ESPN: Eddie Hearn to 'put an offer together' for Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder fight

[SFW]

Unification can easily put off any mandatory, so Povetkins position doesn't really matter. Not to mention their doping issues don't exactly give them priority over anyone much less a champion. Maybe slick Eddie will try to whore off his mistress Dilliana Whyte onto Povetkin. He seems to think Whyte has that dynamite lovin' and everyone should get a piece. Those two fugglies can get at it. Alas, Hearn will do exactly what he's been doing. Go any other direction but Wilder. This supposed "easy" fight lol. How does anyone buy their bullshit, I don't get it.

[jamamb]

is everything hearns fault

[SFW]

is everything hearns fault

Yes. I believe he also had a part in the RMS Titanic situation many years prior. Unconfirmed, unfortunately.

[greg]

..Rjabinski is tough, smart and financially sound..let's see how Hearn can deal with it..wouldn't be surprised he'll show some flexibility negotiating his deal with Wilder to speed it up...Good for boxing anyway..

[Rob3_142]

Hmmm I dunno about your Russian, but mine ain't that great!

Attention!
Today Povetkin is appointed mandatory challenger to Joshua for WBA !!!
The period of 150 days from today to the organization of the battle, the battle must occur. Joshua has no right to fight anyone with Sasha !!! 30 days to negotiate.!

If this went to purse bids, is there a good chance Hearn could lose? I remember when Wlad had to go to Russia to fight Povetkin after their enormous Russian bid.

Wherever it takes place though, Joshua is going to crush Povetkin.

I think the fact Povetkin already came to the UK to fight Price suggests to me that they've already agreed the fight will take place in the UK. Even if he hadn't come to UK for the Price fight, Ryabinski would have to really put his hands deep in his pocket to counter the earning power of Joshua.

[tiny_acres]

Hmmm I dunno about your Russian, but mine ain't that great!

Attention!
Today Povetkin is appointed mandatory challenger to Joshua for WBA !!!
The period of 150 days from today to the organization of the battle, the battle must occur. Joshua has no right to fight anyone with Sasha !!! 30 days to negotiate.!

If this went to purse bids, is there a good chance Hearn could lose? I remember when Wlad had to go to Russia to fight Povetkin after their enormous Russian bid.

Wherever it takes place though, Joshua is going to crush Povetkin.

I think the fact Povetkin already came to the UK to fight Price suggests to me that they've already agreed the fight will take place in the UK. Even if he hadn't come to UK for the Price fight, Ryabinski would have to really put his hands deep in his pocket to counter the earning power of Joshua.

Ryabinski is not afraid to throw out huge money.

[oogiebe]

Attention!
Today Povetkin is appointed mandatory challenger to Joshua for WBA !!!
The period of 150 days from today to the organization of the battle, the battle must occur. Joshua has no right to fight anyone with Sasha !!! 30 days to negotiate.!

If this went to purse bids, is there a good chance Hearn could lose? I remember when Wlad had to go to Russia to fight Povetkin after their enormous Russian bid.

Wherever it takes place though, Joshua is going to crush Povetkin.

I think the fact Povetkin already came to the UK to fight Price suggests to me that they've already agreed the fight will take place in the UK. Even if he hadn't come to UK for the Price fight, Ryabinski would have to really put his hands deep in his pocket to counter the earning power of Joshua.

Ryabinski is not afraid to throw out huge money.

Especially for an event such as this. It's be interesting to see.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Why is Hearn talking about Miller if AJ has to fight Povetkin next? Are they going to dump the WBA?

[dickbelden]

http://boxingnews.com.ua/en/news/21446- ... -povetkina

WILL THIS FIGHT B IN RUSSIA OR UK ?

[tiny_acres]

A petition to the WBA could easily postpone this fight.
It's nothing new

[Rob3_142]

Attention!
Today Povetkin is appointed mandatory challenger to Joshua for WBA !!!
The period of 150 days from today to the organization of the battle, the battle must occur. Joshua has no right to fight anyone with Sasha !!! 30 days to negotiate.!

If this went to purse bids, is there a good chance Hearn could lose? I remember when Wlad had to go to Russia to fight Povetkin after their enormous Russian bid.

Wherever it takes place though, Joshua is going to crush Povetkin.

I think the fact Povetkin already came to the UK to fight Price suggests to me that they've already agreed the fight will take place in the UK. Even if he hadn't come to UK for the Price fight, Ryabinski would have to really put his hands deep in his pocket to counter the earning power of Joshua.

Ryabinski is not afraid to throw out huge money.

Be that as it may, has he ever dished out the amount it would take to move Joshua? I get the feeling Klitschko and Wilder were peanuts in comparison.

[tiny_acres]

I think the fact Povetkin already came to the UK to fight Price suggests to me that they've already agreed the fight will take place in the UK. Even if he hadn't come to UK for the Price fight, Ryabinski would have to really put his hands deep in his pocket to counter the earning power of Joshua.

Ryabinski is not afraid to throw out huge money.

Be that as it may, has he ever dished out the amount it would take to move Joshua? I get the feeling Klitschko and Wilder were peanuts in comparison.

Ryabinski offered just over 23 million for Klitschko vs Povetkin.
It wouldn't surprise me if he would bid more.
But it would have to go to purse bid and no one honestly can think it would

[Enlightened-One]

It's kind of comical to read some of the comments on this thread that are claiming that if Wilder doesn't precisely receive his stipulated terms then Anthony Joshua must somehow be "ducking".

According to these morons, the onus is on AJ to make the bout happen, regardless of Wilder's terms, even if the American never personally attempted to make this bout.

[Badhusker]

"We're going to put an offer together this week and look to continue the conversation with Wilder's team," Hearn said.

WE'RE GOING TO........

I have heard that before.

[Wales]

Everyone slates Hearn and Joshua for not getting shit done but I don’t see DiBella and Wilder coming forward with a huge offer.

Not seen DiBella put together a $40m purse

[asdfjkl]

Wilder got a troll army by buying a few youtubers who lie every day for him, some idiots actually believe their lies. It's a very effective way of creating lies. I can't comment on them, my posts won't be visable for others, because I tell the truth, but if you believe the lie, or agree with the maker of the vid, your posts will be visable. So when you read the comments you start thinking 90% of people agree with them. If 90% agrees it must be right right? Also, if you dislike the vid, you won't see his next vid any more, if you do like, there's a good chance all your friends will also see the vid over time. You can see that all those 78sportstv and tickettv are probablt the clearest ones. Just keep on repeating the lies, spread on the fake news wherever you got the chance. It's always the same stories they spread. They claim Povetkin is a doper, everybody ducks Wilder and Wilder does whatever he can to fight top guys. While in reality Wilder always avoided all the risky fights all his carreer with piles of excuses. "It's too cold in Russia!", "Briggs and Mansour aren't serious!", "I wanted to fight Hughie Fury, but I can't give him 8 weeks notice!" *gives Duhaupas the fight instead, 7,5 weeks later.
"No, we don't rush Wilder after 33 fights", when Klitschko was barely 40 years old! Did AJ beat Klitschko? Oh, but he was old, so it doesn't really count. "Whyte? Nah, he's not good enough! Let's fight Stiverne!" Everything Wilder did was getting old guys out of retirement for a final payday, or fight absolute no hopers. You can easely see that Stiverne, Arreola, Washington, Szpilka have absolutely no chance at top level. Hughie Fury would smash them all over the ring like dolls. They stopped Joe Joyce his sparring session with Stiverne because the level difference was too high, next they give Stiverne the WBC mandatory spot without winning against any ranked WBC boxer at all for... Well at least 3 years. I don't think he ever fought someone that isn't retired right now has he? And all those so called Wilder fans continue to act like Wilder is a somebody.
Wilder and his team ruined the entire sport for years and years in a row, they didn't even want to broadcast it any more. I can't find any video footage of Stiverne his last win, but he did became the mandatory with that fight behind closed doors right?


Wilder and his team ruined boxing as a sport completely and AJ build it all the way back up again. And now, after all those years there is a good payday out there and now we all have to wait to give Wilder the money AJ earned?

You know, Wilder is the kind of guy that gives shit about his whole family for years and years in a row, while his small half sister takes care of his old parents all her life. And then at the very end when his father dies he screams. Hey, that's my heritage! They are my parents! Look at my last name! You see what a criminal see is officer?! She tries to kick me out of the family! Look, the court gave me right! Everybody is a thief, except for me!

That's the kind of guy Wilder is, sad, but true.

[Wales]

Imagine if Joshua was still fighting Audley Harrison level guys in his 28th fight! Harrison was a rung below British title standard

[jamamb]

It's kind of comical to read some of the comments on this thread that are claiming that if Wilder doesn't precisely receive his stipulated terms then Anthony Joshua must somehow be "ducking".

According to these fûckîng morons, the onus is on AJ to make the bout happen, regardless of Wilder's terms, even if the American never personally attempted to make this bout.

In regards to this situation, cûnts are cûnts, even if the wánkèrs that posted their comments didn't realise that they were behaving like cûnts!

ya, there are some ppl here who no matter what happens are gonna blame aj for ducking and say hes protected if the fight doesnt happen. they put all the blame on his side and immediately say his side are lying about anything they say, yet somehow everything on wilders end is legit and honest and they absolutely want it

[jamamb]

Imagine if Joshua was still fighting Audley Harrison level guys in his 28th fight! Harrison was a rung below British title standard

look at the timelines

wilder just a few months ago fought his 2nd top 10 opponent in his 40 fight/10 year career

wilder after 7 years pro and 32 fights took then his biggest step up vs stiverne. later that year his first defense was vs molina (who aj ko'd in 3 after 3 years pro).

wilder after 6 years pro and 30 fights still fought jason gavern

wilder after 5 years pro and almost 30 fights fought audley harrison

wilder after 4 years pro (same current time ajs been pro) and 25 fights fought kelvin price, then his best opponent by far

vs

aj has only been pro for a little over 4 years and 21 fights yet already fought wlad, parker, whyte, takam, and breazeale. thats like 5 guys who were or are now top 10 with some even being top 5 arguably.he also easily kod molina after like 3 years pro, whereas molina was wilders first defense after 7 years and 33 fights.

and then of course aj just unified again vs parker. at the same stage wilder made his biggest step up to face kelvin price.. before that he beat wlad and takam, so his opposition has remained consistently high.


i actually dont think wilders opposition is nearly as bad as some made it out to be, but to act like ajs been the protected one and still is is truly a joke.

[jamamb]

now imagine if those cases were reversed, can you imagine how off the wall some ppl here would be going about how f@cking hugely ajs been protected? i mean there doing it already when the guys #1 already despite being pro shorter then anyone else in the top 20!

after 4.5 years hes fought wlad, parker, whyte, takam, breazeale, molina, etc when at the same stage wilder was fighting kelvin price, ortizs best opponents were shot to shit monte barrett and lateef kayode, miller was fighting rodricka ray, fury was fighting vinny madalone etc

there hasnt been a hw in years with a stronger record after the same time and aj continues to fight at the most consistently high level

[Enlightened-One]

People keep arguing that AJ is somehow obliged to meet Deontay Wilder’s purse demands and are accusing him of “ducking” the American, despite ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having never attempted to make the bout.

If you take one look at The RING’s ratings at the time AJ & Wilder competed in their last eight bouts, it actually seems kind of bizarre for anyone to support Deontay’s position in relation to this matter…

Deontay Wilder:

• Bermane Stiverne (3rd)
• Eric Molina (unranked)
• Johann Duhaupas (unranked & tasted defeat two fights prior)
• Artur Szpilka (unranked)
• Chris Arreola (unranked & only won two of his previous six outings)
• Gerald Washington (unranked)
• Bermane Stiverne (7th & had struggled to defeat a journeyman in his only outing since his first defeat to Wilder)
• Luis Ortiz (5th)

Anthony Joshua:

• Gary Cornish (unranked & unbeaten)
• Dillian Whyte (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 6th though)
• Charles Martin (10th, the IBF champ & also unbeaten)
• Dominic Breazeale (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 8th though)
• Eric Molina (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory)
• Wladimir Klitschko (2nd, a future Hall-of-Famer & only tasted defeat once in the 13 years prior)
• Carlos Takam (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory & a late substitute opponent)
• Joseph Parker (3rd, the WBO champ & also unbeaten)

How many times has Deontay Wilder attempted to unify the heavyweight division? Zero

How many mandatory defences of his WBC title has ‘The Bronze Bomber’ performed during his thirty nine months title reign? Only once, against an opponent on a poor run of form and had already defeated

Other than Bermane Stiverne & Luis Ortiz, how many times has the American competed against top-ten world class opposition? Zero

How many times has Deontay Wilder or his team attempted to initiate contract negotiations to Anthony Joshua’s team and proposed the terms for a potential bout? Zero

Is it true that AJ was paid almost twice as much for the Joseph Parker (≈$20m) bout alone than the combined total that Wilder commanded for all eight of his WBC world title fights (≈$11.1m)? Yes

Is it true that AJ holds the IBF, WBA, WBO & IBO titles, with Wilder only possessing the WBC belt? Yes

Is it true that ESPN, The RING & BoxRec rate Anthony Joshua above Deontay Wilder in their heavyweight rankings? Yes

How many times has Deontay Wilder competed in a WBC world title fight against an opponent that wasn’t affiliated in some manner to Al Haymon? Zero - or possibly one (Johann Duhaupas)

The answers to the questions I’ve posed, coupled with the analysis that I have detailed, pretty much provides a compelling argument that no Deontay Wilder advocate can deny or undermine.

[bigman1968]

Attention!
Today Povetkin is appointed mandatory challenger to Joshua for WBA !!!
The period of 150 days from today to the organization of the battle, the battle must occur. Joshua has no right to fight anyone with Sasha !!! 30 days to negotiate.!

If this went to purse bids, is there a good chance Hearn could lose? I remember when Wlad had to go to Russia to fight Povetkin after their enormous Russian bid.

Wherever it takes place though, Joshua is going to crush Povetkin.

I think the fact Povetkin already came to the UK to fight Price suggests to me that they've already agreed the fight will take place in the UK. Even if he hadn't come to UK for the Price fight, Ryabinski would have to really put his hands deep in his pocket to counter the earning power of Joshua.

Ryabinski is not afraid to throw out huge money.

The money for Klitchko came not from Riabinsky, but from RosNeft.
At those times most of Russians believed that Povetkin is better than Klitchko and USD=30rubles.
Today USD=60rubles and most of Russians I know (and I work at Russia for 20 years) think that Povetkin was a disgrace vs Klitchko.
Don't see no RosNeft or GazProm paying 8 figures for another potential embarassement....

[KiwiRider]

People keep arguing that AJ is somehow obliged to meet Deontay Wilder’s purse demands and are accusing him of “ducking” the American, despite ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having never attempted to make the bout.

If you take one look at The RING’s ratings at the time AJ & Wilder competed in their last eight bouts, it actually seems kind of bizarre for anyone to support Deontay’s position in relation to this matter…

Deontay Wilder:

• Bermane Stiverne (3rd)
• Eric Molina (unranked)
• Johann Duhaupas (unranked & tasted defeat two fights prior)
• Artur Szpilka (unranked)
• Chris Arreola (unranked & only won two of his previous six outings)
• Gerald Washington (unranked)
• Bermane Stiverne (7th & had struggled to defeat a journeyman in his only outing since his first defeat to Wilder)
• Luis Ortiz (5th)

Anthony Joshua:

• Gary Cornish (unranked & unbeaten)
• Dillian Whyte (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 6th though)
• Charles Martin (10th, the IBF champ & also unbeaten)
• Dominic Breazeale (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 8th though)
• Eric Molina (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory)
• Wladimir Klitschko (2nd, a future Hall-of-Famer & only tasted defeat once in the 13 years prior)
• Carlos Takam (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory & a late substitute opponent)
• Joseph Parker (3rd, the WBO champ & also unbeaten)

How many times has Deontay Wilder attempted to unify the heavyweight division? Zero

How many mandatory defences of his WBC title has ‘The Bronze Bomber’ performed during his thirty nine months title reign? Only once, against an opponent on a poor run of form and had already defeated

Other than Bermane Stiverne & Luis Ortiz, how many times has the American competed against top-ten world class opposition? Zero

How many times has Deontay Wilder or his team attempted to initiate contract negotiations to Anthony Joshua’s team and proposed the terms for a potential bout? Zero

Is it true that AJ was paid almost twice as much for the Joseph Parker (≈$20m) bout alone than the combined total that Wilder commanded for all eight of his WBC world title fights (≈$11.1m)? Yes

Is it true that AJ holds the IBF, WBA, WBO & IBO titles, with Wilder only possessing the WBC belt? Yes

Is it true that ESPN, The RING & BoxRec rate Anthony Joshua above Deontay Wilder in their heavyweight rankings? Yes

How many times has Deontay Wilder competed in a WBC world title fight against an opponent that wasn’t affiliated in some manner to Al Haymon? Zero - or possibly one (Johann Duhaupas)

The answers to the questions I’ve posed, coupled with the analysis that I have detailed, pretty much provides a compelling argument that no Deontay Wilder advocate can deny or undermine.

Nice work

May I add;
How many times has Wilder said he will fight the best and unify the division in the 36 months of being a belt holder? countless times

A prize bull ejaculates up to 1.89 billion sperm per ejaculate. So if you put a bull in with your heifers for a day, are they still heifers?
Yes they are, but they are pretty full of bull by the end of it.

[tiny_acres]

People keep arguing that AJ is somehow obliged to meet Deontay Wilder’s purse demands and are accusing him of “ducking” the American, despite ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having never attempted to make the bout.

If you take one look at The RING’s ratings at the time AJ & Wilder competed in their last eight bouts, it actually seems kind of bizarre for anyone to support Deontay’s position in relation to this matter…

Deontay Wilder:

• Bermane Stiverne (3rd)
• Eric Molina (unranked)
• Johann Duhaupas (unranked & tasted defeat two fights prior)
• Artur Szpilka (unranked)
• Chris Arreola (unranked & only won two of his previous six outings)
• Gerald Washington (unranked)
• Bermane Stiverne (7th & had struggled to defeat a journeyman in his only outing since his first defeat to Wilder)
• Luis Ortiz (5th)

Anthony Joshua:

• Gary Cornish (unranked & unbeaten)
• Dillian Whyte (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 6th though)
• Charles Martin (10th, the IBF champ & also unbeaten)
• Dominic Breazeale (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 8th though)
• Eric Molina (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory)
• Wladimir Klitschko (2nd, a future Hall-of-Famer & only tasted defeat once in the 13 years prior)
• Carlos Takam (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory & a late substitute opponent)
• Joseph Parker (3rd, the WBO champ & also unbeaten)

How many times has Deontay Wilder attempted to unify the heavyweight division? Zero

How many mandatory defences of his WBC title has ‘The Bronze Bomber’ performed during his thirty nine months title reign? Only once, against an opponent on a poor run of form and had already defeated

Other than Bermane Stiverne & Luis Ortiz, how many times has the American competed against top-ten world class opposition? Zero

How many times has Deontay Wilder or his team attempted to initiate contract negotiations to Anthony Joshua’s team and proposed the terms for a potential bout? Zero

Is it true that AJ was paid almost twice as much for the Joseph Parker (≈$20m) bout alone than the combined total that Wilder commanded for all eight of his WBC world title fights (≈$11.1m)? Yes

Is it true that AJ holds the IBF, WBA, WBO & IBO titles, with Wilder only possessing the WBC belt? Yes

Is it true that ESPN, The RING & BoxRec rate Anthony Joshua above Deontay Wilder in their heavyweight rankings? Yes

How many times has Deontay Wilder competed in a WBC world title fight against an opponent that wasn’t affiliated in some manner to Al Haymon? Zero - or possibly one (Johann Duhaupas)

The answers to the questions I’ve posed, coupled with the analysis that I have detailed, pretty much provides a compelling argument that no Deontay Wilder advocate can deny or undermine.

One huge mistake you gave Eric Molina listed as a mandatory defense for Joshua.
Molina was ranked 15th December 2016 when the fought. That's 15th by the ibf.

[tiny_acres]

People keep arguing that AJ is somehow obliged to meet Deontay Wilder’s purse demands and are accusing him of “ducking” the American, despite ‘The Bronze Bomber’ having never attempted to make the bout.

If you take one look at The RING’s ratings at the time AJ & Wilder competed in their last eight bouts, it actually seems kind of bizarre for anyone to support Deontay’s position in relation to this matter…

Deontay Wilder:

• Bermane Stiverne (3rd)
• Eric Molina (unranked)
• Johann Duhaupas (unranked & tasted defeat two fights prior)
• Artur Szpilka (unranked)
• Chris Arreola (unranked & only won two of his previous six outings)
• Gerald Washington (unranked)
• Bermane Stiverne (7th & had struggled to defeat a journeyman in his only outing since his first defeat to Wilder)
• Luis Ortiz (5th)

Anthony Joshua:

• Gary Cornish (unranked & unbeaten)
• Dillian Whyte (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 6th though)
• Charles Martin (10th, the IBF champ & also unbeaten)
• Dominic Breazeale (unranked & unbeaten - he is currently rated 8th though)
• Eric Molina (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory)
• Wladimir Klitschko (2nd, a future Hall-of-Famer & only tasted defeat once in the 13 years prior)
• Carlos Takam (unranked, but was the IBF's mandatory & a late substitute opponent)
• Joseph Parker (3rd, the WBO champ & also unbeaten)

How many times has Deontay Wilder attempted to unify the heavyweight division? Zero

How many mandatory defences of his WBC title has ‘The Bronze Bomber’ performed during his thirty nine months title reign? Only once, against an opponent on a poor run of form and had already defeated

Other than Bermane Stiverne & Luis Ortiz, how many times has the American competed against top-ten world class opposition? Zero

How many times has Deontay Wilder or his team attempted to initiate contract negotiations to Anthony Joshua’s team and proposed the terms for a potential bout? Zero

Is it true that AJ was paid almost twice as much for the Joseph Parker (≈$20m) bout alone than the combined total that Wilder commanded for all eight of his WBC world title fights (≈$11.1m)? Yes

Is it true that AJ holds the IBF, WBA, WBO & IBO titles, with Wilder only possessing the WBC belt? Yes

Is it true that ESPN, The RING & BoxRec rate Anthony Joshua above Deontay Wilder in their heavyweight rankings? Yes

How many times has Deontay Wilder competed in a WBC world title fight against an opponent that wasn’t affiliated in some manner to Al Haymon? Zero - or possibly one (Johann Duhaupas)

The answers to the questions I’ve posed, coupled with the analysis that I have detailed, pretty much provides a compelling argument that no Deontay Wilder advocate can deny or undermine.

One huge mistake you gave Eric Molina listed as a mandatory defense for Joshua.
Molina was ranked 15th December 2016 when the fought. That's 15th by the ibf.

Also by your own research at the time of their fights. Joshua only had 2 ring magazine rated fights.
Wilder had 3