Luis Ortiz’s team claim ‘robbery’ in Deontay Wilder fight

[oogiebe]

AJ beat Parker
Wilder beat Ortiz

That is all.

[tiny_acres]

AJ beat Parker
Wilder beat Ortiz

That is all.

I'm sick of conspiracy nuts.

[oogiebe]

AJ beat Parker
Wilder beat Ortiz

That is all.

I'm sick of conspiracy nuts.

I see more arguments (really stupid unprovable ones) than opinion sharing and such.

[Ilya Muromets]

No only did Wilder get extra time to recover after the 7th.... The referee sent the boxers to neutral corners before he started the 8th... That was funny as Hell. That was BS... Only God knows if it changed the outcome... But it might have.

Ridiculous. The ref doesn't jump in at a critical moment during a round when one fighter is suddenly in trouble and rubber legged... to give him a medical checkup to make sure he's OK! That's the whole object of boxing, to do that to your opponent! That's totally indefensible. That's crazy. How can you defend that? Imagine if refs got in the habit of doing that when every fighter got hit hard and wobbled!

Yes, it was crazy (and very fishy) move, but in all fairness to referee, it looked more like ringside doctor called that break. Referee had to listen to him, because doctor could have sought something in Wilder that bothered him.

So the ringside doctor signaled for the action to stop because he was afraid that Wilder might get hurt? Hey, it's boxing not tiddly winks! The object of the game is to hurt the other guy and knock him down! Might be interesting to see a video of the ringside doctor. Did someone perhaps whisper something in to his ear first? Yes, crazy and indefensible - and yet you see right above they try to defend it by going on about "conspiracy theories" or saying it's a fait accompli (that means, it's over fordaboudit), which is just what I said above, what they always do. People yell and then it's just swept under the rug and forgotten. Crooked boxing.

[Boxing Writer]

Ridiculous. The ref doesn't jump in at a critical moment during a round when one fighter is suddenly in trouble and rubber legged... to give him a medical checkup to make sure he's OK! That's the whole object of boxing, to do that to your opponent! That's totally indefensible. That's crazy. How can you defend that? Imagine if refs got in the habit of doing that when every fighter got hit hard and wobbled!

Yes, it was crazy (and very fishy) move, but in all fairness to referee, it looked more like ringside doctor called that break. Referee had to listen to him, because doctor could have sought something in Wilder that bothered him.

So the ringside doctor signaled for the action to stop because he was afraid that Wilder might get hurt? Hey, it's boxing not tiddly winks! The object of the game is to hurt the other guy and knock him down! Might be interesting to see a video of the ringside doctor. Did someone perhaps whisper something in to his ear first? Yes, crazy and indefensible - and yet you see right above they try to defend it by going on about "conspiracy theories" or saying it's a fait accompli (that means, it's over fordaboudit), which is just what I said above, what they always do. People yell and then it's just swept under the rug and forgotten. Crooked boxing.

I'm not arguing your point, I just think that referee gets undeserved criticism for the job that was done by doctor.

[Ilya Muromets]

Yes, it was crazy (and very fishy) move, but in all fairness to referee, it looked more like ringside doctor called that break. Referee had to listen to him, because doctor could have sought something in Wilder that bothered him.

So the ringside doctor signaled for the action to stop because he was afraid that Wilder might get hurt? Hey, it's boxing not tiddly winks! The object of the game is to hurt the other guy and knock him down! Might be interesting to see a video of the ringside doctor. Did someone perhaps whisper something in to his ear first? Yes, crazy and indefensible - and yet you see right above they try to defend it by going on about "conspiracy theories" or saying it's a fait accompli (that means, it's over fordaboudit), which is just what I said above, what they always do. People yell and then it's just swept under the rug and forgotten. Crooked boxing.

I'm not arguing your point, I just think that referee gets undeserved criticism for the job that was done by doctor.

My comments weren't aimed at you. Your comment was legit. You're right, it was the doctor. That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

[Ilya Muromets]

... That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

Except it is not justifiable. He can't stop the fight right in the middle of the action like that and give the house fighter time to recuperate. He could have called off the fight and said that Wilder is unfit to continue, that's all.

There's a million cases like this in crooked boxing. People gripe for five minutes and then it's swept under the rug and you hear no more about it.

[oogiebe]

How many Don Quixote's are there here?

[Ilya Muromets]

How many Don Quixote's are there here?

[oogiebe]

How many Don Quixote's are there here?

LMAO! YEah! That's him! LOL!

[Ilya Muromets]

How many Don Quixote's are there here?

LMAO! YEah! That's him! LOL!

[Badhusker]

... That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

Except it is not justifiable. He can't stop the fight right in the middle of the action like that and give the house fighter time to recuperate. He could have called off the fight and said that Wilder is unfit to continue, that's all.

There's a million cases like this in crooked boxing. People gripe for five minutes and then it's swept under the rug and you hear no more about it.

X2X, why don't you, your brother asdfjkl, and your dad Kalan just STFU. Your hatred of Wilder and unconditional love of Povetkin is annoying, to say the least. Move on.

[punchoutsb]

Nothing to see here folks. Wilder weathered Ortiz's storm and then stopped him.

[candyslim]

Nothing's gonna come of it, but I'm kinda surprised they weren't raising hell about this the night it happened.

Absolutely. It's a bit firkin late now. If they'd have complained at the time then they have could have been taken seriously now it just sounds like sour grapes and seems desperate.

[candyslim]

... That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

Except it is not justifiable. He can't stop the fight right in the middle of the action like that and give the house fighter time to recuperate. He could have called off the fight and said that Wilder is unfit to continue, that's all.

There's a million cases like this in crooked boxing. People gripe for five minutes and then it's swept under the rug and you hear no more about it.

X2X, why don't you, your brother asdfjkl, and your dad Kalan just STFU. Your hatred of Wilder and unconditional love of Povetkin is annoying, to say the least. Move on.

He's right you know. Save your hatred for Hearn and Joshua and your unconditional love for Wilder. That's just so much better

[BitPlayer]

Immediately after the 60 seconds were up before anything at all happened? If there is any doctor checking to be done it should be done between rounds.

Apparently, this is the new rule and it cannot interfere with corner action, so...love it or hate it, it is what it is. I don't like it.

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

[BitPlayer]

Then that docter should have stopped the fight and declare Ortiz to be the winner.

No because he checked him and found him to be ok to continue, like what normally happens with these checks

I hope that Povetkin, the Nelson Mandela of boxing will finally receive some justice and that Wilder, the Robert Ford of boxing will get what he deserves.

Everybodies FREE to take SARMs

[asdfjkl]

Then that docter should have stopped the fight and declare Ortiz to be the winner.

No because he checked him and found him to be ok to continue, like what normally happens with these checks

I hope that Povetkin, the Nelson Mandela of boxing will finally receive some justice and that Wilder, the Robert Ford of boxing will get what he deserves.

Everybodies FREE to take SARMs

Yea, and he couldn't do that during the break :s. Nevertheless, Wilder performed much better as I expected. But if he broke his hand like he did against Arreola he would certainly have lost.

[caldo2025]

Can't we just stop scheduling any big fights in freaking NYC now? These ridiculous doctor interruptions have been a joke. I can understand Ortiz's Team being upset but they should have known something like it would happen when signing on to fight in that venue.

[danconnollyeire]

Immediately after the 60 seconds were up before anything at all happened? If there is any doctor checking to be done it should be done between rounds.

Apparently, this is the new rule and it cannot interfere with corner action, so...love it or hate it, it is what it is. I don't like it.

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

Did they? Ever heard of Don King?

[jamamb]

so much butt hurt, though the beard face shield stuff was even worse

[oogiebe]

so much butt hurt, though the beard face shield stuff was even worse

[Ilya Muromets]

Apparently, this is the new rule and it cannot interfere with corner action, so...love it or hate it, it is what it is. I don't like it.

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

Can you show me a single example where a ref/ring doctor dived in at the cricial moment during a round when a fighter was wobbled and in trouble?

[oogiebe]

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

Can you show me a single example where a ref/ring doctor dived in at the cricial moment during a round when a fighter was wobbled and in trouble?

Never during a round. Could delay start of round. I had posted in this thread another fight where that happened.

[Ilya Muromets]

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

Can you show me a single example where a ref/ring doctor dived in at the cricial moment during a round when a fighter was wobbled and in trouble?

Never during a round. Could delay start of round. I had posted in this thread another fight where that happened.

Never during a round. That's what I'm saying! Between rounds sure, but never like that!