Who has the best Ring intelligence in boxing history?

Most intelligent boxer ever?

Vitali Klitchsko
3
19%
Keith Thurman
1
6%
David Haye
0
No votes
Anthony Joshua
1
6%
Chris Eubank Jr
3
19%
Wilt Chamberlain
8
50%
 
Total votes: 16

oogiebe
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Kalan wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 13:00 Get your head out of your dick hole oogie... You're so narrow minded it's ridiculous... Just :stop: stalking me. and come up with your own ideas Delbert... You write the most embarrassing garbage imaginable.
How (and why) can I be stalking you if you keep replying to me? I hear you changed your mind! What did you do with the diaper?
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I keep trying to fart you off.... but you keep hanging on like a stubborn dingleberry... You need to be flushed... :shame:

Bye now... :wave:
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You placed Eubank in a group of the smartest boxers in history :lol:

Alongside Willie Pep, Salvador Sanchez and Floyd Mayweather :lol:
BitPlayer
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I'm not really sure Paulie Malignaggi, James Toney and Jake LaMotta are some of the dumbest boxers in history either.
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BitPlayer wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 16:14 I'm not really sure Paulie Malignaggi, James Toney and Jake LaMotta are some of the dumbest boxers in history either.
Toney fighting an MMA guy in MMA??? That = dumb unless you train for a long time. He didn't know shitt ....... Malignaggi's performance vs Porter??? Repeatedly getting suckered into devastating left hooks that eventually knocked Paulie cold??? = dumb ..... Not learning how to defend yourself better than that is dumb as Hell... The same could be said of LaMotta who was just as wide open as Paulie, but could take it.

Jake attempting to tank a fight while also preserving his record of never being knocked down, and making it so obvious he's hauled before the commission??? = dumb as Hell ..... Taking a million punches until the referee is forced to save your life and then blabbering through a battered face "Ya didn knock me down Ray... Ya never knocked me down" = dumb

Just getting hit doesn't make you dumb - because all boxers get hit... But getting suckered into big shots and not making corrections and adjustments is really dumb... Also coming into fights out of shape and 50 pounds overweight is dumb... Toney was a very clever boxer... But just his laziness and not training right has to be up there in dumb fukness.
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Kalan wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 14:39 Senior says his son is better than he was and I think he would know better than you... Senior lost 5 and drew 2... He said his son has the speed of Calzaghe with more power... I know a lot of that is Senior's verbosity and hype, but he believes it.

What they're missing is a sense of distance, range, counter punching excellence, and more work on the jab and footwork. Eubank certainly has time enough to get those parts done... He's also smart enough... Wait for the finished product.

How long did it take Wladimir Klitschko to achieve All Time Greatness??? .... He was in his mid 30's; patience man.
Kalan, there is a well known phrase in the UK; it goes like this, "If my auntie had bollocks, she'd be my uncle".

You can take any half decent fighter & add five or so attributes to them & they would be great fighters.

You maybe right, Eubank Jr might be a great fighter if he had those aforementioned attributes, but the fact remains, he doesn't

I might even concur with you if he was the studious type who listened to his corner, but he doesn't even do that.

He has a father who excelled in the profession & his trainer giving his advice & yet he still doesn't listen.

His 2 defeats have followed the same path, so he certainly has not learnt yet, so what makes you think he's suddenly going to start listening & learning now?
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Kalan wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 16:50
BitPlayer wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 16:14 I'm not really sure Paulie Malignaggi, James Toney and Jake LaMotta are some of the dumbest boxers in history either.
Toney fighting an MMA guy in MMA??? That = dumb unless you train for a long time. He didn't know shitt ....... Malignaggi's performance vs Porter??? Repeatedly getting suckered into devastating left hooks that eventually knocked Paulie cold??? = dumb ..... Not learning how to defend yourself better than that is dumb as Hell... The same could be said of LaMotta who was just as wide open as Paulie, but could take it.

Jake attempting to tank a fight while also preserving his record of never being knocked down, and making it so obvious he's hauled before the commission??? = dumb as Hell ..... Taking a million punches until the referee is forced to save your life and then blabbering through a battered face "Ya didn knock me down Ray... Ya never knocked me down" = dumb

Just getting hit doesn't make you dumb - because all boxers get hit... But getting suckered into big shots and not making corrections and adjustments is really dumb... Also coming into fights out of shape and 50 pounds overweight is dumb... Toney was a very clever boxer... But just his laziness and not training right has to be up there in dumb fukness.
Not sure how bright anyone is, but even as good as he was, James 'Lights Out' Toney was a disappointment; that's a fact, not an alternative fact. We should be talking of him as an ATG, but were not.
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Post by Cojimar 1946 »

If Ali were around today he would be at an enormous size disadvantage. Ali never dealt with skilled big men who outweighed him by 30-40 pounds who were 3-5 inches taller. I don't see why anyone would be confident of Ali's chances against much bigger men with considerable skills.
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Kalan wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 04:38
golden oldie wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 21:06
Kalan wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 05:24 NO I didn't say those things you lying, brain dead piece of yak dung....

And Joshua won by 2 scores of 118-110 and one of 119-109.... That's not getting exposed you imbecilic jackass.
Listen you inbred scum, only last week you were waxing lyrical about Joshua being the ONLY heavy in the last so many decades who had a 100% KO ratio in his 20 fights, so stop with yout typical fukking back tracking LIES.

The rest of the genital sucking nonsense you have written about the guy is so cringeworthy it is not worth recalling.

You have even had a mod on here ( gigamesh ) saying you are turning BOXING fans off the guy with your nonsensical FALSE praise of the guy. At one time you wrote such unadulterated fukking shite that he was ALREADY better than Ali. Yet some numpty called Joe Parker made this so called killing machine look very ordinary last night.

Man you are without doubt a fukking idiot.

You write the kind of imbecilic garbage about Joshua, that a incredibly fukking stupid teenaged girl would write about Justin Beaver, or whatever the fukk the moron is called.


Freak.
You're a liar.... I said Joshua was the ONLY Heavyweight Champion in history with a 100% KO ratio going into his 6th Heavyweight Championship Fight... And he still is... NOBODY else has accomplished that or is likely too.
But only after fight 4 was his title at all legit, and he never stopped Takam, that was the softest "stoppage" I've ever seen.
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Takam was taking a severe beating.... He was way behind on the cards and had no chance to win.
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Kalan wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 06:08 Takam was taking a severe beating.... He was way behind on the cards and had no chance to win.
People have taken far worse beatings and gone the distance. It still wasn't a legitimate stoppage.
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golden oldie wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 21:06
Kalan wrote: 01 Apr 2018, 05:24 NO I didn't say those things you lying, brain dead piece of yak dung....

And Joshua won by 2 scores of 118-110 and one of 119-109.... That's not getting exposed you imbecilic jackass.
Listen you inbred scum, only last week you were waxing lyrical about Joshua being the ONLY heavy in the last so many decades who had a 100% KO ratio in his 20 fights, so stop with yout typical fukking back tracking LIES.

The rest of the genital sucking nonsense you have written about the guy is so cringeworthy it is not worth recalling.

You have even had a mod on here ( gigamesh ) saying you are turning BOXING fans off the guy with your nonsensical FALSE praise of the guy. At one time you wrote such unadulterated fukking shite that he was ALREADY better than Ali. Yet some numpty called Joe Parker made this so called killing machine look very ordinary last night.

Man you are without doubt a fukking idiot.

You write the kind of imbecilic garbage about Joshua, that a incredibly fukking stupid teenaged girl would write about Justin Beaver, or whatever the fukk the moron is called.


Freak.
Ditto.
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Kalan wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 06:08 Takam was taking a severe beating.... He was way behind on the cards and had no chance to win.
Kalan no disrespect intended. But if Joshua was taking that beating and it was stopped.
You would be screaming how the sport was rigged.
Takam more than likely would of been stopped later on but it was a premature stoppage
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tiny_acres wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:07
Kalan wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 06:08 Takam was taking a severe beating.... He was way behind on the cards and had no chance to win.
Kalan no disrespect intended. But if Joshua was taking that beating and it was stopped.
You would be screaming how the sport was rigged.
Takam more than likely would of been stopped later on but it was a premature stoppage
Tiny - fair and balanced.
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oogiebe wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:08
tiny_acres wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:07
Kalan wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 06:08 Takam was taking a severe beating.... He was way behind on the cards and had no chance to win.
Kalan no disrespect intended. But if Joshua was taking that beating and it was stopped.
You would be screaming how the sport was rigged.
Takam more than likely would of been stopped later on but it was a premature stoppage
Tiny - fair and balanced.
I honestly try to be but sometimes it's hard. Lol
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tiny_acres wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:09
oogiebe wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:08
tiny_acres wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:07

Kalan no disrespect intended. But if Joshua was taking that beating and it was stopped.
You would be screaming how the sport was rigged.
Takam more than likely would of been stopped later on but it was a premature stoppage
Tiny - fair and balanced.
I honestly try to be but sometimes it's hard. Lol
OOoooohhhh...Don't I know it! ;-)
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James Toney is dumb for fighting MMA because he had no idea what he was doing? Isn't it possible that he simply did it for the money? I don't think it's dumb to take a bunch of money when no work is required of you.

The dumb ones were the ones who bought into the "fight" expecting anything other than what happened. I just interpret the events differently.
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Post by Kalan »

tiny_acres wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 10:07
Kalan wrote: 02 Apr 2018, 06:08 Takam was taking a severe beating.... He was way behind on the cards and had no chance to win.
Kalan no disrespect intended. But if Joshua was taking that beating and it was stopped.
You would be screaming how the sport was rigged.
Takam more than likely would of been stopped later on but it was a premature stoppage
Why do you make unfounded statements like that??? I said several times that the fight was stopped prematurely... Also, Joshua was giving Takam a beating and he was on the verge of knocking him out.

I agree, and always have, that it was a premature stoppage... Froch-Groves 1 was premature as well... and if Joshua was losing every round and taking a beating like that I would say the same thing if the fight were stopped...

There was no rigging going on... Those were incompetent referees... But facts are facts... Joshua won every round and was in the process of putting Takam away when the referee jumped in prematurely... Joshua even criticized him... In the Joshua-Parker fight Joshua even grinned frustratedly a couple times because there was no fight happening...

The idiot referee kept jumping in like this was an amateur fight... Instead of yelling "NO PUSHING... NO HOLDING... NO HEAD-WORK... FIGHT OUT OF THERE -- YOU BOTH HAVE HANDS FREE, FIGHT OUT OF THERE" and taking points for pushing, illegal head work and holding if they don't listen after 10 or 12 warnings... You want fists flying, not a fukking dance and endless instructions to the boxers with the referee pointing to his head, grabbing his arm, and making pushing and shoving motions as if the boxers don't have a clue what he's talking about... Can we get to the fight ref??? That's what the fans showed up for.... Nobody is here to watch your performance.
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