the total split money in aj fights

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wlad: around 40m
parker: around 30m
takam: around 15m (only about 1m for takam lol)
breazeale/molina/etc: under 5m

what reason is there to believe this 100-200m coming from that ppl are talking about for wilder? wlad was a major draw who made like even 10m vs nobodies, but him vs aj didnt even do close to that
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They are bullshitting, offer AJ 60 mil and fight wherever you like and he'll accept.

Wilder his team did a very smart investment in youtubers, if you make a vid about Wilder every day where you blackmail all boxers except for Wilder himself we'll give you a 100 dollar a vid. A few youtubers gladly accepted and spread the biggest bullshit ever on dayly basis. It costed Wilder their team like a 100k in total and the reputation of Wilder skyrockets. If you tell the truth the youtubers simply remove your comment, if you dislike you won't see their vids any more, if you like, all of your friends will see the vid as well. So slowly more and more Americans see their vids and actually believe it's true every once in a while. You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:22 You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:22 You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
Well, read their comments and watch their youtube vids, they even involve slavery with it?! What are they? Crazy?
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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:34
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:22 You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
Well, read their comments and watch their youtube vids, they even involve slavery with it?! What are they? Crazy?
There's idiots everywhere. People can say your blind love and defense for Povetkin is just as bad as them.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:37
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:34
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30 I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
Well, read their comments and watch their youtube vids, they even involve slavery with it?! What are they? Crazy?
There's idiots everywhere. People can say your blind love and defense for Povetkin is just as bad as them.
I talk facts, and I understand it you don't like the facts, but that's not my problem.
They talk bullshit and everybody knows it.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:22 You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
It seems that racist comments are allowed to be submitted to this forum. :brick:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 04:44
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:22 You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
It seems that racist comments are allowed to be submitted to this forum. :brick:
Only if you bash Americans.
It's pathetic
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tiny_acres wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 05:16
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 04:44
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30 I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
It seems that racist comments are allowed to be submitted to this forum. :brick:
Only if you bash Americans.
It's pathetic
Damn, the ego appears to be so big, if you don't act like Americans are the most intelligent people in the world, they consider you to be a racist :doh:
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jamamb wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 01:50 wlad: around 40m
parker: around 30m
takam: around 15m (only about 1m for takam lol)
breazeale/molina/etc: under 5m

what reason is there to believe this 100-200m coming from that ppl are talking about for wilder? wlad was a major draw who made like even 10m vs nobodies, but him vs aj didnt even do close to that
60m at most, and about 80-90% of these money will be generated on the British market. So I don't think 12.5m offer is bad or Wilder. His team will probably negotiate it up to 15m but giving Wilder more than that would be stupid from AJ's side. Or they can offer Wilder to give him all the revenue from US TV while AJ will get all the money, that will be generated on PPV in UK,
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Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 04:44
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:30
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 02:22 You know, Americans aren't the most intelligent people around.
I'm really just sick of you. You are a waste of a poster to this board. I might as well put you back on the blocked list.
It seems that racist comments are allowed to be submitted to this forum. :brick:
I usually let dumb sh@t go, but it was about the 4th time in less than an hour this guy was posting something along these lines.
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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 06:41
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 05:16
Enlightened-One wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 04:44
It seems that racist comments are allowed to be submitted to this forum. :brick:
Only if you bash Americans.
It's pathetic
Damn, the ego appears to be so big, if you don't act like Americans are the most intelligent people in the world, they consider you to be a racist :doh:
When you mention it 4 times in an hour, where it has nothing to do with the discussion, it makes you look like you have an agenda. Keep with the conversation, which is about boxing.
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Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:38
jamamb wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 01:50 wlad: around 40m
parker: around 30m
takam: around 15m (only about 1m for takam lol)
breazeale/molina/etc: under 5m

what reason is there to believe this 100-200m coming from that ppl are talking about for wilder? wlad was a major draw who made like even 10m vs nobodies, but him vs aj didnt even do close to that
60m at most, and about 80-90% of these money will be generated on the British market. So I don't think 12.5m offer is bad or Wilder. His team will probably negotiate it up to 15m but giving Wilder more than that would be stupid from AJ's side. Or they can offer Wilder to give him all the revenue from US TV while AJ will get all the money, that will be generated on PPV in UK,
I think it can achieve the $80-100 USD that some others have stated. So if Parker got 33%, Wilder should easily get 33-35%. No? Nobody thinks it is getting $200 million. I mis-typed $199 last night.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:57
Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:38
jamamb wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 01:50 wlad: around 40m
parker: around 30m
takam: around 15m (only about 1m for takam lol)
breazeale/molina/etc: under 5m

what reason is there to believe this 100-200m coming from that ppl are talking about for wilder? wlad was a major draw who made like even 10m vs nobodies, but him vs aj didnt even do close to that
60m at most, and about 80-90% of these money will be generated on the British market. So I don't think 12.5m offer is bad or Wilder. His team will probably negotiate it up to 15m but giving Wilder more than that would be stupid from AJ's side. Or they can offer Wilder to give him all the revenue from US TV while AJ will get all the money, that will be generated on PPV in UK,
I think it can achieve the $80-100 USD that some others have stated. So if Parker got 33%, Wilder should easily get 33-35%. No? Nobody thinks it is getting $200 million. I mis-typed $199 last night.
I don't think in can be much bigger than AJ vs Wlad. AJ and Wlad got $20m each for that fight and Wlad brought in that fight a legendary name and German TV money. If fighters' total purse in AJ - Wilder fight will be $50m, I can't see how getting $15m (or 30%) is a bad deal for Wilder. If it's $60m fight, than give him $18m, but that would be a risk for AJ team, because does Wilder bring to he table additional $20m comparing to Klitschko? I don't think so.
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Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 08:16
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:57
Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:38
60m at most, and about 80-90% of these money will be generated on the British market. So I don't think 12.5m offer is bad or Wilder. His team will probably negotiate it up to 15m but giving Wilder more than that would be stupid from AJ's side. Or they can offer Wilder to give him all the revenue from US TV while AJ will get all the money, that will be generated on PPV in UK,
I think it can achieve the $80-100 USD that some others have stated. So if Parker got 33%, Wilder should easily get 33-35%. No? Nobody thinks it is getting $200 million. I mis-typed $199 last night.
I don't think in can be much bigger than AJ vs Wlad. AJ and Wlad got $20m each for that fight and Wlad brought in that fight a legendary name and German TV money. If fighters' total purse in AJ - Wilder fight will be $50m, I can't see how getting $15m (or 30%) is a bad deal for Wilder. If it's $60m fight, than give him $18m, but that would be a risk for AJ team, because does Wilder bring to he table additional $20m comparing to Klitschko? I don't think so.
I think it can generate more. The ending solution is easy for Hearn. Offer Wilder 33% that Parker got or the option to take $15 million. Then it is up to Wilder's team to take the guaranteed money, or role the dice in the %s. I think they roll the dice. Also, come up with a location and date for the fight. I'm being realistic, thinking the fight is still a year away. More time to grow it, have AJ fight in the US, etc.

If this fight was to gross more than Parker or Wlad's fight, Wilde should certainly get paid more, is my point.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 08:21
Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 08:16
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:57

I think it can achieve the $80-100 USD that some others have stated. So if Parker got 33%, Wilder should easily get 33-35%. No? Nobody thinks it is getting $200 million. I mis-typed $199 last night.
I don't think in can be much bigger than AJ vs Wlad. AJ and Wlad got $20m each for that fight and Wlad brought in that fight a legendary name and German TV money. If fighters' total purse in AJ - Wilder fight will be $50m, I can't see how getting $15m (or 30%) is a bad deal for Wilder. If it's $60m fight, than give him $18m, but that would be a risk for AJ team, because does Wilder bring to he table additional $20m comparing to Klitschko? I don't think so.
I think it can generate more. The ending solution is easy for Hearn. Offer Wilder 33% that Parker got or the option to take $15 million. Then it is up to Wilder's team to take the guaranteed money, or role the dice in the %s. I think they roll the dice. Also, come up with a location and date for the fight. I'm being realistic, thinking the fight is still a year away. More time to grow it, have AJ fight in the US, etc.

If this fight was to gross more than Parker or Wlad's fight, Wilde should certainly get paid more, is my point.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:54
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 06:41
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 05:16 Only if you bash Americans.
It's pathetic
Damn, the ego appears to be so big, if you don't act like Americans are the most intelligent people in the world, they consider you to be a racist :doh:
When you mention it 4 times in an hour, where it has nothing to do with the discussion, it makes you look like you have an agenda. Keep with the conversation, which is about boxing.
Isn't it the lyers who are lying for an agenda? Spreading bullshit all the time? Making miscalculations on purpose all the time? It must be either that or beïng retarded right? Or do you have any other suggestion? According to people here I have agenda's all the time, with Briggs, against Haye, with Povetkin, against Wilder, with AJ now, with Tyrone Spong, with Junlong Zhang, with Miller, it's endless and random. I don't care about color, about where you come from, or name it. Somehow Wilder his fans are completely deluded, a 100m fight with Deontay involved doesn't exist. They scream all over the place that it's a 12% fight, I mean what are you? Retarded? Yes, they clearly are. I think Mike Tyson is still more popular 15 years after his last win as Deontay Wilder in his prime. Not because he's such a nice guy, but simply because he tried to make his promises come true.


I think it's about time that AJ should treat Deontay Wilder the same way as Tyson Fury treats... What was his name again, Daffy Duck. You don't want it? You keep having a big mouth without showing up? Oké, whatever, have fun with your fanboys, I'm not interested any more. Sign the deal, or don't, this is your last chance.
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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 09:42
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:54
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 06:41
Damn, the ego appears to be so big, if you don't act like Americans are the most intelligent people in the world, they consider you to be a racist :doh:
When you mention it 4 times in an hour, where it has nothing to do with the discussion, it makes you look like you have an agenda. Keep with the conversation, which is about boxing.
Isn't it the lyers who are lying for an agenda? Spreading bullshit all the time? Making miscalculations on purpose all the time? It must be either that or beïng retarded right? Or do you have any other suggestion? According to people here I have agenda's all the time, with Briggs, against Haye, with Povetkin, against Wilder, with AJ now, with Tyrone Spong, with Junlong Zhang, with Miller, it's endless and random. I don't care about color, about where you come from, or name it. Somehow Wilder his fans are completely deluded, a 100m fight with Deontay involved doesn't exist. They scream all over the place that it's a 12% fight, I mean what are you? Retarded? Yes, they clearly are. I think Mike Tyson is still more popular 15 years after his last win as Deontay Wilder in his prime. Not because he's such a nice guy, but simply because he tried to make his promises come true.


I think it's about time that AJ should treat Deontay Wilder the same way as Tyson Fury treats... What was his name again, Daffy Duck. You don't want it? You keep having a big mouth without showing up? Oké, whatever, have fun with your fanboys, I'm not interested any more. Sign the deal, or don't, this is your last chance.
Hearn himself thinks the fight is worth $80-$100 million. I think it falls within that range as well, especially since I don't see it happening for another year. Anyhow, again, it doesn't matter what the fight might earn. Negotiate the fight to 35%. Parker got 33%. If the fight earns more money for Wilder, great for both guys. If less, he should have taken the flat rate. Do you think Hearn, off the bat in his first offer, offered him 35% or more of what he thought the fight would be worth? Of course he didn't, he pitched a low offer. I'm just finding it hard why you are stuck on how much money overall the fight earns. Give Wilder 35% and let him EARN what he brings to the table!

Everybody here has seen your posts man. You don't like America for whatever reason. You think Povetkin is a top 10 all time HW and guilty of nothing. Half your "points and facts" are just absurd opinions. Stick to the topics at hand.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 10:53
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 09:42
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:54
When you mention it 4 times in an hour, where it has nothing to do with the discussion, it makes you look like you have an agenda. Keep with the conversation, which is about boxing.
Isn't it the lyers who are lying for an agenda? Spreading bullshit all the time? Making miscalculations on purpose all the time? It must be either that or beïng retarded right? Or do you have any other suggestion? According to people here I have agenda's all the time, with Briggs, against Haye, with Povetkin, against Wilder, with AJ now, with Tyrone Spong, with Junlong Zhang, with Miller, it's endless and random. I don't care about color, about where you come from, or name it. Somehow Wilder his fans are completely deluded, a 100m fight with Deontay involved doesn't exist. They scream all over the place that it's a 12% fight, I mean what are you? Retarded? Yes, they clearly are. I think Mike Tyson is still more popular 15 years after his last win as Deontay Wilder in his prime. Not because he's such a nice guy, but simply because he tried to make his promises come true.
I think it's about time that AJ should treat Deontay Wilder the same way as Tyson Fury treats... What was his name again, Daffy Duck. You don't want it? You keep having a big mouth without showing up? Oké, whatever, have fun with your fanboys, I'm not interested any more. Sign the deal, or don't, this is your last chance.
Hearn himself thinks the fight is worth $80-$100 million. I think it falls within that range as well, especially since I don't see it happening for another year. Anyhow, again, it doesn't matter what the fight might earn. Negotiate the fight to 35%. Parker got 33%. If the fight earns more money for Wilder, great for both guys. If less, he should have taken the flat rate. Do you think Hearn, off the bat in his first offer, offered him 35% or more of what he thought the fight would be worth? Of course he didn't, he pitched a low offer. I'm just finding it hard why you are stuck on how much money overall the fight earns. Give Wilder 35% and let him EARN what he brings to the table!
Everybody here has seen your posts man. You don't like America for whatever reason. You think Povetkin is a top 10 all time HW and guilty of nothing. Half your "points and facts" are just absurd opinions. Stick to the topics at hand.
I'm quite confident that the fight could have been a 100 mil if Wilder didn't fight bum after bum after bum all his carreer. I also think that if Wilder beats Whyte, Miller, Parker, Fury, Kownaki, Pulev and so forth Eddy wouldn't have any problem with giving him 50%, even despite AJ got nearly all the belts. But all the big guys of back then (either Klitschko, Chageav, Tor Hammer, Char, Chisora, even Browne, Briggs, Mansour) have been completely iced and ignored back then. Everybody was annoyed by it and now there's a big payday possible and he's in his prime and there's a one fight opportunity to unify all belts and suddenly we all have to listen to Wilder his commands and pay him?

Euh yea, what about NO! ?
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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:16
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 10:53
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 09:42
Isn't it the lyers who are lying for an agenda? Spreading bullshit all the time? Making miscalculations on purpose all the time? It must be either that or beïng retarded right? Or do you have any other suggestion? According to people here I have agenda's all the time, with Briggs, against Haye, with Povetkin, against Wilder, with AJ now, with Tyrone Spong, with Junlong Zhang, with Miller, it's endless and random. I don't care about color, about where you come from, or name it. Somehow Wilder his fans are completely deluded, a 100m fight with Deontay involved doesn't exist. They scream all over the place that it's a 12% fight, I mean what are you? Retarded? Yes, they clearly are. I think Mike Tyson is still more popular 15 years after his last win as Deontay Wilder in his prime. Not because he's such a nice guy, but simply because he tried to make his promises come true.
I think it's about time that AJ should treat Deontay Wilder the same way as Tyson Fury treats... What was his name again, Daffy Duck. You don't want it? You keep having a big mouth without showing up? Oké, whatever, have fun with your fanboys, I'm not interested any more. Sign the deal, or don't, this is your last chance.
Hearn himself thinks the fight is worth $80-$100 million. I think it falls within that range as well, especially since I don't see it happening for another year. Anyhow, again, it doesn't matter what the fight might earn. Negotiate the fight to 35%. Parker got 33%. If the fight earns more money for Wilder, great for both guys. If less, he should have taken the flat rate. Do you think Hearn, off the bat in his first offer, offered him 35% or more of what he thought the fight would be worth? Of course he didn't, he pitched a low offer. I'm just finding it hard why you are stuck on how much money overall the fight earns. Give Wilder 35% and let him EARN what he brings to the table!
Everybody here has seen your posts man. You don't like America for whatever reason. You think Povetkin is a top 10 all time HW and guilty of nothing. Half your "points and facts" are just absurd opinions. Stick to the topics at hand.
I'm quite confident that the fight could have been a 100 mil if Wilder didn't fight bum after bum after bum all his carreer. I also think that if Wilder beats Whyte, Miller, Parker, Fury, Kownaki, Pulev and so forth Eddy wouldn't have any problem with giving him 50%, even despite AJ got nearly all the belts. But all the big guys of back then (either Klitschko, Chageav, Tor Hammer, Char, Chisora, even Browne, Briggs, Mansour) have been completely iced and ignored back then. Everybody was annoyed by it and now there's a big payday possible and he's in his prime and there's a one fight opportunity to unify all belts and suddenly we all have to listen to Wilder his commands and pay him?

Euh yea, what about NO! ?
You are very thick. Parker got 33%, Wilder should get at least that. Negotiate to the point where he is offered 35% OR a flat rate fee of maybe $15. Let him decide which one to take. Naturally if the fight earns more money than say the Parker or Wlad fights, Wilder should be paid more. It's a simple point that you aren't getting.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:29
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:16
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 10:53 Hearn himself thinks the fight is worth $80-$100 million. I think it falls within that range as well, especially since I don't see it happening for another year. Anyhow, again, it doesn't matter what the fight might earn. Negotiate the fight to 35%. Parker got 33%. If the fight earns more money for Wilder, great for both guys. If less, he should have taken the flat rate. Do you think Hearn, off the bat in his first offer, offered him 35% or more of what he thought the fight would be worth? Of course he didn't, he pitched a low offer. I'm just finding it hard why you are stuck on how much money overall the fight earns. Give Wilder 35% and let him EARN what he brings to the table!
Everybody here has seen your posts man. You don't like America for whatever reason. You think Povetkin is a top 10 all time HW and guilty of nothing. Half your "points and facts" are just absurd opinions. Stick to the topics at hand.
I'm quite confident that the fight could have been a 100 mil if Wilder didn't fight bum after bum after bum all his carreer. I also think that if Wilder beats Whyte, Miller, Parker, Fury, Kownaki, Pulev and so forth Eddy wouldn't have any problem with giving him 50%, even despite AJ got nearly all the belts. But all the big guys of back then (either Klitschko, Chageav, Tor Hammer, Char, Chisora, even Browne, Briggs, Mansour) have been completely iced and ignored back then. Everybody was annoyed by it and now there's a big payday possible and he's in his prime and there's a one fight opportunity to unify all belts and suddenly we all have to listen to Wilder his commands and pay him?

Euh yea, what about NO! ?
You are very thick. Parker got 33%, Wilder should get at least that. Negotiate to the point where he is offered 35% OR a flat rate fee of maybe $15. Let him decide which one to take. Naturally if the fight earns more money than say the Parker or Wlad fights, Wilder should be paid more. It's a simple point that you aren't getting.
Well the fact is that Wilder doesn't generate money, it's basically AJ's pocket who's paying, not Wilder his. Whyte generates more money as Wilder does. And AJ's team is trying to do everything they can to help Wilder generating more money, but he refuses everything. 12,5M is probably more as 35% is. It's more money in one fight as Wilder made in his entire carreer! Imagine AJ could do the same?! Especially after 40 matches, it's insaine and he still refuses! What more does he wish?
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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:54
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:29
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:16
I'm quite confident that the fight could have been a 100 mil if Wilder didn't fight bum after bum after bum all his carreer. I also think that if Wilder beats Whyte, Miller, Parker, Fury, Kownaki, Pulev and so forth Eddy wouldn't have any problem with giving him 50%, even despite AJ got nearly all the belts. But all the big guys of back then (either Klitschko, Chageav, Tor Hammer, Char, Chisora, even Browne, Briggs, Mansour) have been completely iced and ignored back then. Everybody was annoyed by it and now there's a big payday possible and he's in his prime and there's a one fight opportunity to unify all belts and suddenly we all have to listen to Wilder his commands and pay him?

Euh yea, what about NO! ?
You are very thick. Parker got 33%, Wilder should get at least that. Negotiate to the point where he is offered 35% OR a flat rate fee of maybe $15. Let him decide which one to take. Naturally if the fight earns more money than say the Parker or Wlad fights, Wilder should be paid more. It's a simple point that you aren't getting.
Well the fact is that Wilder doesn't generate money, it's basically AJ's pocket who's paying, not Wilder his. Whyte generates more money as Wilder does. And AJ's team is trying to do everything they can to help Wilder generating more money, but he refuses everything. 12,5M is probably more as 35% is. It's more money in one fight as Wilder made in his entire carreer! Imagine AJ could do the same?! Especially after 40 matches, it's insaine and he still refuses! What more does he wish?
This is pointless. All I'm saying, Wilder deserves 35%, seeing Parker got 33 1/3%. Do you agree?

If this fight generates big money, sorry man, it would have a lot to do with Wilder. This is the biggest fight in the HW division in years and the biggest (IMO) in boxing to make right now. To say Wilder has no part of that is silly.
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Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 08:16
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:57
Boxing Writer wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 07:38
60m at most, and about 80-90% of these money will be generated on the British market. So I don't think 12.5m offer is bad or Wilder. His team will probably negotiate it up to 15m but giving Wilder more than that would be stupid from AJ's side. Or they can offer Wilder to give him all the revenue from US TV while AJ will get all the money, that will be generated on PPV in UK,
I think it can achieve the $80-100 USD that some others have stated. So if Parker got 33%, Wilder should easily get 33-35%. No? Nobody thinks it is getting $200 million. I mis-typed $199 last night.
I don't think in can be much bigger than AJ vs Wlad. AJ and Wlad got $20m each for that fight and Wlad brought in that fight a legendary name and German TV money. If fighters' total purse in AJ - Wilder fight will be $50m, I can't see how getting $15m (or 30%) is a bad deal for Wilder. If it's $60m fight, than give him $18m, but that would be a risk for AJ team, because does Wilder bring to he table additional $20m comparing to Klitschko? I don't think so.
It's a fight that should do 500MM to 900MM (dollars not viewers) in PPV... How often in Fistic History have 2 Heavyweight Champions who are the 2 most high profile Heavyweights in the world - and undefeated in over 60 fights clashed??? It never happened in the History of the sport... It SHOULD be incredibly big, but it's not really that big.

Joshua has been promoted very well in the UK.... Wilder has been promoted extremely poorly in the US.... You can't fight in Alabama... You should have gotten your ass to Vegas several years ago and created a better image... That's why, to everyone's surprise, this fight may FLOP!!! .... I would offer Wilder chicken feed for the fight... 15MM tops.
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:01
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:54
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:29
You are very thick. Parker got 33%, Wilder should get at least that. Negotiate to the point where he is offered 35% OR a flat rate fee of maybe $15. Let him decide which one to take. Naturally if the fight earns more money than say the Parker or Wlad fights, Wilder should be paid more. It's a simple point that you aren't getting.
Well the fact is that Wilder doesn't generate money, it's basically AJ's pocket who's paying, not Wilder his. Whyte generates more money as Wilder does. And AJ's team is trying to do everything they can to help Wilder generating more money, but he refuses everything. 12,5M is probably more as 35% is. It's more money in one fight as Wilder made in his entire carreer! Imagine AJ could do the same?! Especially after 40 matches, it's insaine and he still refuses! What more does he wish?
This is pointless. All I'm saying, Wilder deserves 35%, seeing Parker got 33 1/3%. Do you agree?

If this fight generates big money, sorry man, it would have a lot to do with Wilder. This is the biggest fight in the HW division in years and the biggest (IMO) in boxing to make right now. To say Wilder has no part of that is silly.
But don't you agree that this fight could easely have been much much bigger if Wilder had a win against Whyte, Parker, Hughie, Dubois, Joe Joyce, name them? Or will be much bigger in the US if AJ fights a few Americans? Or even Ortiz?
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:56
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:01
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:54
Well the fact is that Wilder doesn't generate money, it's basically AJ's pocket who's paying, not Wilder his. Whyte generates more money as Wilder does. And AJ's team is trying to do everything they can to help Wilder generating more money, but he refuses everything. 12,5M is probably more as 35% is. It's more money in one fight as Wilder made in his entire carreer! Imagine AJ could do the same?! Especially after 40 matches, it's insaine and he still refuses! What more does he wish?
This is pointless. All I'm saying, Wilder deserves 35%, seeing Parker got 33 1/3%. Do you agree?

If this fight generates big money, sorry man, it would have a lot to do with Wilder. This is the biggest fight in the HW division in years and the biggest (IMO) in boxing to make right now. To say Wilder has no part of that is silly.
But don't you agree that this fight could easely have been much much bigger if Wilder had a win against Whyte, Parker, Hughie, Dubois, Joe Joyce, name them? Or will be much bigger in the US if AJ fights a few Americans? Or even Ortiz?
Of course it will be much bigger if AJ fights in the US and increases exposure to fight fans in the states. Thus one reason why Miller is a possible opponent. Just the same Wilder can expand his coverage in the UK, fighting a HW from there. It also shows why there was no date/location on the offer. Hearn wants to pitch low, and build the fight over a year.

Still, you avoided the question. What % do you think Wilder deserves? Not how much the fight will make, how much money he should make, etc. What % do you think Wilder should make from the purse?
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