Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 12 May 2018, 10:47

Lomachenko - Decision
26
43%
Lomachenko - KO/TKO
28
47%
DRAW
2
3%
Linares - KO/TKO
3
5%
Linares - Decision
1
2%
 
Total votes: 60

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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Oiky wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 17:25 Chenko is in a class of his own
You reckon Linares will retire on his stool?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 07:49
Oiky wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 17:25 Chenko is in a class of his own
You reckon Linares will retire on his stool?
I don't think he will no,
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Oiky wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 08:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 07:49
Oiky wrote: 14 Mar 2018, 17:25 Chenko is in a class of his own
You reckon Linares will retire on his stool?
I don't think he will no,
Neither do I.. I think he'd rather lose 120-108 than retire..
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Lomachenko stoppage
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 08:33
Oiky wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 08:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 07:49

You reckon Linares will retire on his stool?
I don't think he will no,
Neither do I.. I think he'd rather lose 120-108 than retire..
Me to, I'll be very very suprised if Linares retires
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Oiky wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 10:49 Me to, I'll be very very suprised if Linares retires
Walters let himself down and hasn't fought since.

Sosa knew he couldn't win the fight and then went onto be robbed IMO in his next fight

Mariagga (sic) - No comment

Rigo let himself down..

I don't think Linares will follow.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Mar 2018, 07:52
Oiky wrote: 17 Mar 2018, 10:49 Me to, I'll be very very suprised if Linares retires
Walters let himself down and hasn't fought since.

Sosa knew he couldn't win the fight and then went onto be robbed IMO in his next fight

Mariagga (sic) - No comment

Rigo let himself down..

I don't think Linares will follow.
Walters was an embarrassment

I was suprised at Rigo, he did let himself down

Yeah Linares is made of sterner stuff
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Ticket Information

Promoted by Top Rank, in association with Golden Boy Promotions, Teiken Promotions, and Madison Square Garden, tickets will go on sale to the general public at 12 p.m. EST on Friday, March 23. Priced at $506, $406, $306, $206, $106, and $56, including facility fees, tickets can be purchased at the Madison Square Garden Box Office, all Ticketmaster outlets, Ticketmaster charge by phone (866-858-0008), and online at www.ticketmaster.com and www.MSG.com.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Michael Conlan Added To Lomachenko vs. Linares at MSG

It has now been revealed that he will fight on May 12, live on ESPN again, as part of the supporting cast to Jorge Linares’ WBA world lightweight title defence against Vasyl Lomachenko as he looks to move to 7-0.

Carlos Adames, Teofimo Lopez, Shakur Stevenson and Fazliddin Gaibnazarov are also set for action on the card, with further additions to be revealed in due course.

"Hopefully we'll be able to get a fight with someone undefeated because I want to step up again and show what I can do," Conlan said.

"It felt great to be in there against Berna. The fans turned out and the atmosphere was simply amazing. I wish the fight had gone on longer but that's the way it goes sometimes."
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Loma points.

Linares is great at putting his shots together on the front foot but if Loma can beat him to the punch (which I think he will) and disrupt his rhythm he can frustrate Linares and keep him under control all night.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Linares May Have New Trainer For Lomachenko Fight, Says Salas

According to Linares' longime coach, Ismael Salas, the Venezuelan boxer will likely have a new trainer in his corner.

There are scheduling conflicts at play, which created the current situation.

Salas is in London, where he is currently training David Haye for his May 5th rematch with Tony Bellew at the O2 Arena. Salas had started training Haye for that contest, before the Linares-Lomachenko deal was finalized and very few expected the contest to actually push through.

Before Salas had accepted the assignment to train Haye, Linares did not have a scheduled fight and gave the trainer his blessing to accept the position.

Linares, who is currently training in Tokyo, was initially scheduled to fly over to London to train side by side with Haye and Salas.

Those plans have now changed, says Salas.

Linares has decided to continue working in Japan and then switch the second stage of his preparation to Las Vegas - and remain training there until the fight.

More than likely Linares did not want to adjust to the numerous time difference between Japan, the UK and New York City.

"It seems that (Linares) will not come to London and the second part of the camp will be held in Las Vegas until the moment of traveling to New York. If that is confirmed, as it seems to be happening, I will not be in his corner," Salas told ESPN Deportes.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Linares Clarifies Salas Situation, Training For Lomachenko

"Unfortunately, the timing is not on our side for this fight.(Salas) had already been training David Haye and he fights on May 5th and that's only a week prior to my fight," said Linares, through his manager Jose De La Cruz, to BS.com.

"I think that being familiar with fighting championship fights in the past, it doesn't mean I don't need him but we'll have a nice strategy in place and we feel with the team we have on hand that can can win this fight."

The likes of boxing veteran Rudy Hernandez will be part of the team helping prepare Linares for what is the most daunting challenge of his career.

Linares continued - "It's happened to me in the past when he couldn't travel to Japan in 2014 when I won without him. In the fight against (Luke) Campbell we had half the camp in the U.K. and did half of the training in Vegas and we won the fight. But a fight of this caliber you just can't travel out there and come back and forth and back and forth."

Also, the Venezuelan believes that logistically Las Vegas is the ideal setting for this training camp.

"In the UK we don't have a house, we don't have a physical trainer, we don't have my team. There's quite a few things we don't have. The weather, it's always raining (out there). This is my biggest fight and it just did not work out, timing was not on our side," he explained.

"In Las Vegas we have a home, family, trainers - we have everything. And at the end of the day I'm the one going up in the ring and if I don't have Salas it's not going to be an excuse whether we win or lose. It's me who's fighting, it's training, it's me putting 200-percent into this fight. We have everything, here, we have our own gym, we have the mountains in Las Vegas. We have everything you can think off.

"You only get one chance, this might be my biggest fight at this weight class so we're going to take advantage of it and go out there and win the fight."
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Lomachenko-Linares - Undercard Information, Olympians Return

Welterweight contender Carlos ‘Caballo Bronco’ Adames (13-0, 11 KOs) will make his Top Rank debut in the 10-round, ESPN-televised co-feature against Alejandro Barrera (27-4, 17 KOs); Irish sensation Michael Conlan (6-0, 5 KOs) will see action in an eight-round featherweight contest against Ibon Larrinaga (10-1, 2 KOs); Jamel Herring (16-2, 9 KOs) takes on the durable Juan Pablo Sanchez (29-15, 14 KOs) in an eight-round lightweight bout; top lightweight prospect Teofimo Lopez (8-0, 6 KOs) faces veteran Vitor Freitas (13-1, 7 KOs) of Salvador, Brazil, in a scheduled eight-rounder; female boxing sensation Mikaela Mayer (4-0, 3 KOs) will face Baby Nansen (6-2-1, 0 KOs) of Auckland, New Zealand, in a six-round lightweight fight; and 2016 Olympic gold medalist Fazliddin ‘Fayzi' Gaibnazarov (3-0, 1 KO) returns in a scheduled eight-rounder against Jesus Silveyra (8-5-2, 3 KOs) of Monterrey, Mexico.

Linares vs. Lomachenko and Adames vs. Barrera will be televised live and exclusively at 8:00 p.m. ET on ESPN and ESPN Deportes, and undercard bouts will stream live on the ESPN App beginning at 4:30 p.m. ET.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Really poor undercard. They really need to step Conlon up after this.
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:36 Really poor undercard. They really need to step Conlon up after this.
Arum always places loads of prospects and upcomers on Loma's cards.. Mostly been the case recently. The Loma-Rigo card was poor too..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:54
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:36 Really poor undercard. They really need to step Conlon up after this.
Arum always places loads of prospects and upcomers on Loma's cards.. Mostly been the case recently. The Loma-Rigo card was poor too..
Yeah that was poor! Makes it harder to stay up late if the undercard is pish!
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Anyone ready for this?

What's the undercard saing?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 May 2018, 11:42 Anyone ready for this?

What's the undercard saing?
From BadLeftHook.com: The roster of unbeatens includes Michael Conlan (6-0, 5 KO), Carlos Adames (13-0, 11 KO), Teofimo Lopez Jr. (8-0, 6 KO), Mikaela Mayer (4-0, 3 KO), and Rio gold medalist Fazliddin Gaibnazarov (3-0, 1 KO). All of them are facing boxing’s greatest ironman, TBA.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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oogiebe wrote: 07 May 2018, 11:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 May 2018, 11:42 Anyone ready for this?

What's the undercard saing?
From BadLeftHook.com: The roster of unbeatens includes Michael Conlan (6-0, 5 KO), Carlos Adames (13-0, 11 KO), Teofimo Lopez Jr. (8-0, 6 KO), Mikaela Mayer (4-0, 3 KO), and Rio gold medalist Fazliddin Gaibnazarov (3-0, 1 KO). All of them are facing boxing’s greatest ironman, TBA.
Ah its the same as Loma-Rigo.

Arum just placing prospects. The same ones as well on Loma's undercard. Yes, they can be exciting but sometimes I like to see a good chief support.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 May 2018, 12:48
oogiebe wrote: 07 May 2018, 11:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 May 2018, 11:42 Anyone ready for this?

What's the undercard saing?
From BadLeftHook.com: The roster of unbeatens includes Michael Conlan (6-0, 5 KO), Carlos Adames (13-0, 11 KO), Teofimo Lopez Jr. (8-0, 6 KO), Mikaela Mayer (4-0, 3 KO), and Rio gold medalist Fazliddin Gaibnazarov (3-0, 1 KO). All of them are facing boxing’s greatest ironman, TBA.
Ah its the same as Loma-Rigo.

Arum just placing prospects. The same ones as well on Loma's undercard. Yes, they can be exciting but sometimes I like to see a good chief support.
I agree. One 'grind it out' fight on the undercard would be sweet. Can never tell with prospects what we'll get.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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I'm leaning toward Loma to take a decision here, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Loma stop him on cuts either. Linares has had bad cuts and excessive bleeding before, and I think Loma is certainly capable of slicing him up again.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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I might be deluding myself here (Christ knows that's happened before), but all those who've KO'd Linares hit like a truck & were big strong types who took it to him & wrecked him. Lomachenko ain't that fighter, for all his wondrous talents & abilities.

Mind, it's not out of the realms of possibility that a thirty-something Linares, getting busted up & knowing he's not won a round against a guy he cannot stop hitting him & just will not slow down, says "Fvck this for a lark" & stays on his stool...

But I remember Linares, face literally falling off & utterly exhausted, getting badly hurt by the bigger, stronger De Marco & wailing back at his man even as he was wobbling all around the ring. If he's gonna go out in this one, if I was a betting man I'd bet for Jorge to go out on his shield.
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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Datsue wrote: 07 May 2018, 16:24 I might be deluding myself here (Christ knows that's happened before), but all those who've KO'd Linares hit like a truck & were big strong types who took it to him & wrecked him. Lomachenko ain't that fighter, for all his wondrous talents & abilities.

Mind, it's not out of the realms of possibility that a thirty-something Linares, getting busted up & knowing he's not won a round against a guy he cannot stop hitting him & just will not slow down, says "Fvck this for a lark" & stays on his stool...

But I remember Linares, face literally falling off & utterly exhausted, getting badly hurt by the bigger, stronger De Marco & wailing back at his man even as he was wobbling all around the ring. If he's gonna go out in this one, if I was a betting man I'd bet for Jorge to go out on his shield.
Can't say I 100% agree, but you made me go Hmmmmmmm...
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Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jorge Linares - 12 May 2018

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astradamus wrote: 07 May 2018, 17:14 I think this match is a lot closer then many people might expect, Linares really ain't that bad, he got a lot longer reach and it's in his weightclass right? Also, he's not over the hill, he had his losses early in his carreer.
Fair point. Many of us (me included) see Loma as a terrific ring technician, perhaps the best today. Sometimes it doesn't have to do with the opponent, but the fighter (Loma). You may be end up spot on here. I hope you're right!
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