Because that's how the WBC ranked it.
Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
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asdfjkl
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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Sorry I just caught up with this. I know it's not a bodybuilding contest but even allowing for that Kownacki just looks a bit puny to me. I grant you he is a high volume puncher, but Szpilka looks done at this point. I'd like to see Kownacki fight someone in the top 10 or even 15 before getting a title shot. A fight against Andy Ruiz or Bryant Jennings would be ideal.x2x wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 14:32candyslim wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 15:41 I don't much rate Kownacki. He looks soft and flabby and his only got one decent win which was over Szpilka who didn't look the same fighter after being annihilated by Wilder. Miller is a tougher test and so are Dom Breazeale or Dillian Whyte.
Why he isn't interested in fighting Whyte in London for massive exposure, twice his career second best payday, and a comfortable win that would have UK fans clamouring for a Wilder v Joshua fight, I cannot imagine, I can't believe he's worried about facing Dillian. If anyone is thinking of replying that Hearn was trying to muscle-in on Wilder and get a piece of him either back it up or don't bother. If that were true Wilder and his people would be hollering about it ever since.
I don't begrudge Wilder an easy one after seeing off a genuine contender in Ortiz though.
One thing I will say for Kownacki is he will come to fight. I don't think he is likely to pose too many questions to Deontay but I'll watch it.
Looks can be deceiving. Boxing is not bodybuilding. Kow impressed me in the Szpilka fight. He set the all time record for punches landed in a single heavyweight round. He throws punches non stop from all directions.
"Why he isn't interested in fighting Whyte in London for massive exposure"
Was he offered that fight? It sounds like a good one. BUT if he's actually already been offered a big money fight against Wilder than of course he wouldn't accept it, tho I think he should fight more contenders before he gets a crack at one of the champs...but that's how the boxing "sports entertainment" show biz racket goes these days.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Do you mean "Has Wilder been made an offer?". Yes Hearn has been pushing for it for some time. Even the numbers are known and he has recently increased the offer although by how much is not known.
What doy you mean - If who has been offered a Wilder fight, who wouldn't accept, and what would he not accept? Who should fight more contenders? Presumably you don't mean Whyte whose run of wins over Chisora, Helenius, Browne and now he's gunning for Povetkin, makes him one of the more serious players in the division. He isn't content to sit on his arse waiting for his number one WBC ranking to bear fruit. If you meant Kownacki then I agree.
As I said before, I don't begrudge Wilder an easy fight next, just so long as it isn't the start of his return to picking off all the low-hanging fruit.
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Ilya Muromets
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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Candy - i meant if Kow has already been offered a fight with Wilder why would he accept a lower budget fight first? But I agree with you, i would like to see him fight someone in the top 10 or 15 first.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
No I meant Wilder not Kownacki has been offered the fight in London against Whyte. Apart from the money he"earned" from his holiday in England, this would be double his career highest payday, he would gain massive exposure and those fans of sport (rather than boxing fans) who follow Joshua, will be agitating for Joshua to avenge Dillian Whyte.
It's a no-brainer but Wilder doesn't want to know, he just wants Joshua ... or Kownacki apparently
Hmmm Whyte in London for $4m and a pretty much guaranteed next up against Joshua, or Kownacki in Brooklyn for maybe $1.25m ... now let me think
It's a no-brainer but Wilder doesn't want to know, he just wants Joshua ... or Kownacki apparently
Hmmm Whyte in London for $4m and a pretty much guaranteed next up against Joshua, or Kownacki in Brooklyn for maybe $1.25m ... now let me think
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Because Wilder wanted to be scripted as coming into the ring after the fight, but Hearn said no because there was no deal in place. I think I'm with Hearn on this one, he shouldn't bend over to the will of Wilder if he's not even prepared to have the conversation about Whyte and/or Joshua.Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 14:14 Does anyone know yet why Wilder has decided not to bother show up at the Joshua fight, or is it still a mystery?
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Well Wilder is obliged to fight his mandatories, which Whyte will be sooner rather than later. It also make financial and business sense to make the fight in the UK. If Wilder doesn't want to make more money or increase exposure, he should do exactly as he is.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
I don't understand the reason why anyone would be particularly shocked about Deontay's comments about his potential future opponents.
Anyone that studied the heavyweight landscape would have anticipated Wilder defending his title against a fellow Haymon stablemate.
In fact, three weeks ago. I submitted a lengthy post explaining the reason why certain fighters wouldn't be considered... and via a process of elimination, I was left with Charles Martin and Adam Kownacki as two of the most likely candidates for Wilder's next opponent.
I thoroughly expect Deontay to be paid a measly $1.4m to face one of those guys, far less than what he'd receive to fight Joshua and Whyte.
Anyone that studied the heavyweight landscape would have anticipated Wilder defending his title against a fellow Haymon stablemate.
In fact, three weeks ago. I submitted a lengthy post explaining the reason why certain fighters wouldn't be considered... and via a process of elimination, I was left with Charles Martin and Adam Kownacki as two of the most likely candidates for Wilder's next opponent.
I thoroughly expect Deontay to be paid a measly $1.4m to face one of those guys, far less than what he'd receive to fight Joshua and Whyte.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Wilder was made two offers from Matchroom to fight Whyte, which easily exceeded the finances of any of his previous fights. Wilder has expressed a mandatory fight against Joshua as part of the deal, which Hearn declined.x2x wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 14:32candyslim wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 15:41 I don't much rate Kownacki. He looks soft and flabby and his only got one decent win which was over Szpilka who didn't look the same fighter after being annihilated by Wilder. Miller is a tougher test and so are Dom Breazeale or Dillian Whyte.
Why he isn't interested in fighting Whyte in London for massive exposure, twice his career second best payday, and a comfortable win that would have UK fans clamouring for a Wilder v Joshua fight, I cannot imagine, I can't believe he's worried about facing Dillian. If anyone is thinking of replying that Hearn was trying to muscle-in on Wilder and get a piece of him either back it up or don't bother. If that were true Wilder and his people would be hollering about it ever since.
I don't begrudge Wilder an easy one after seeing off a genuine contender in Ortiz though.
One thing I will say for Kownacki is he will come to fight. I don't think he is likely to pose too many questions to Deontay but I'll watch it.
Looks can be deceiving. Boxing is not bodybuilding. Kow impressed me in the Szpilka fight. He set the all time record for punches landed in a single heavyweight round. He throws punches non stop from all directions.
"Why he isn't interested in fighting Whyte in London for massive exposure"
Was he offered that fight? It sounds like a good one. BUT if he's actually already been offered a big money fight against Wilder than of course he wouldn't accept it, tho I think he should fight more contenders before he gets a crack at one of the champs...but that's how the boxing "sports entertainment" show biz racket goes these days.
I think the problem here with Wilder is that he for some reason cannot see past the smaller picture. He wants to create hype over the Joshua fight and step in the ring, but the only way he thinks he can do that is through a old fashioned pantomime. Because he couldn't he threw his toys out the pram, and decided not to attend at all, giving up the opportunity to international media exposure. Then he turns down a lucrative fight against Whyte, which once again brings exposure to the British public and potential millions.
It's fair to say that Joshua in 21 fights has earned double Wilder in 40, which is a clear indicator that the management surrounding Joshua is MUCH better. Wilder needs to just concede this one, and let the much more competent Hearn take the lead on proceedings. It'll help his bank balance and his legacy.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
You obviously didn't and came at me with a BoxRec warrior mentality, and you are pretty much admitting it in that post. You're a BoxRec warrior. Okay, good to know.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Someone that doesn't watch fights and just quotes wins/losses from BoxRec records.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Plenty of people do it considering it's a term used.
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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
No, im telling you I did watch the fight. It was a close fight with some very difficult rounds to score, but after the initial aggressive early rounds from Chisora, it was Whyte that controlled the tempo and was more consistent in his work rate.
If you were to say something like, "I scored it differently, but admit it was a close fight" then I'd be more inclined to respect your perspective. But you are stating fallacies which never happened. Therefore it can only be assumed you're some kind of delusional fantasist.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
It was a close fight. I scored it for Chisora.Rob3_142 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 04:40No, im telling you I did watch the fight. It was a close fight with some very difficult rounds to score, but after the initial aggressive early rounds from Chisora, it was Whyte that controlled the tempo and was more consistent in his work rate.
If you were to say something like, "I scored it differently, but admit it was a close fight" then I'd be more inclined to respect your perspective. But you are stating fallacies which never happened. Therefore it can only be assumed you're some kind of delusional fantasist.
But it was no robbery.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Respect.tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 11:23It was a close fight. I scored it for Chisora.Rob3_142 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 04:40No, im telling you I did watch the fight. It was a close fight with some very difficult rounds to score, but after the initial aggressive early rounds from Chisora, it was Whyte that controlled the tempo and was more consistent in his work rate.
If you were to say something like, "I scored it differently, but admit it was a close fight" then I'd be more inclined to respect your perspective. But you are stating fallacies which never happened. Therefore it can only be assumed you're some kind of delusional fantasist.
But it was no robbery.
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Luis Fernando12
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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUCr29sBikQ&t=235sMexi-Box wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 20:00You clearly don't understand what that word means, don't ya.Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 18:10You clearly seem to enjoy and condone mismatches, don't ya?Mexi-Box wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:05
For sure. Too bad he's getting old because the one that fought Charr and went on that impressive KO streak cleans out the division currently. I still think this version is 50-50 with Joshua. He's 60-40 with Wilder, though. Wilder only has a puncher's chance, but Povetkin can also get him out of there at any time.
Watch this video and then explain to me how those match ups for a small heavyweight like Povetkin against such giant super heavyweights like Joshua and Wilder aren't 'MISMATCHES'!