Lopez.

Now what happened to Soto who holds the interim title? Isn't he getting his shot?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4913272.stm

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 17 Apr 2006, 14:08

Havn't a clue how these interim things work. Best example for utter confusion is at flyweight. Jorge Arce won the interim title in July last year, and has now defended it 4 times.

I don't know the reason why an interim title was created in the first place -Wonjongkam faught the day before Arce first won the interim title, so it wasn't like he was injured. Anyway, Wonjongkam has defended the 'proper' title twice (three times come May) since then yet so far never have the two met.

I can only guess that the two holders are only forced in to meeting within a certain time span (ie. a year) rather than having to fight next time out.

That makes Klitchko-Rachman all the more strange though, because Klitchko was (or would have been) forced to make Rachman as interim champ his first defence upon return from injury.

Hope that's cleared things up for you Max

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Apr 2006, 15:33

The proper champs have to face the interim ones eventually hence why Klitschko had to fight Rahman.

So I'm sure Taskashi would have to fight Soto first then the winner of Cook and Diaz which is hopefully and should be Cook.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Apr 2006, 20:44

Why is Koshimoto fighting some guy ranked 17th in the WBC?

I thought they could oly defend their title against the top 14?

And what about Soto?

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 20 Apr 2006, 21:39

Soto has renounced his interim title and has moved
up to super featherweight where the $Money$ and *Stars* are.

Now that the sport of boxing is dead and the business of boxing has taken over;
Featherweight champs now defend their titles against 2nd & 3rd raters.

Upcoming Featherweight Championship schedule:
May 13 IBF Valdemir Pereira vs Esham Pickering
May 20 WBO Scott Harrison vs Martin Honorio
July 2 WBA Chris John vs Renan Acosta
July 30 WBC Takashi Koshimoto vs Rodolfo Lopez

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 21 Apr 2006, 04:01

Soto has renounced his interim title and has moved
up to super featherweight where the $Money$ and *Stars* are.

Now that the sport of boxing is dead and the business of boxing has taken over;
Featherweight champs now defend their titles against 2nd & 3rd raters.

Upcoming Featherweight Championship schedule:
May 13 IBF Valdemir Pereira vs Esham Pickering
May 20 WBO Scott Harrison vs Martin Honorio
July 2 WBA Chris John vs Renan Acosta
July 30 WBC Takashi Koshimoto vs Rodolfo Lopez

Doesn't look good, and people complain when boxers don't move up in weight

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Apr 2006, 06:03

Lenny Albert wrote:
Soto has renounced his interim title and has moved
up to super featherweight where the $Money$ and *Stars* are.

Now that the sport of boxing is dead and the business of boxing has taken over;
Featherweight champs now defend their titles against 2nd & 3rd raters.

Upcoming Featherweight Championship schedule:
May 13 IBF Valdemir Pereira vs Esham Pickering
May 20 WBO Scott Harrison vs Martin Honorio
July 2 WBA Chris John vs Renan Acosta
July 30 WBC Takashi Koshimoto vs Rodolfo Lopez
Doesn't look good, and people complain when boxers don't move up in weight

i hear JM Marquez is coming after Pereira soon

BigEars · Post by **BigEars** » 21 Apr 2006, 12:28

Max Molyneux wrote:Why is Koshimoto fighting some guy ranked 17th in the WBC?

I thought they could oly defend their title against the top 14?

It's meant to be the top 15th although special dispensation can be given to fight a fighter not in that top 15 . This is usually when somone is a late replacement but even then they are usually very strict and if dispensation is allowed it will probably be to fight a fighter in the top 20/25 .

glahn · Post by **glahn** » 21 Apr 2006, 13:21

Blue wrote: Soto has renounced his interim title and has moved
up to super featherweight where the $Money$ and *Stars* are.

Now that the sport of boxing is dead and the business of boxing has taken over;
Featherweight champs now defend their titles against 2nd & 3rd raters.

Upcoming Featherweight Championship schedule:
May 13 IBF Valdemir Pereira vs Esham Pickering
May 20 WBO Scott Harrison vs Martin Honorio
July 2 WBA Chris John vs Renan Acosta
July 30 WBC Takashi Koshimoto vs Rodolfo Lopez

That really is depressing. Not one of the contenders are world class, and only two of the champions are close to it.

Blue · Post by **Blue** » 22 Apr 2006, 19:38

Blue wrote: Soto has renounced his interim title and has moved
up to super featherweight where the $Money$ and *Stars* are.

Now that the sport of boxing is dead and the business of boxing has taken over;
Featherweight champs now defend their titles against 2nd & 3rd raters.

Upcoming Featherweight Championship schedule:
May 13 IBF Valdemir Pereira vs Esham Pickering
May 20 WBO Scott Harrison vs Martin Honorio
July 2 WBA Chris John vs Renan Acosta
July 30 WBC Takashi Koshimoto vs Rodolfo Lopez

Today’s Mexican tabloid Esto (Sat. 22nd) said Soto has changed
his mind and has decided to defend his interim WBC 126 title.
It will be sometime in June at Las Vegas.

tcwilliams · Post by **tcwilliams** » 23 Apr 2006, 07:45

fornicate why don't the big TV companies stop this shit and say we won't 1 world champion not super champs or interium,if not no money problem fixed

BigEars · Post by **BigEars** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:02

tcwilliams wrote:smeg why don't the big TV companies stop this shit and say we won't 1 world champion not super champs or interium,if not no money problem fixed

Because they feel that would reduce viewing figuires , if they air a bout for a 'world title' they feel that more people will watch and if there's less 'world titles' then there's less 'world title' fights and therefore less fights where they can feel they are conning people into watching the best in the sport .

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:16

BigEars wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Why is Koshimoto fighting some guy ranked 17th in the WBC?

I thought they could oly defend their title against the top 14?
It's meant to be the top 15th although special dispensation can be given to fight a fighter not in that top 15 . This is usually when somone is a late replacement but even then they are usually very strict and if dispensation is allowed it will probably be to fight a fighter in the top 20/25 .

Lopez ain't no late replacement though.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 23 Apr 2006, 08:30

It's funny the way people want explanations for the actions of the sanctioning bodies. They don't need to give one, as fucked up as that is.