The undisputed, Joshua vs. Wilder, 2018 ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 31 Mar 2018, 18:45

Who wins ? How ?

Badhusker · Post by **Badhusker** » 31 Mar 2018, 19:53

If in the UK, Joshua will win as wide as he did Parker if it goes to a decision. Joshua is the new Canelo as far as that goes.

Joshua is a better over-all boxer, but I am confident that Wilder will KO Joshua, because he is slow as molasses in January. If Parker can get out of the way of most of his punches with a big height and reach disadvantage, Wilder's speed and vicious power shots will end it for Joshua. He can't win a decision in the UK. It should be a neutral venue.

Mexi-Box · Post by **Mexi-Box** » 31 Mar 2018, 19:56

Joshua outboxes and KO's Wilder. Easy prediction to make. Wilder would've lost if he was fighting Parker tonight. Man, the division is so bad at the moment. I can't wait for Usyk to move up and clean it out.

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 31 Mar 2018, 20:00

Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:53 If in the UK, Joshua will win as wide as he did Parker if it goes to a decision. Joshua is the new Canelo as far as that goes.

Joshua is a better over-all boxer, but I am confident that Wilder will KO Joshua, because he is slow as molasses in January. If Parker can get out of the way of most of his punches with a big height and reach disadvantage, Wilder's speed and vicious power shots will end it for Joshua. He can't win a decision in the UK. It should be a neutral venue.

Parker, however, has much, much better balance comparing to Wilder. Parker actually has a great balance while Wilder has an awful one. Both are fast, but of course Wilder is much taller and hits much harder. The KO in Wilder - Joshua fight is much more likely than in was in Joshua - Parker fight.

I'd estimate the possibilities of this Josh - Wilder ending this way:

Joshua by decision - 15%
Joshua by KO - 40%
Wilder by KO - 45%

I can't imagine Wilder winning this fight on points. escecially if it will be held in UK.

NateJR · Post by **NateJR** » 31 Mar 2018, 20:52

50/50 fight. Although my gut tells me, Wilder wins by KO after trailing most the fight. AJ clearly has some stamina issues down the stretch. I really don't have a dog in the fight, I just want the fight to happen ASAP at this point.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 31 Mar 2018, 21:05

NateJR wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:52 50/50 fight. Although my gut tells me, Wilder wins by KO after trailing most the fight. AJ clearly has some stamina issues down the stretch. I really don't have a dog in the fight, I just want the fight to happen ASAP at this point.

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Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 31 Mar 2018, 23:29

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:00
Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:53 If in the UK, Joshua will win as wide as he did Parker if it goes to a decision. Joshua is the new Canelo as far as that goes.

Joshua is a better over-all boxer, but I am confident that Wilder will KO Joshua, because he is slow as molasses in January. If Parker can get out of the way of most of his punches with a big height and reach disadvantage, Wilder's speed and vicious power shots will end it for Joshua. He can't win a decision in the UK. It should be a neutral venue.
Parker, however, has much, much better balance comparing to Wilder. Parker actually has a great balance while Wilder has an awful one. Both are fast, but of course Wilder is much taller and hits much harder. The KO in Wilder - Joshua fight is much more likely than in was in Joshua - Parker fight.

I'd estimate the possibilities of this Josh - Wilder ending this way:

Joshua by decision - 15%
Joshua by KO - 40%
Wilder by decision - 45%

I can't imagine Wilder winning this fight on points. escecially if it will be held in UK.

So did you mean to write Wilder by KO 45% instead of by decision 45%?

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 01 Apr 2018, 00:15

ValMar wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 18:45 Who wins ? How ?

I don't know for sure who wins, but I'm pretty damn sure HOW they'll win.

Boxing Writer · Post by **Boxing Writer** » 01 Apr 2018, 02:25

Best Coast wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 23:29
Boxing Writer wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:00
Badhusker wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:53 If in the UK, Joshua will win as wide as he did Parker if it goes to a decision. Joshua is the new Canelo as far as that goes.

Joshua is a better over-all boxer, but I am confident that Wilder will KO Joshua, because he is slow as molasses in January. If Parker can get out of the way of most of his punches with a big height and reach disadvantage, Wilder's speed and vicious power shots will end it for Joshua. He can't win a decision in the UK. It should be a neutral venue.
Parker, however, has much, much better balance comparing to Wilder. Parker actually has a great balance while Wilder has an awful one. Both are fast, but of course Wilder is much taller and hits much harder. The KO in Wilder - Joshua fight is much more likely than in was in Joshua - Parker fight.

I'd estimate the possibilities of this Josh - Wilder ending this way:

Joshua by decision - 15%
Joshua by KO - 40%
Wilder by decision - 45%

I can't imagine Wilder winning this fight on points. escecially if it will be held in UK.
So did you mean to write Wilder by KO 45% instead of by decision 45%?

Yes, definitely

candyslim · Post by **candyslim** » 01 Apr 2018, 02:38

I say Joshua by knock-out but I'm biased and there is more than a suggestion of wishful thinking no doubt.

unfairlane · Post by **unfairlane** » 01 Apr 2018, 03:11

Wilder is "much taller"? You mean like one inch?

Wonder if Wilder will be able to knock out Joshua. He is a good boxer with a good chin, and not afraid od Wilder like the others.

No knock = no win

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 01 Apr 2018, 05:13

Parker fight has shown, that Joshua doesn't feel very good against mobile opponents. Wilder can be like that, furthermore, he's far more awkward, than Parker or anybody else Joshua has met. However, I still pick AJ, but I won't predict very convincing perforance for him. Close decision is most likely for the moment. And KO chances for Wilder are bigger, as I see it now.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 01 Apr 2018, 07:37

I'm undecided at this moment, but I lean more towards Joshua, more than likely on points.

greg · Post by **greg** » 01 Apr 2018, 07:43

..the gut feeling tells me it's Joshua but hey, there's only one way to find out..

asdfjkl · Post by **asdfjkl** » 01 Apr 2018, 07:54

Let's be honest, if it will happen, Wilder will have to accept a really low payday, Wilder is doing all the dumb choices he could make and avoids all the right choices desperately.

For me, AJ is already the unified champion, Wilder his best win ever is, and will probably always remain, Luiz Ortiz.

Here is what Hearn said about it:

Badhusker · Post by **Badhusker** » 01 Apr 2018, 16:38

Wilder will never win a decision on the UK. He would be a fool yo fight there.
I would not even seem interested anymore. He's been chasing,AJ 9and Hearn running.Make Joshua come to the US or no fight.

greg · Post by **greg** » 01 Apr 2018, 16:56

Badhusker wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 16:38 Wilder will never win a decision on the UK. He would be a fool yo fight there.
I would not even seem interested anymore. He's been chasing,AJ 9and Hearn running.Make Joshua come to the US or no fight.

..well, home town decisions is nothing new, however it's worth mentioning that the Brits don't appoint up to 4 local judges/referees to officiate boxing matches..so, I would say that Joshua is in a bigger danger to be screwed in the States than vise versa..