Grimm wrote:
That's what your supposed to do when an opponent is hurt.
Now what would be suprising is if he just stood there and jabbed instead of trying to take him out.
Yes but fighters vary as to how good finishers they are as you should know... I think Holmes was very good when he got someone hurt... better than many other fighters... whats your point anyway??...
My point is that Kick asner is going on about how Holmes took Cooney out with combination punches, and I am saying that does not make him a good combination puncher just because he can finish people with combo's.
Didn't really mean to belabour the point so excuse my redudency, I just used my most vivid recollection. Probably to make an effective case I would have to review a dvd of Holmes fights as I had said before. Then I could offer a bit more objectity and sight actual combinations thrown that were noteworthy. My initial post was off the cuff from memory as I had previously stated and may be suspect to inacuracy as I offered it stricktly as anecdotel evidence more or less to be part of the topic. I promise no more Cooney examples as you correctly pointed out that in itself is not enough to base an argument on. I do not take any of your counter points as a slight against Holmes. You may have the last word on this suject if you wish.
DoubleM wrote:Good (great) combination puncher = Roberto Duran. The lightweight Duran didn't just throw in combination when he had a man hurt, but all throughout the fight. His fighting style was based on avoiding a punch, then firing back with three or four. His assaults varied from body to head, involved every type of punch, and could be initiated or thrown as a counter move.
Yeah, but very few heavyweights can throw combinations like that... fighters with Holmes style are usually punch pickers rather than combination punchers... Ali threw more combinations... but Holmes jab was so good that he could beat you with that punch alone...
DoubleM wrote:Good (great) combination puncher = Roberto Duran. The lightweight Duran didn't just throw in combination when he had a man hurt, but all throughout the fight. His fighting style was based on avoiding a punch, then firing back with three or four. His assaults varied from body to head, involved every type of punch, and could be initiated or thrown as a counter move.
Yeah, but very few heavyweights can throw combinations like that... fighters with Holmes style are usually punch pickers rather than combination punchers... Ali threw more combinations... but Holmes jab was so good that he could beat you with that punch alone...
How about Joe Louis? Mike Tyson? And Ali, as you said. All of similar size and weight to Holmes, all much better combination punchers. I'm not bothered if Holmes could beat you with just his jab or not, the point is; he wasn't a good combination puncher. Pretty average in my opinion.
Larry did have great technique in the jab and cross. He also had a mean uppercut. He didn't have much of a left hook and he neglected the body. His straight punching was superb though.
My vote for best punching technique overall goes to Louis. He could throw every punch straight from the text book.
