Historically, Where Would You Put the LARA/HURD Classic?

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oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:31 There may never be another Gotti/Ward. I still watch those fights!
There was on Saturday according to Waldo :doh:
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:34
oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:31 There may never be another Gotti/Ward. I still watch those fights!
There was on Saturday according to Waldo :doh:
I rest my case! :OhYes:
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Ward-Augustus (or was he still Burton then?) was as good as any of the Gatti-Ward fights, and quite a bit better than last Saturday's fight.

I still think that Augustus (Burton?) was shafted in that bout. He had a pretty big edge in the punch stats, especially the very important punches landed.

But Ward was crazy busy, and the fight was held in his New England territory, undoubtedly accounting for the wide scores in his favor.

Still, it might have been the best fight ever seen on ESPN.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:45 Ward-Augustus (or was he still Burton then?) was as good as any of the Gatti-Ward fights, and quite a bit better than last Saturday's fight.

I still think that Augustus (Burton?) was shafted in that bout. He had a pretty big edge in the punch stats, especially the very important punches landed.

But Ward was crazy busy, and the fight was held in his New England territory, undoubtedly accounting for the wide scores in his favor.

Still, it might have been the best fight ever seen on ESPN.
It's up there certainly

Oscar Larios vs Izzy Vazquez 2 was phenomenal as well. There are also a few kinda forgotten ones between guys that never amounted to much, but were still wonderfully entertaining.

Like Brian Minto vs Vinny Maddalone. That was fun!

There was also a 4 rounder between unknown Cruiserweights Anterio Vines and Chris McInerney I think? Might not have the spelling on that last name right, but it was fun.

I don't think Chris ever even fought again after that.
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gilgamesh wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:49
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:45 Ward-Augustus (or was he still Burton then?) was as good as any of the Gatti-Ward fights, and quite a bit better than last Saturday's fight.

I still think that Augustus (Burton?) was shafted in that bout. He had a pretty big edge in the punch stats, especially the very important punches landed.

But Ward was crazy busy, and the fight was held in his New England territory, undoubtedly accounting for the wide scores in his favor.

Still, it might have been the best fight ever seen on ESPN.
It's up there certainly

Oscar Larios vs Izzy Vazquez 2 was phenomenal as well. There are also a few kinda forgotten ones between guys that never amounted to much, but were still wonderfully entertaining.

Like Brian Minto vs Vinny Maddalone. That was fun!

There was also a 4 rounder between unknown Cruiserweights Anterio Vines and Chris McInerney I think? Might not have the spelling on that last name right, but it was fun.

I don't think Chris ever even fought again after that.
Never said any of those fights weren't good, but Gotti/Ward is hallowed ground.
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Gatti/Ward is especially special for me because it was within my 1st year of Boxing fandom that I saw that.

Some fights from the past top it, but I've never seen a better fight Live still in now near 2 decades of fandom.
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:33 You can't watch much boxing if you think that's the best fight since Gatti/Ward which took place what? 15/16 years ago :lol: Absolute horse dung
What I said..
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:23
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:33 You can't watch much boxing if you think that's the best fight since Gatti/Ward which took place what? 15/16 years ago :lol: Absolute horse dung
What I said..
Just off the top of my head

Izzy vs Marquez 2 and 3

Provo vs Tim Bradley

Margarito vs Cotto

Cotto vs Ricardo Torres

Castillo vs Corrales FFS!
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gilgamesh wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:23
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:33 You can't watch much boxing if you think that's the best fight since Gatti/Ward which took place what? 15/16 years ago :lol: Absolute horse dung
What I said..
Just off the top of my head

Izzy vs Marquez 2 and 3

Provo vs Tim Bradley

Margarito vs Cotto

Cotto vs Ricardo Torres

Castillo vs Corrales FFS!
Of course Castillo-Corrales. Drama at it's best.

And Cotto-Torres is a forgotten classic.

I don't rate Cotto-Margarito that highly. After about 4 rounds it became somewhat of a beat down by Margarito. Of course I lost a bet on that bout, so my view on it is somewhat colored.

Wait, don't y'all forget Morales-Barrera l.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:35
gilgamesh wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:23

What I said..
Just off the top of my head

Izzy vs Marquez 2 and 3

Provo vs Tim Bradley

Margarito vs Cotto

Cotto vs Ricardo Torres

Castillo vs Corrales FFS!
Of course Castillo-Corrales. Drama at it's best.

And Cotto-Torres is a forgotten classic.

I don't rate Cotto-Margarito that highly. After about 4 rounds it became somewhat of a beat down by Margarito. Of course I lost a bet on that bout, so my view on it is somewhat colored.

Wait, don't y'all forget Morales-Barrera l.
Monzon - Valdes
Duran - Dejesus
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:35
gilgamesh wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:23

What I said..
Just off the top of my head

Izzy vs Marquez 2 and 3

Provo vs Tim Bradley

Margarito vs Cotto

Cotto vs Ricardo Torres

Castillo vs Corrales FFS!
Of course Castillo-Corrales. Drama at it's best.

And Cotto-Torres is a forgotten classic.

I don't rate Cotto-Margarito that highly. After about 4 rounds it became somewhat of a beat down by Margarito. Of course I lost a bet on that bout, so my view on it is somewhat colored.

Wait, don't y'all forget Morales-Barrera l.
Ain't nobody forgetting Morales vs Barrera 1...but that was BEFORE Gatti-Ward.

Morales vs Barrera 3 wasn't though, and that was awesome too! :OhYes:

Castillo vs Corrales broke my f*cking heart, but it was still a great fight.
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I just saw it again the other night on Fox Sports: J M Marquez vs the Baby Bull Juan Diaz.

Incredible back in forth action. Diaz didn't really have a reputation as a big puncher, but he sure hurt Marquez on several occasions.

But being a HOF fighter, Marquez persevered and stopped Diaz in the 9th in exciting fashion.

Perhaps we digress. Are all these fights better than Lara-Hurd? Hell, yes.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:48 I just saw it again the other night on Fox Sports: J M Marquez vs the Baby Bull Juan Diaz.

Incredible back in forth action. Diaz didn't really have a reputation as a big puncher, but he sure hurt Marquez on several occasions.

But being a HOF fighter, Marquez persevered and stopped Diaz in the 9th in exciting fashion.

Perhaps we digress. Are all these fights better than Lara-Hurd? Hell, yes.
:TU:
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:49
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:48 I just saw it again the other night on Fox Sports: J M Marquez vs the Baby Bull Juan Diaz.

Incredible back in forth action. Diaz didn't really have a reputation as a big puncher, but he sure hurt Marquez on several occasions.

But being a HOF fighter, Marquez persevered and stopped Diaz in the 9th in exciting fashion.

Perhaps we digress. Are all these fights better than Lara-Hurd? Hell, yes.
:TU:
Like Columbo, just one more thing.

I would be remiss if I left out one of my favorite fights of the past few years: Francisco Vargas vs Takashi Miura for the super featherweight title. I think it was undercard to Canelo-Cotto.

What a sensational back and forth punishing battle between 2 of the gutsiest fighters you'll ever see. A one-eyed Vargas looked out of it and ready to crumble---after nearly putting Miura away in the first round---when the fatal 9th round began. But he somehow nailed the buzzsaw Japanese champion with a huge right and put him down.

The ending may have been a trifle premature, but Miura had absorbed a huge amount of punishment and didn't really complain when the ref stepped in.

Sensational stuff.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:25
oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:49
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:48 I just saw it again the other night on Fox Sports: J M Marquez vs the Baby Bull Juan Diaz.

Incredible back in forth action. Diaz didn't really have a reputation as a big puncher, but he sure hurt Marquez on several occasions.

But being a HOF fighter, Marquez persevered and stopped Diaz in the 9th in exciting fashion.

Perhaps we digress. Are all these fights better than Lara-Hurd? Hell, yes.
:TU:
Like Columbo, just one more thing.

I would be remiss if I left out one of my favorite fights of the past few years: Francisco Vargas vs Takashi Miura for the super featherweight title. I think it was undercard to Canelo-Cotto.

What a sensational back and forth punishing battle between 2 of the gutsiest fighters you'll ever see. A one-eyed Vargas looked out of it and ready to crumble---after nearly putting Miura away in the first round---when the fatal 9th round began. But he somehow nailed the buzzsaw Japanese champion with a huge right and put him down.

The ending may have been a trifle premature, but Miura had absorbed a huge amount of punishment and didn't really complain when the ref stepped in.

Sensational stuff.
Worth it! Love the columbo reference! Um...hey...are those Italian shoes???
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:29
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:17
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 12:15

Yip! Enjoyed the fight and it was good to see Lara come out his shell and fire back at the much bigger Hurd but some folk are going way over the top. Wasn't even the best fight this year IMO.

For the OP to compare it to Gatti/Ward is just fuckin absurd!
Did NOT compare it to Gatti/Ward...said it was the best SINCE Gatti/Ward. Which means....go ahead, i'll wait until you catch up....ready? which Means, Gatti and Ward was better in my opinion. Understand now or should i draw some pictures?
You can draw a picture of a penis on your forehead if you like. That would be fitting. Even to say it's the best fight since then is even more absurd! It wasn't even the best fight this year and we're only in April you absolute Jiz stain :roll:
That's a lot of cock talk there fella...it's a boxing site. Starting to worry about ya.
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caldo2025 wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:15
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:29
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:17

Did NOT compare it to Gatti/Ward...said it was the best SINCE Gatti/Ward. Which means....go ahead, i'll wait until you catch up....ready? which Means, Gatti and Ward was better in my opinion. Understand now or should i draw some pictures?
You can draw a picture of a penis on your forehead if you like. That would be fitting. Even to say it's the best fight since then is even more absurd! It wasn't even the best fight this year and we're only in April you absolute Jiz stain :roll:
That's a lot of cock talk there fella...it's a boxing site. Starting to worry about ya.
if you're wanting my comeback from that wity retort you're gonna have to scrape it off your mums false teeth :doh:
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:25
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:15
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:29

You can draw a picture of a penis on your forehead if you like. That would be fitting. Even to say it's the best fight since then is even more absurd! It wasn't even the best fight this year and we're only in April you absolute Jiz stain :roll:
That's a lot of cock talk there fella...it's a boxing site. Starting to worry about ya.
if you're wanting my comeback from that wity retort you're gonna have to scrape it off your mums false teeth :doh:
No offense to anyone here, but that is f'n hysterical! I'm going to use it! I'm laughing so hard I'm crying!
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It was a cool fight, I enjoyed it dearly, pero no mames. You think Gatti/Ward was better than Castillo/Corrales?
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rafacaro_1 wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 02:41 It was a cool fight, I enjoyed it dearly, pero no mames. You think Gatti/Ward was better than Castillo/Corrales?
Corrales vs Castillo was better than Gatti vs Ward and millions times better than Hurd vs Lara.
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gilgamesh wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:23
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:33 You can't watch much boxing if you think that's the best fight since Gatti/Ward which took place what? 15/16 years ago :lol: Absolute horse dung
What I said..
Just off the top of my head

Izzy vs Marquez 2 and 3

Provo vs Tim Bradley

Margarito vs Cotto

Cotto vs Ricardo Torres

Castillo vs Corrales FFS!

Some good ones there for sure.

Wilfredo Gomez v Lupe Pintor

Mosley v DLH 1

Morales v Barrera 1
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:27
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:25
oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:49

:TU:
Like Columbo, just one more thing.

I would be remiss if I left out one of my favorite fights of the past few years: Francisco Vargas vs Takashi Miura for the super featherweight title. I think it was undercard to Canelo-Cotto.

What a sensational back and forth punishing battle between 2 of the gutsiest fighters you'll ever see. A one-eyed Vargas looked out of it and ready to crumble---after nearly putting Miura away in the first round---when the fatal 9th round began. But he somehow nailed the buzzsaw Japanese champion with a huge right and put him down.

The ending may have been a trifle premature, but Miura had absorbed a huge amount of punishment and didn't really complain when the ref stepped in.

Sensational stuff.
Worth it! Love the columbo reference! Um...hey...are those Italian shoes???
"Is this your caaaaa sir? That's a beautiful automobile - may I sir?"

Etc...

Love columbo.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 08:44
oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:27
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:25

Like Columbo, just one more thing.

I would be remiss if I left out one of my favorite fights of the past few years: Francisco Vargas vs Takashi Miura for the super featherweight title. I think it was undercard to Canelo-Cotto.

What a sensational back and forth punishing battle between 2 of the gutsiest fighters you'll ever see. A one-eyed Vargas looked out of it and ready to crumble---after nearly putting Miura away in the first round---when the fatal 9th round began. But he somehow nailed the buzzsaw Japanese champion with a huge right and put him down.

The ending may have been a trifle premature, but Miura had absorbed a huge amount of punishment and didn't really complain when the ref stepped in.

Sensational stuff.
Worth it! Love the columbo reference! Um...hey...are those Italian shoes???
"Is this your caaaaa sir? That's a beautiful automobile - may I sir?"

Etc...

Love columbo.
LOL!!!
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Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:25
caldo2025 wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 17:15
Stuarty wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 14:29

You can draw a picture of a penis on your forehead if you like. That would be fitting. Even to say it's the best fight since then is even more absurd! It wasn't even the best fight this year and we're only in April you absolute Jiz stain :roll:
That's a lot of cock talk there fella...it's a boxing site. Starting to worry about ya.
if you're wanting my comeback from that wity retort you're gonna have to scrape it off your mums false teeth :doh:
Someone actually laughed at this...lol. Did you see that up there. Is that your little brother or something? "Hey, i'm going to put a stupid comment in...MAKE SURE you go in after it and say something like...umm...say I'm the best or something...or umm...Say you'll steal it...that's ti! Don't forget now little bro". Idiots.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 08:39
gilgamesh wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:23

What I said..
Just off the top of my head

Izzy vs Marquez 2 and 3

Provo vs Tim Bradley

Margarito vs Cotto

Cotto vs Ricardo Torres

Castillo vs Corrales FFS!

Some good ones there for sure.

Wilfredo Gomez v Lupe Pintor

Mosley v DLH 1

Morales v Barrera 1
Great fights one and all. The criteria we were going for though was Great fights that took place AFTER Gatti/Ward 1.

Morales vs Barrera 1 is one of my absolute favorite fights of all time though. Top 2.
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