Joseph Parker couldn't KO Fury Jr

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Joseph Parker couldn't KO Fury Jr

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Chased Fury for 12 rounds apparently and couldn't put him away.
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Had big problems landing on him. Fury was very negative. That ultimately cost him the fight.
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couldnt hurt fury, ruiz, or cojanu. look at how don dennis ktfo cojanu early. think a few others had him down too.

big josh is gonna lay the brutality down. hes the best hw since lewis.
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Yeah, it's a bit odd that Parker looked so devastating when he stepped up against Dimitrenko & blew right through him looking like a big puncher, but then in his following three fights vs Ruiz, Conjanu & Fury, he failed to score so much as a single knockdown. Which, could be excused as we don't yet know the real level of Ruiz or Fury just yet. But, we've seen Conjanu's as it's definitely not high.
So, Parker's punching power is definitely questionable.
But, Parker's people have said that he wasn't punching with power for those fights due to an injured elbow which has been surgically repaired in the interim. So, I suppose we shall see if that makes any difference.
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A bit unfair to judge Parker’s power on the Fury fight, most heavyweights would struggle to land on a guy who just ran for 12 rounds. But overall, yeah Parker doesn’t look to be a big puncher.
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Boxing isn't just about KO's.

We need to remember that styles make fights and sometimes a fighter doesn't have to be particularly heavy-handed in order to force the stoppage. As the old saying goes, sometimes dripping water wears away stone.
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sweetviolenturge wrote: 29 Mar 2018, 04:49 Yeah, it's a bit odd that Parker looked so devastating when he stepped up against Dimitrenko & blew right through him looking like a big puncher, but then in his following three fights vs Ruiz, Conjanu & Fury, he failed to score so much as a single knockdown. Which, could be excused as we don't yet know the real level of Ruiz or Fury just yet. But, we've seen Conjanu's as it's definitely not high.
So, Parker's punching power is definitely questionable.
But, Parker's people have said that he wasn't punching with power for those fights due to an injured elbow which has been surgically repaired in the interim. So, I suppose we shall see if that makes any difference.
Dimitrenko once got put over by a left hook from Eddie Chambers.

Eddie.

Chambers.



KO'ing him (at what, forty? Plus?) isn't saying much, is it? Pulev knocked him out with a jab, FFS.

Three guys Parker's fought (Fury, Takam & Ruiz) who have shown some degree of punch resistance, & three times he's failed to budge them (though, to be fair, he only connected flush with Hughie like twice).

I simply do not buy that he's ever carried devastating power. He's a strong lad & I'd certainly not like to take a clump from him but his myriad of other deficiencies (shit jab, awful defence, terribly slow feet, almost no head movement) mean that he's going to get mullered & he doesn't even have a true puncher's chance to hang it on, IMO.
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Datsue wrote: 29 Mar 2018, 07:59
sweetviolenturge wrote: 29 Mar 2018, 04:49 Yeah, it's a bit odd that Parker looked so devastating when he stepped up against Dimitrenko & blew right through him looking like a big puncher, but then in his following three fights vs Ruiz, Conjanu & Fury, he failed to score so much as a single knockdown. Which, could be excused as we don't yet know the real level of Ruiz or Fury just yet. But, we've seen Conjanu's as it's definitely not high.
So, Parker's punching power is definitely questionable.
But, Parker's people have said that he wasn't punching with power for those fights due to an injured elbow which has been surgically repaired in the interim. So, I suppose we shall see if that makes any difference.
Dimitrenko once got put over by a left hook from Eddie Chambers.

Eddie.

Chambers.

KO'ing him (at what, forty? Plus?) isn't saying much, is it? Pulev knocked him out with a jab, FFS.

Three guys Parker's fought (Fury, Takam & Ruiz) who have shown some degree of punch resistance, & three times he's failed to budge them (though, to be fair, he only connected flush with Hughie like twice).

I simply do not buy that he's ever carried devastating power. He's a strong lad & I'd certainly not like to take a clump from him but his myriad of other deficiencies (poo jab, awful defence, terribly slow feet, almost no head movement) mean that he's going to get mullered & he doesn't even have a true puncher's chance to hang it on, IMO.
It's also worth noting that he finished Dimitrenko with a 100% illegal shot. I'm not saying the fight was going to end any other way (it wasn't) but he blasted the guy in the ribs while he was kneeling in front of him.

His only chance is to wear Joshua down and lay on a barrage of punches, he could maybe get a sympathetic referee to call it off. I don't think he can lay any top-level heavyweight out with one punch and I don't think he expects to.
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Most any heavyweight have the chance to KO his opponent. To say COULDN'T doesn't make much sense. Parker CAN KO Joshua, I just don't think it'll happen this fight.
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Quite amusing but i’ll Let you know that Cojanu is Parker’s sparring partner and Parker has dropped him multiple times during sparring since his elbow surgery .
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Grailer wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 12:06 Quite amusing but i’ll Let you know that Cojanu is Parker’s sparring partner and Parker has dropped him multiple times during sparring since his elbow surgery .
I hope you are right and this could be a competitive fight.
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Regarding the original commentary of the thread header...no one has kayoed Fury...
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He ain't that good, but he has improved. Only 21 but has tons to learn.
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jamamb wrote: 29 Mar 2018, 01:56 couldnt hurt fury, ruiz, or cojanu. look at how don dennis ktfo cojanu early. think a few others had him down too.

big josh is gonna lay the brutality down. hes the best hw since lewis.
I'm going to start calling you a BoxRec warrior just like Jokeos.
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do what you like princess :lol:

not as emphatic as expected but clear as day win for big josh
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jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:32 do what you like princess :lol:

not as emphatic as expected but clear as day win for big josh
Tell me how he didn't KO Cojanu again, but he had Joshua in his cage the whole fight. :yay:

You're a joke, man. Completely wrong all the time. :wave:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 29 Mar 2018, 05:02 Boxing isn't just about KO's.

We need to remember that styles make fights and sometimes a fighter doesn't have to be particularly heavy-handed in order to force the stoppage. As the old saying goes, sometimes dripping water wears away stone.
Well said.
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By the way, this was more of a testament to the division. It's terrible, and Usyk completely cleans it out once he decides to move up. Everyone is just keeping the belts warm for this juggernaut.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:37
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:32 do what you like princess :lol:

not as emphatic as expected but clear as day win for big josh
Tell me how he didn't KO Cojanu again, but he had Joshua in his cage the whole fight. :yay:

You're a joke, man. Completely wrong all the time. :wave:
joshua never got out of first gear yet won easily. parkers power wasnt a factor at all. joe speed was his best attirbute by far and what led him to his limited success.
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jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:43
Mexi-Box wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:37
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:32 do what you like princess :lol:

not as emphatic as expected but clear as day win for big josh
Tell me how he didn't KO Cojanu again, but he had Joshua in his cage the whole fight. :yay:

You're a joke, man. Completely wrong all the time. :wave:
joshua never got out of first gear yet won easily. parkers power wasnt a factor at all. joe speed was his best attirbute by far and what led him to his limited success.
I'm sure that's why Joshua wasn't throwing and folding up when Parker attacked the body. FFS, maybe you aren't a BoxRec warrior. Maybe you're just blind, deaf, and dumb. Keep making yourself look foolish. :OhYes:
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ya, because speed isnt at all a factor that can drop outputs :lol:
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jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:50 ya, because speed isnt at all a factor that can drop outputs :lol:
There is also those big punches waiting for you at your first mistake. :KO:

As I said, you're just a wholesome moron. Usyk and Fury school Joshua, and you're furious now that you are, once again, wrong. :OhYes:
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Joseph stands in front of Joshua all night in the. Corner many times and Joshua can’t even knock him out .

How will he knock out a guy like Fury who moves so good and has longer reach ?
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jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 19:50 ya, because speed isnt at all a factor that can drop outputs :lol:
It seemed to me that you are right...Parker brought something foreign to AJ...AJ did what he had to do to win. Parker provided some uncertainty. AJ turned tactics and kept parker on the end of his punches.
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