Deontay Wilder vs. Joseph Parker

[wesshaw1985]

[jamamb]

wilder

the only guys who can be reasonably chosen to beat aj or wilder are each other, there 2 beasts at another level

[wesshaw1985]

wilder

the only guys who can be reasonably chosen to beat aj or wilder are each other, there 2 beasts at another level

How do you see Wilder winning?

[Kalan]

I see Parker winning by decision... It would be close... It would be a very interesting fight.

[KiwiRider]

If Parker shows the defence he did against AJ, and produces his best offence, I could see him squeaking out a points win.
It didn't take much for Ortiz or Washington to negate Wilders jab, if Parker can do that and not take his foot off the gas like they did, I give him a chance.

[Loki]

I think Wilders win over Ortiz showed a lot. Although I had Ortiz ahead, I expect Wilder to beat Parker.

[Enlightened-One]

Joseph Parker seems to be fairly resilient and has a fundamentally sound boxing technique. He’s the sort of guy that can outbox Deontay Wilder and also go the distance.

The American has one-punch power and if he fought the Kiwi and managed to stop him, he’d probably be behind on the cards at the time of the stoppage.

Wilder would be the betting favourite for this bout, but I think he’d have a really tough time against Parker and may even drop a decision, because Deontay’s fighting style is very deeply flawed and he relies on his KO power too much.

Even though Wilder looked really impressive in his first bout against Stiverne, the only time the American ever went the distance, the Haitian wasn’t returning fire, but Joseph Parker would and is arguably a much better opponent.

[DrDuke]

If Parker is in a Joshua fight shape, he can lead on scorecards for a while, but without threatening Wilder seriously. However, Wilder will most likely land sooner or later.

[asdfjkl]

I think it will be similar like Hughie Fury vs Parker, with a lot of cry afterwards if Wilder loses. Parker is currently the bigger guy, he fought better opponent and made more money in his boxing carreer despite he's younger.

[oogiebe]

Wilder in 5. Parker's style and lack of reach would be tailor made for Wilder. I don't see that fight on the horizon.

[DMWordsmith]

It amazes me the lack of respect Wilder receives on this board. The guy just won a war with the boogeyman of the division; surviving a hellacious onslaught and coming back to win with a spectacular KO against the guy nobody wanted to fight. He showed heart, poise and an unrelenting will to win. Parker just shat the bed and ran for 12 rounds in the biggest opportunity of his young career and didn't even look like he wanted to be in the same ring as his opponent. But some people think he will outbox Wilder? Not a chance in hell. He would run even more than he did against AJ but it wouldn't help him. Sooner or later Wilder always finds a home for that right hand. And once he lands it and sees the other guy in trouble he doesn't let them off the hook. Wilder by vicious KO rounds 6-8. If Parker miraculously manages to make it through 12, he doesn't have the kind of power to keep Wilder honest so it still would have been all Wilder on the offensive with Parker on the backfoot, Parker would lose a wide decision. Wilder beats Parker much more convincingly than Joshua did.

[oogiebe]

It amazes me the lack of respect Wilder receives on this board. The guy just won a war with the boogeyman of the division; surviving a hellacious onslaught and coming back to win with a spectacular KO against the guy nobody wanted to fight. He showed heart, poise and an unrelenting will to win. Parker just shat the bed and ran for 12 rounds in the biggest opportunity of his young career and didn't even look like he wanted to be in the same ring as his opponent. But some people think he will outbox Wilder? Not a chance in hell. He would run even more than he did against AJ but it wouldn't help him. Sooner or later Wilder always finds a home for that right hand. And once he lands it and sees the other guy in trouble he doesn't let them off the hook. Wilder by vicious KO rounds 6-8. If Parker miraculously manages to make it through 12, he doesn't have the kind of power to keep Wilder honest so it still would have been all Wilder on the offensive with Parker on the backfoot, Parker would lose a wide decision. Wilder beats Parker much more convincingly than Joshua did.

Lots and Lots and Lots of fanboys on both sides. More for AJ though. You get killed from the any honest positive or negative comment on either. It's really hysterical. Like kids with their favorite superheros...

[jamamb]

It amazes me the lack of respect Wilder receives on this board. The guy just won a war with the boogeyman of the division; surviving a hellacious onslaught and coming back to win with a spectacular KO against the guy nobody wanted to fight. He showed heart, poise and an unrelenting will to win. Parker just shat the bed and ran for 12 rounds in the biggest opportunity of his young career and didn't even look like he wanted to be in the same ring as his opponent. But some people think he will outbox Wilder? Not a chance in hell. He would run even more than he did against AJ but it wouldn't help him. Sooner or later Wilder always finds a home for that right hand. And once he lands it and sees the other guy in trouble he doesn't let them off the hook. Wilder by vicious KO rounds 6-8. If Parker miraculously manages to make it through 12, he doesn't have the kind of power to keep Wilder honest so it still would have been all Wilder on the offensive with Parker on the backfoot, Parker would lose a wide decision. Wilder beats Parker much more convincingly than Joshua did.

i agree on the lack of respect, but hes not as good a finisher as you make it seem

a number of fights hes had guys in trouble but not finished them till several rounds later or at all. for example he dropped molina early but didnt stop him till the 10th. it only took aj 3. he dropped ortiz but then didnt finish him then and almost got stopped himself. it took him 5 more rounds after dropping ortiz to finish. in the first stiverne fight he had stiverne hurt a number of times, starting from the first or second, yet he didnt win by stoppage.

though i agree on wilder beating parker faster then aj. i think importantly wilder will be more active with power shots then aj was.

[DMWordsmith]

It amazes me the lack of respect Wilder receives on this board. The guy just won a war with the boogeyman of the division; surviving a hellacious onslaught and coming back to win with a spectacular KO against the guy nobody wanted to fight. He showed heart, poise and an unrelenting will to win. Parker just shat the bed and ran for 12 rounds in the biggest opportunity of his young career and didn't even look like he wanted to be in the same ring as his opponent. But some people think he will outbox Wilder? Not a chance in hell. He would run even more than he did against AJ but it wouldn't help him. Sooner or later Wilder always finds a home for that right hand. And once he lands it and sees the other guy in trouble he doesn't let them off the hook. Wilder by vicious KO rounds 6-8. If Parker miraculously manages to make it through 12, he doesn't have the kind of power to keep Wilder honest so it still would have been all Wilder on the offensive with Parker on the backfoot, Parker would lose a wide decision. Wilder beats Parker much more convincingly than Joshua did.

i agree on the lack of respect, but hes not as good a finisher as you make it seem

a number of fights hes had guys in trouble but not finished them till several rounds later or at all. for example he dropped molina early but didnt stop him till the 10th. it only took aj 3. he dropped ortiz but then didnt finish him then and almost got stopped himself. it took him 5 more rounds after dropping ortiz to finish. in the first stiverne fight he had stiverne hurt a number of times, starting from the first or second, yet he didnt win by stoppage.

though i agree on wilder beating parker faster then aj. i think importantly wilder will be more active with power shots then aj was.

I guess I can kind of see where you're coming from, but I just don't see how you can say somebody who has 39 KO's in 40 fights isn't a fantastic finisher? Could he better technically? Yes. But when he hurts somebody he's all over them like flies on shit and when you have power like that, that's all you need. That's how you get a 98% KO rate. To me, that's a great finisher. He sees an opening and goes in guns blazing. He's not waiting around for guys to recover.

[jamamb]

finisher i take more as how effectively/quickly you get the guy out of there when hes hurt. wilder has huge power so he scores knockouts eventually, but a lot of the time the guys survive being hurt and last several more rounds, some even coming back to hurt him. not that hes not a good finisher, but to me the post read as basically' he hurts them and that's it, there done then within moments, not let off the hook'

also worth pointing out aj hasnt gone the distance any more times then wilder has, so that doesnt really seperate them as finishers

[Mexi-Box]

Even with a not-fair ref, Wilder gets outboxed. Parker has a great chin, and he'd easily outbox Wilder.

[jamamb]

parker at best would win a few rounds and last the distance

[Mexi-Box]

parker at best would win a few rounds and last the distance

Wilder is going to outbox him like he did Szpilka, Molina, and Washington? Please, all three sub-average fighters got to him at one point.

[lazboy]

Even with a not-fair ref, Wilder gets outboxed. Parker has a great chin, and he'd easily outbox Wilder.

I think the same. He’d be able to hit wilder far more than he could AJ imo. Ajs defence is very solid.

[jamamb]

parker at best would win a few rounds and last the distance

Wilder is going to outbox him like he did Szpilka, Molina, and Washington? Please, all three sub-average fighters got to him at one point.

lol nice sneak of molina in there, he had like one moment in that fight.

joe shouldve actually lost to short fat andy ruiz and arguably hughie. do they beat wilder too lol

[Mexi-Box]

parker at best would win a few rounds and last the distance

Wilder is going to outbox him like he did Szpilka, Molina, and Washington? Please, all three sub-average fighters got to him at one point.

lol nice sneak of molina in there, he had like one moment in that fight.

joe shouldve actually lost to short fat andy ruiz and arguably hughie. do they beat wilder too lol

Actually, I think Hughie easily beats Wilder. Ruiz comes down to styles, but I think Hughie easily outboxes Wilder. Gerald Washington was outboxing Wilder. Where do you get that Wilder is good? He sucks. He's lucky to have gotten past fat, old Ortiz.

[jamamb]

wilder has historical level power and plenty of great natural gifts like length, speed, and stamina. he doesnt need crooked home decisions to win by md over guys like fat andy ruiz---the same ruiz who struggled with utterly corpse like sergey liakhovich whod already been given convulsions after a minute vs wilder. and wilders not going the distance and losing some rounds to raz cojanu either lol.

if parker actually comes to win and not survive, hes getting caught and kod. if he not hell just go into survival mode and be content to lose a wide decision, as he already has been. although id expect wilder to let the power go more freely then aj, so even then parker might still get kod.

[Mexi-Box]

wilder has historical level power and plenty of great natural gifts like length, speed, and stamina. he doesnt need crooked home decisions to win by md over guys like fat andy ruiz---the same ruiz who struggled with utterly corpse like sergey liakhovich whod already been given convulsions after a minute vs wilder. and wilders not going the distance and losing some rounds to raz cojanu either lol.

if parker actually comes to win and not survive, hes getting caught and kod. if he not hell just go into survival mode and be content to lose a wide decision, as he already has been. although id expect wilder to let the power go more freely then aj, so even then parker might still get kod.

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.

Yawn, everything you said has already made you look dumb. I can't believe you are repeating it. Parker made AJ gunshy, stop trying to rewrite history. Wilder isn't as well schooled and gets outboxed.

[jamamb]

parker lost wide to aj, stop trying to make it seem like it was nip and tuck, he knew his limiations and fought with survival in mind and usually threw from way too far out. you wont find wilder barely winning mds over guys like andy ruiz and even losing rounds to raz cojanu lol

wilder beats parker

[asdfjkl]

Wilder never fought anyone under the age for 38 that wasn't been KOed by someone else as himself already has he? Parker has never been KOed.