Ronnie Clark not on 9th of June Card

JamieM
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Ronnie Clark not on 9th of June Card

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Just a thread as seen alot of people are excited for the rematch so wanted to clear up that Clark v Barrett will not be on the undercard. Since there has been talks Ronnie has made it clear he was unable to fight on this date and informed his manager of this before a rematch was discussed. A date of June 2nd was put to Ronnie which he has been training for without an agreement and has since fallen threw. due to another commitment his trainer can't do that day. Understandably allegedly have a date for Tyson fury but he can't be part of this card. Really disappointing and hopefully the rematch can happen on another card.
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Shame, hope it happens sooner rather than later.
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JamieM wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 13:11 A date of June 2nd was put to Ronnie which he has been training for without an agreement and has since fallen threw. due to another commitment his trainer can't do that day.
It was only yesterday you said that the rematch was on the 2 June in Manchester?

Today his trainer had another commitment?
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His manager told us the fight was on the 2nd f June hence why I said the rematch is on. His trainer has another show on the 9th of June which is a week later. Ronnie said from the start he could not do that date.
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Take the 9th

I don’t agree with the situation but he is in danger of missing the boat if he doesn’t.

The rematch is his best fight available - especially as you are so confident if a win.
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So rematch him without his trainer? Are you on the wind up?
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JamieM wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 14:48 So rematch him without his trainer? Are you on the wind up?
No.

I might sound like a prick here but I don't mean it that way - Ronnie is a man with few options. This fight represents his best option to earn, get a win, get exposure and raise his profile (as you have said many times, you are very confident that he will win).

What is the alternative? - posting in here about how he cant get fights?

I don't agree with the situation, but that is the top and bottom of it.

I am sure Barret wont be waiting until Ronnie's trainer is available, he will be out as planned against another opponent.

Ronnie aint getting any younger and he needs to grab this whilst he can. Barrett might get beat in his next fight (in which case the rematch wont happen) or he might move up in weight (so again, the rematch wont happen).
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bripez wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 15:31
JamieM wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 14:48 So rematch him without his trainer? Are you on the wind up?
No.

I might sound like a prick here but I don't mean it that way - Ronnie is a man with few options. This fight represents his best option to earn, get a win, get exposure and raise his profile (as you have said many times, you are very confident that he will win).

What is the alternative? - posting in here about how he cant get fights?

I don't agree with the situation, but that is the top and bottom of it.

I am sure Barret wont be waiting until Ronnie's trainer is available, he will be out as planned against another opponent.

Ronnie aint getting any younger and he needs to grab this whilst he can. Barrett might get beat in his next fight (in which case the rematch wont happen) or he might move up in weight (so again, the rematch wont happen).

Barrett can just forget about Ronnie and move on. He will get the right fights/exposure.
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bripez wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 15:31
JamieM wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 14:48 So rematch him without his trainer? Are you on the wind up?
No.

I might sound like a prick here but I don't mean it that way - Ronnie is a man with few options. This fight represents his best option to earn, get a win, get exposure and raise his profile (as you have said many times, you are very confident that he will win).

What is the alternative? - posting in here about how he cant get fights?

I don't agree with the situation, but that is the top and bottom of it.

I am sure Barret wont be waiting until Ronnie's trainer is available, he will be out as planned against another opponent.

Ronnie aint getting any younger and he needs to grab this whilst he can. Barrett might get beat in his next fight (in which case the rematch wont happen) or he might move up in weight (so again, the rematch wont happen).

Barrett can just forget about Ronnie and move on. He will get the right fights/exposure.

Ronnie can't really afford to be pulling out when he isn't even injured.
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Are you a fighter? He needs a trainer in his corner. This isn't a game of football, needs someone he trusts in to give him key information, pick up on things and help him secure a win.

Trust me Ronnie is more than content where he's at now and if they wanna play that card then we will have to just see it threw. He's not gonna be bullied and manipulated into anything. And we will stick by him whatever he chooses. He's the champion. There's no rematch clause in contract, if it was June 2nd like advised then it was happening. See part of the contract is that whatever is agreed has to be suitable for Ronnie and in his best interest and time scale on how many fights he needs to have so that still has to be honoured. Problem is people say stuff is wrong but just get on with it. Takes a real man to stand up and say no and I amnt gonna accept it. People need to start doing there jobs
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Hasn't pulled out any fight. No fight was agreed. Ronnie said 5 weeks ago he can't fight the 9th so it was never on
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bripez wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 15:31
JamieM wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 14:48 So rematch him without his trainer? Are you on the wind up?
No.

I might sound like a prick here but I don't mean it that way - Ronnie is a man with few options. This fight represents his best option to earn, get a win, get exposure and raise his profile (as you have said many times, you are very confident that he will win).

What is the alternative? - posting in here about how he cant get fights?

I don't agree with the situation, but that is the top and bottom of it.

I am sure Barret wont be waiting until Ronnie's trainer is available, he will be out as planned against another opponent.

Ronnie aint getting any younger and he needs to grab this whilst he can. Barrett might get beat in his next fight (in which case the rematch wont happen) or he might move up in weight (so again, the rematch wont happen).
Why is the rematch either fighters best option??That makes no sense.. Ronnie would be better fighting Frenois or Boschiero that fight Zelfa?? He could fight the winner of Ward v Tennyson far better fights out there for Ronnie.. As for Zelfa a fight with anyone other than Ronnie is good for him. It’s the worst fight he could take he loses he goes nowhere.. All risk to no reward... Zelfa would be better in with Cardle or Robbie Barrett next or even Andy Townend up at his proper weight against 3 fighters he would look good against..

As the promoter of Ronnie Clark, allegedly has to act in the best interest of his contracted fighter and contractually that fight can not happen as Ronnie’s trainer is working on another show the same night. He can not be in 2 places at once.. Why not try and get Zelfa v Ronnie on the Cyclone show that night?? If not I am sure Zelfa will fight on the Fury undercard is a great opportunity for him and a decision needs to be made how the will pursue with Ronnie’s next defences
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Cant see any other shows announced in the UK for 9th June. Which other show are you talking about ?
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There is a show on the 9th that will come. End of day Ronnie decides what he does. Ronnie believed he was fighting on the 2nd of June until 2pm today. Mark Dunlop was told 5 weeks ago ronnies trainer had a prior commitment on he 9th. So Warren would have known that so he won't reveal that fight. You will have found out tomorrow but have found out tonight. Simple
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Two months away ! Oh well his loss.
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His loss haha? He won the first fight convincing. Definitely isn't his loss. See the thing is see when money isn't someone's motivation then things arnt then easy. He gave Warren a date he can fight and a date he couldn't fight, Warren then arranges for date he can't fight ha. What you want him to do? There's gonna be a show on tv in Scotland if it's about the fight and redemption then easy to make. Won't though cause the English don't have the minerals. We hold the cards here. Don't need to fight zelfa barrett. Zelfa Barrett needs to fight Ronnie. Remember that
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Ducking SMH
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Yeah he's ducking haha. Why don't we tie his arm behind his back? So what we all wanting then.
1. Fight on there shows
2. In his home town
3. Without his trainer

Idiots ha.

When is Ronnie getting his rematch we Martin j ward and Craig Evans? Yeah that's right he was told to whistle.
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A chance to fight on the biggest comeback fight card in years and you won't accept it.

No other card in the UK is going to be bigger than this that night, other than Joshua fighting. Surely the trainer realises this as well?
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JamieM wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 17:22 His loss haha? He won the first fight convincing. Definitely isn't his loss. See the thing is see when money isn't someone's motivation then things arnt then easy. He gave Warren a date he can fight and a date he couldn't fight, Warren then arranges for date he can't fight ha. What you want him to do? There's gonna be a show on tv in Scotland if it's about the fight and redemption then easy to make. Won't though cause the English don't have the minerals. We hold the cards here. Don't need to fight zelfa barrett. Zelfa Barrett needs to fight Ronnie. Remember that
Now you are talking silly and unfortunately you don't hold any cards.

Nobody on this planet would agree that Ronnie tells Frank when he can and cannot fight.

As far as I can see he can fight Barrett on the 9th - as you are all so convinced that he will win convincingly then why not?

As I see it if he doesn't take it there will be no rematch, Barrett will be moved onwards and upwards and Ronnie will be left to stagnate.

Alternatively he could earn some money, get a win and improve his profile.
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No your wrong.

What bit don't you get? He has no trainer for the fight.....

What do you suggest fight with no trainer? Boxing is a dangerous sport.. people get hurt yet you guys get off saying just fight.

Career stagnate? No like Ronnie has to abide by a contract so do allegedly who must get him fights within a time frame. Not saying Ronnie will dictate to Warren what I am saying is Warren won't dictate to him. Simple.

Ronnie hasn't said no he isn't fighting him. He's said he isn't fighting him on the 9th. 30th in Belfast? Do it then. If Lyndon Arthur was fighting on the 9th in London and pat had commited to that do you believe zelfa would be fighting Ronnie on the 9th in Manchester? If you do then your an idiot . Simple
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Is Ronnie not training with Lochend these days?Isint there another cornerman who could assist,

Thing is, your saying Ronnie won't be dictated to which is your perogative, but be prepared for a long wait for fights an know you will twist this ,but I've seen good fighters lose a lot of time between fights because of promotors actions.
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There is no other show on the 9th of June as far as am aware the cyclone show mentioned earlier is now later in month I hear so Ronnie can box
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Guys see the people commenting here have never had a fight in there puff. If he says he wants his corner man in his corner then that's that. If zelfa had beat Ronnie by a point would he have got a rematch? Did Ronnie get a rematch with ward or Evans?

Ronnie will find out if his trainer can be there and if so then good it happens. I also said 30th June I'm Belfast is a date. Many of fighter have not been able to make a certain date .

Alba- do you think Ronnie cares about being on the sideline for 18 months. If you do your mistaken. There is no rematch clause and in that clause any fight put to Ronnie has to be in his best interests.
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I get it now he should just say how high do you want me to jump??? I would rather he walked away from boxing than get treated like a piece of shit that they have treaded in... Maybe Warren will have watched the Bowen fight tonight and seen Zelfa would take him apart!! Where would Ronnie stand then??

I love how people come on here and tell him what he should do!! They show Ronnie the respect he deserves and he will fight whoever they want they keep disrespecting him he won’t fight. As he says he’s real none of these fake people in boxing who have different flavours on there tongue depending on whose arse they are licking this month.. Any fight Ronnie has needs to be right for him not for anyone else he deserves that.. Every boxer stepping through the ropes deserve that
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