Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:15I wouldn't say dominated. A lot of media scorecards were 116-112 to Joshua.Wales wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 23:26Let’s also remember Parker has been a pro longer and has had more pro fights.
Limited amateur career?
Parker’s father, Dempsey Parker, who was named after Jack Dempsey started his son boxing at 3 years old. Boxing was in the Parker families blood,
Parker had 68 senior amateur bouts and more as a junior.
On the other hand AJ first walked into a boxing gym at 18, and only had 43 amateur contests .
End of the day AJ pretty much dominated the widely regarded #3 in the HW division .
Joshua V. Parker...what did we learn?
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I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..jezzamundo wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:33Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:15 I wouldn't say dominated. A lot of media scorecards were 116-112 to Joshua.
Re: Joshua V. Parker...what did we learn?
Parker won three rounds clearly, perhaps four. So, 117-111 or 116-112.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 09:36I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..jezzamundo wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:33Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:15 I wouldn't say dominated. A lot of media scorecards were 116-112 to Joshua.
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Yet non of the 3 judges had him winning more than 2.ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 11:56Parker won three rounds clearly, perhaps four. So, 117-111 or 116-112.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 09:36I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..jezzamundo wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 08:33
Dominated on the very poor scorecards. For me it was a close but clear win to Joshua - I could see anything between 115-113 and 117-111 to Joshua as a reasonable scorecard.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:10Yet non of the 3 judges had him winning more than 2.ValMar wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 11:56Parker won three rounds clearly, perhaps four. So, 117-111 or 116-112.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 09:36
I agree it was a clear win for Joshua.. Nothing wrong with the decision. But the wide scorecards take away from Parker..
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I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.
He realizes this means sacrificing some of the gung-ho, up and at'em, high-risk approach which has made him so popular but he's ok with that. He wants to master the defensive techniques which turned around Klitschko's fortunes and he is very likely to be successful, because this boxing lark comes more naturally to him than it ever did, Wlad.
He realizes this means sacrificing some of the gung-ho, up and at'em, high-risk approach which has made him so popular but he's ok with that. He wants to master the defensive techniques which turned around Klitschko's fortunes and he is very likely to be successful, because this boxing lark comes more naturally to him than it ever did, Wlad.
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Yes.candyslim wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:51 I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.
He realizes this means sacrificing some of the gung-ho, up and at'em, high-risk approach which has made him so popular but he's ok with that. He wants to master the defensive techniques which turned around Klitschko's fortunes and he is very likely to be successful, because this boxing lark comes more naturally to him than it ever did, Wlad.
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Yes ! Yes !oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:59Yes.candyslim wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 12:51 I think we learned that Joshua is morphing into a careful, controlled, minimal risk exponent who intends to be around for a long time like his idol, Uncle Wlad.
He realizes this means sacrificing some of the gung-ho, up and at'em, high-risk approach which has made him so popular but he's ok with that. He wants to master the defensive techniques which turned around Klitschko's fortunes and he is very likely to be successful, because this boxing lark comes more naturally to him than it ever did, Wlad.
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I would love to see AJ vs the southpaw Ortiz since no doubt he will take one more before Wilder.
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Ortiz (Jennings/Tompson version) would have been a competitive opponent. I doubt it for the after-Wilder version.
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Precisely. We don't know what the affects of the loss will be.
No matter what an experienced southpaw with world class skills is a handful for anyone
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I wouldn't bet that fight either.tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 14:58Precisely. We don't know what the affects of the loss will be.
No matter what an experienced southpaw with world class skills is a handful for anyone
Re: Joshua V. Parker...what did we learn?
boxing history showed that every man finds
his antidote. styles make those fights and it
occurss that a boxer that cannot beat you
will find a way to make you look bad.
happened so many times in boxing history
i would not read much into it. what is more
interesting that the current pool of contenders
is not so bad after all.
top five guys in heavies right now should make
for good fights. just stating that is quite a change
from last fifteen years ...
his antidote. styles make those fights and it
occurss that a boxer that cannot beat you
will find a way to make you look bad.
happened so many times in boxing history
i would not read much into it. what is more
interesting that the current pool of contenders
is not so bad after all.
top five guys in heavies right now should make
for good fights. just stating that is quite a change
from last fifteen years ...
Re: Joshua V. Parker...what did we learn?
Just stating that is a change from the last fifteen days! Nice post. Honest.man wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:42 boxing history showed that every man finds
his antidote. styles make those fights and it
occurss that a boxer that cannot beat you
will find a way to make you look bad.
happened so many times in boxing history
i would not read much into it. what is more
interesting that the current pool of contenders
is not so bad after all.
top five guys in heavies right now should make
for good fights. just stating that is quite a change
from last fifteen years ...
Re: Joshua V. Parker...what did we learn?
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:43Just stating that is a change from the last fifteen days! Nice post. Honest.man wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 15:42 boxing history showed that every man finds
his antidote. styles make those fights and it
occurss that a boxer that cannot beat you
will find a way to make you look bad.
happened so many times in boxing history
i would not read much into it. what is more
interesting that the current pool of contenders
is not so bad after all.
top five guys in heavies right now should make
for good fights. just stating that is quite a change
from last fifteen years ...
Re: Joshua V. Parker...what did we learn?
After studying compubox stats it’s definitely clear that the judges were biased. The ref changed the course of the fight as well .
But it was a DRAW.
Parker threw more punches , he landed more power punches .
Joshua won if you just count jabs landed.
But this just showed me that Fury will beat Joshua easily just flicking out light jabs for 12.rounds
But it was a DRAW.
Parker threw more punches , he landed more power punches .
Joshua won if you just count jabs landed.
But this just showed me that Fury will beat Joshua easily just flicking out light jabs for 12.rounds
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Possibly. I think we saw the start of that process in the Takam fight. If I am right, and although I take your point, I suspect I am, then a fight against Ortiz would probably see the new low-risk Joshua very much in evidence.
It might not be much of a spectacle, at least until AJ became sure he'd drawn Ortiz' sting and was safe to get a little more adventurous.
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Compubox has the fight a draw.
This means Parker is the #3 ranked heavyweight in the world behind Wilder and Joshua
This means Parker is the #3 ranked heavyweight in the world behind Wilder and Joshua
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You can stuff your compubox where the sun don't shine. I've got him number three in the world compubox or no bloody compubox.
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Not a claim a fact . Anyone can view the stats
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It's staggering to think anyone can call that performance dominating, there were rounds AJ looked terrible, stupid, simply dumb. Out thought out fought by a back peddeling smaller man that could have a couple losses his last 2 fights.. AJ still doesn't move his head luckily he had every advantage possible to ensure his chances. He absolutely would have been knocked out had he been facing Wilder, no doubt at all. Of course, they endlessly talk shit whilst running towards Fat Baby Miller. Kind of a bitch move if they do that. All the fake talk about how "easy" Wilder would be lol yet they look every other direction possible. That's not confidence, it's concern. And they should be concerned, their dreams are getting crushed the day Joshua faces him. It's over.