Povetkin's power

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Povetkin's power

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How would you rank Povetkin's power on the scale from 1 to 10? With whom of the fighters of the past would you compare his punching power?
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Re: Povetkin's power

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after wlad till the duhaupas ktfo his power was top notch :OhYes:

charr ktfo

takam ktfo

perez ktfo

duhaupas ktfo

some guy there that even aj and wilder couldnt stop nearly as hard


but then he seemed to fall off a bit, i wonder why lol, you see it happening too with fellow drug addict ray beltran
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Re: Povetkin's power

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Those power measurings in heavyweights are hard to be made. Well, if Povetkin lands clean, that is lights out. So, I give him no less, than 9,5 out of 10. Approximately the same impression is given to me by guys, like Bowe, Morrison, Tua, Liston, Ruddock, Vitali. I'd say, Povetkin's punch looks scarier, than punches of Joshua, Holyfield, Holmes, Ali, Norton. And the guys, whose power is bigger, will include Foreman, Tyson, Wlad, Lewis, Frazier, Marciano, Shavers, Wilder.
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vitali had average power, more like he hit guys a zillion times
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Average to below average. It's possible that Duhaupas, Takam and Mike Perez all took dives against him. The same can be said of Manuel Charr.

I think Povetkin's offensive skills are more impressive than his punching power. And I think they may arguably be better than Joshua's or Wilder's offensive skills. He seems to throw better combinations at mid range and on the inside, better than any other heavyweight today. And he seems to have better punching accuracy and timing to land his best punches than most, if not all the other heavyweights of today.

So against opponents that come to fight and to win against Povetkin, Povetkin will more likely than not, KO them. But if his opponents come to survive, then he will be less likely to KO his opponents because the openings will not be available.

That's the most probable reason why David Price, Carlos Takam and Manuel Charr were knocked out. Whilst Christian Hammer and Andriy Rudenko weren't.

There really isn't any mystical reason for Povetkin's inconsistent knockout performances.
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:lol:
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No doubt! Offensive skills > Punching power. Punching power is one of, if not the most overrated attributes in the sport of boxing. Timing and accuracy > raw punching power in terms of getting knockouts.

The Povetkin that fought Takam and Manuel Charr is pretty much the same Povetkin that fought Christian Hammer and Andriy Rudenko in terms of punching power. His power level didn't somehow magically enhance astronomically between those fights.

Povetkin's inability to KO Hammer and Rudenko isn't down to some supernatural or mystical cause or some minute chemicals stored inside his body. The simple reason is because Rudenko and Hammer came to survive and therefore, Povetkin failed to accurately time his knockout punches.

Only casual or ignorant boxing fans think raw punching power is the main or even the only basis to knockouts.

"OH, HE COULDN'T KO HIS LAST OPPONENT LIKE HE KO'ED HIS 4TH LAST OPPONENT. THEREFORE, HE ISN'T ON PEDS ANYMORE DOE".
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so when he lands hes ktfoing ppl repeatedly, and when he doesnt ko ppl its a skill and not a power thing

so of course by that logic he must have average to below average power, right :lol:

LOLOLOL STEP UP YOUR POVETKIN GAME BRO :yay:
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9/10, Peter, Rahman
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A boxer with relatively average punching power could have a better knockout record than another boxer who has greater punching power. By having better offensive skills (timing, accuracy and knockout set ups).

Mariusz Wach arguably hits much harder than Povetkin. Same with David Price. Considering how much bigger they are in size in comparison. But Povetkin has better / equal knockout records to them, because he makes up for his lack of punching power with extraordinary offensive skills. And those offensive skills are most effective against opponents who come to win/fight, rather than survive.

This really isn't that difficult to understand!
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Re: Povetkin's power

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7
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8 at his best. some dang brutal stoppages and over decently durable guys
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I would say 8.

He has good power put hes knockouts have been more about accuracy than pure power. The shots that ended the fights against Takam, Perez and Duhaupas were all pretty much perfectly on the chin with full powered shot.

Guys like Wilder can knock out people with glancing blows. He made Ortiz do nice little chicken dance with shot straight to the forehead. Ortiz could probably take those all day from average punchers without flinching. Scott went down from the air wave from missed punch :OhYes:
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I would say 8, but he usually only uses it if he isn't 100% sure he will outpoint his opponent anyway, if he's sure about that, he simply doesn't punch that hard.
Also, he's getting old by now.
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Luis Fernando12 wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 10:16 Average to below average. It's possible that Duhaupas, Takam and Mike Perez all took dives against him. The same can be said of Manuel Charr.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read... ALL of those guys were throwing as hard as they could... Takam put up a great fight for 10 rounds and landed many big punches... Charr was badly battered... Duhaupas was FLATTENED with a crushing blow... Perez got up from a smashing knock down... If you intend to quit, you don't get up when you're hurt... The referee should have asked Perez to step to him because he was unsteady as Hell. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue.
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Povetkin will KO Joshua easy
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At his peak his power was a 7

These days it's looking more like a 6 or 5. He's losing steam.
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Kalan wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 23:33
Luis Fernando12 wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 10:16 Average to below average. It's possible that Duhaupas, Takam and Mike Perez all took dives against him. The same can be said of Manuel Charr.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read... ALL of those guys were throwing as hard as they could... Takam put up a great fight for 10 rounds and landed many big punches... Charr was badly battered... Duhaupas was FLATTENED with a crushing blow... Perez got up from a smashing knock down... If you intend to quit, you don't get up when you're hurt... The referee should have asked Perez to step to him because he was unsteady as Hell. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue.
I have to agree with Kalan.
At Povetkin's peak his power he was a solid 8 if not a 9.
He's still a 7 or 7.5
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:TU:
tiny_acres wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 15:41
Kalan wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 23:33
Luis Fernando12 wrote: 08 Apr 2018, 10:16 Average to below average. It's possible that Duhaupas, Takam and Mike Perez all took dives against him. The same can be said of Manuel Charr.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read... ALL of those guys were throwing as hard as they could... Takam put up a great fight for 10 rounds and landed many big punches... Charr was badly battered... Duhaupas was FLATTENED with a crushing blow... Perez got up from a smashing knock down... If you intend to quit, you don't get up when you're hurt... The referee should have asked Perez to step to him because he was unsteady as Hell. He shouldn't have been allowed to continue.
I have to agree with Kalan.
At Povetkin's peak his power he was a solid 8 if not a 9.
He's still a 7 or 7.5
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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 15:35 At his peak his power was a 7

These days it's looking more like a 6 or 5. He's losing steam.
How do you rank (from 1 to 10) the punching power of Lewis, Wlad, Sanders, Brewster, McCall, Rahman, Mercer, Vitali and Holyfield?
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Boxing Writer wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:37
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 15:35 At his peak his power was a 7

These days it's looking more like a 6 or 5. He's losing steam.
How do you rank (from 1 to 10) the punching power of Lewis, Wlad, Sanders, Brewster, McCall, Rahman, Mercer, Vitali and Holyfield?
Lewis: 8.5 or 9
Wlad: 8.5 or 9
Sanders (I assume you mean Corrie Sanders?): 8
Brewster: 7
McCall: 5
Rahman: 6.5
Mercer: 7
Vitali: 8
Holyfield: 7
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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:39
Boxing Writer wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:37
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 15:35 At his peak his power was a 7

These days it's looking more like a 6 or 5. He's losing steam.
How do you rank (from 1 to 10) the punching power of Lewis, Wlad, Sanders, Brewster, McCall, Rahman, Mercer, Vitali and Holyfield?
Lewis: 8.5
Wlad: 8.5
Sanders (I assume you mean Corrie Sanders?): 8
Brewster: 7
McCall: 5
Rahman: 6.5
Mercer: 7
Vitali: 8
Holyfield: 7
:TU:
Foreman and Shavers?
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Boxing Writer wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:41
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:39
Boxing Writer wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:37
How do you rank (from 1 to 10) the punching power of Lewis, Wlad, Sanders, Brewster, McCall, Rahman, Mercer, Vitali and Holyfield?
Lewis: 8.5
Wlad: 8.5
Sanders (I assume you mean Corrie Sanders?): 8
Brewster: 7
McCall: 5
Rahman: 6.5
Mercer: 7
Vitali: 8
Holyfield: 7
:TU:
Foreman and Shavers?
They're 10's
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I can understand it that AJ preferes to avoid Povetkin to fight a featherfisted bum instead, even for less money and with a bunch of troll youtube fanboys working for his opponent.
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Re: Povetkin's power

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gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:43
Boxing Writer wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:41
gilgamesh wrote: 10 Apr 2018, 16:39

Lewis: 8.5
Wlad: 8.5
Sanders (I assume you mean Corrie Sanders?): 8
Brewster: 7
McCall: 5
Rahman: 6.5
Mercer: 7
Vitali: 8
Holyfield: 7
:TU:
Foreman and Shavers?
They're 10's
You know damned well Shavers wasn't a 10...

Shavers tried to trade with Lyle, Quarry, and Holmes---but he got knocked out.... He tried to trade with 2nd raters Stander, Cobb, and Mercado---but he got knocked out... He tried to KO 3rd rater Bob Stallings, who lost most of his fights and got knocked out mucho times.. It didn't work... He loaded up his best swings for all those guys and got beat every time.

You know damned well McCall wasn't a 5... He knocked out 3 Heavyweight Champions... He was a big Heavyweight.

He was the 1st man who ever knocked Lennox Lewis out ... The ONLY MAN EVER to knock 6'7" X 240 Henry Akinwande out and I think you'll agree it was a lot better than the Lewis shothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKKALuwnbHM

McCall was 38 when he nailed Akinwande on the chin... McCall had a world of problems including severe crack cocaine addiction and many emotional illnesses that he suffered from for many years... But on a given night when he had his head on straight he could knock anybody out... It wasn't often, but it was gold.
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/on-this ... nox-lewis/
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