Deontay Wilder vs. Joseph Parker

[armageto]

Wilder never fought anyone under the age for 38 that wasn't been KOed by someone else as himself already has he? Parker has never been KOed.

Kelvin Price is one. Also Gerald Washington. 38 is the age limit now, since Ortiz was 38? He was stil an undefeated, never stopped HW.

Wilder stops Parker. The people trying to juice up Parker as some type of top flight HW need to stop.

[armageto]

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.

I'm a huge Klitschko fan, but I think Wilder hits harder. Wlad has also gone rounds longer with opponents he should have stopped earlier. Fight styles and levels of aggression do play a role.

[Phil Titan]

Wilder by 4th Round Kayo.

[Mexi-Box]

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.

I'm a huge Klitschko fan, but I think Wilder hits harder. Wlad has also gone rounds longer with opponents he should have stopped earlier. Fight styles and levels of aggression do play a role.

Absolutely not. Klitschko is possibly the hardest hitter the HW division has ever seen. The guy knocked down Povetkin with a flick of his wrist.

It's also about styles because Klitschko is safety-first sometimes. Wilder actually looks to KO people, and the fact that he couldn't stop a guy like Molina as fast as AJ did is telling. Plus, look at what happened to Duhaupus when Povetkin got a hold of him.

AJ and Wilder don't hit near as hard as Klitschko.

[armageto]

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.

I'm a huge Klitschko fan, but I think Wilder hits harder. Wlad has also gone rounds longer with opponents he should have stopped earlier. Fight styles and levels of aggression do play a role.

Absolutely not. Klitschko is possibly the hardest hitter the HW division has ever seen. The guy knocked down Povetkin with a flick of his wrist.

It's also about styles because Klitschko is safety-first sometimes. Wilder actually looks to KO people, and the fact that he couldn't stop a guy like Molina as fast as AJ did is telling. Plus, look at what happened to Duhaupus when Povetkin got a hold of him.

AJ and Wilder don't hit near as hard as Klitschko.

We agree to disagree then. I concur AJ doesn't, but not Wilder. There isn't a massive power difference, I just think Wilder has more one punch power. Wlad has more technique and can set up his punches and KO's better, which is his biggest advantage over a more crude and wild swinging (At times) Wilder.

I will disagree with Wlad being the biggest puncher ever in the division as well. I guess that is for a different debate though....

[asdfjkl]

Wilder never fought anyone under the age for 38 that wasn't been KOed by someone else as himself already has he? Parker has never been KOed.

Kelvin Price is one. Also Gerald Washington. 38 is the age limit now, since Ortiz was 38? He was stil an undefeated, never stopped HW.
Wilder stops Parker. The people trying to juice up Parker as some type of top flight HW need to stop.

Kelvin Price, KOed by 40 yo Mansour...
Washington, KOed by Miller...
Ortiz will probably get KOed by any of AJ's leftovers as soon as they fight.

[Badhusker]

wilder has historical level power and plenty of great natural gifts like length, speed, and stamina. he doesnt need crooked home decisions to win by md over guys like fat andy ruiz---the same ruiz who struggled with utterly corpse like sergey liakhovich whod already been given convulsions after a minute vs wilder. and wilders not going the distance and losing some rounds to raz cojanu either lol.

if parker actually comes to win and not survive, hes getting caught and kod. if he not hell just go into survival mode and be content to lose a wide decision, as he already has been. although id expect wilder to let the power go more freely then aj, so even then parker might still get kod.

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.

Yawn, everything you said has already made you look dumb. I can't believe you are repeating it. Parker made AJ gunshy, stop trying to rewrite history. Wilder isn't as well schooled and gets outboxed.

Calling other people dumb after saying that Hughie easily beats Wilder? (Hughie turned down the chance to fight Wilder) Then you say Parker made AJ gun shy?

[Ezzard]

Wilder is often outboxed and/or behind on the cards when he lands the leveller. He's done it enough times for me to realise it's a part of his game plan. And he's brilliant at it. But sooner or later someone will get through the 12 rounds.

[Pukka Cheese]

Wilder via absolute robbery.

[asdfjkl]

wilder has historical level power and plenty of great natural gifts like length, speed, and stamina. he doesnt need crooked home decisions to win by md over guys like fat andy ruiz---the same ruiz who struggled with utterly corpse like sergey liakhovich whod already been given convulsions after a minute vs wilder. and wilders not going the distance and losing some rounds to raz cojanu either lol.
if parker actually comes to win and not survive, hes getting caught and kod. if he not hell just go into survival mode and be content to lose a wide decision, as he already has been. although id expect wilder to let the power go more freely then aj, so even then parker might still get kod.

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.
Yawn, everything you said has already made you look dumb. I can't believe you are repeating it. Parker made AJ gunshy, stop trying to rewrite history. Wilder isn't as well schooled and gets outboxed.

Calling other people dumb after saying that Hughie easily beats Wilder? (Hughie turned down the chance to fight Wilder) Then you say Parker made AJ gun shy?

Wow, you're dumb, in reality Wilder didn't dare to offer 20 yo Hughie 8 weeks notice. Wilder knew that Tyson Fury was going to fight Klitschko and because of that expected Hughie to turn him down, but then Hughie accepted and said he would be ready in 8 weeks. Then Wilder realised he had a problem because he knew there was a fair chance he would lose. After that Wilder said 8 weeks took too long and eventually he fought Duhaupas, a part time boxer who lost against nearly all the guys he fought known by wikipedia at the time. Wilder fought him 7,5 weeks later instead of 8. So yea, Wilder ducked Hughie Fury.

[Bard of Boxrec]

This is an interesting fight.

Parker really impressed me vs Joshua and I think he might even have a better chance of beating Wilder than Joshua does.

I see Parker outboxing him and, based on the Joshua performance, being tough enough to withstand any fire he does get hit with.

[armageto]

Wilder never fought anyone under the age for 38 that wasn't been KOed by someone else as himself already has he? Parker has never been KOed.

Kelvin Price is one. Also Gerald Washington. 38 is the age limit now, since Ortiz was 38? He was stil an undefeated, never stopped HW.
Wilder stops Parker. The people trying to juice up Parker as some type of top flight HW need to stop.

Kelvin Price, KOed by 40 yo Mansour...
Washington, KOed by Miller...
Ortiz will probably get KOed by any of AJ's leftovers as soon as they fight.

None of those guys were stopped until facing Wilder, neither had any of them lost. Just about every fighter takes a loss in their career, most get stopped at some point. You're so hung up on ages, but a 41 year old Wlad dropped Joshua and I had him up on the cards at the time of the stoppage. Name one person that lost to AJ that would stop Ortiz in a fight tomorrow? This will be good....

Parker isn't a boxing God. He has no outstanding attributes as a fighter. We get it, you don't like Wilder.

[asdfjkl]

Kelvin Price is one. Also Gerald Washington. 38 is the age limit now, since Ortiz was 38? He was stil an undefeated, never stopped HW.
Wilder stops Parker. The people trying to juice up Parker as some type of top flight HW need to stop.

Kelvin Price, KOed by 40 yo Mansour...
Washington, KOed by Miller...
Ortiz will probably get KOed by any of AJ's leftovers as soon as they fight.

None of those guys were stopped until facing Wilder, neither had any of them lost. Just about every fighter takes a loss in their career, most get stopped at some point. You're so hung up on ages, but a 41 year old Wlad dropped Joshua and I had him up on the cards at the time of the stoppage. Name one person that lost to AJ that would stop Ortiz in a fight tomorrow? This will be good....
Parker isn't a boxing God. He has no outstanding attributes as a fighter. We get it, you don't like Wilder.

AJ stopped so many guys for the first time, that probably makes Gerald Washington on the level of Gary Cornish ish, Emanuele Leo, Kevin Johnson, name them. Except for the thing that Washingtong lost every single match ever after in loads less time by KO (and he was still standing without problems against Wilder when the fight was stopped).
I can name over 50 guys that have never been stopped that have absolutely no chance against AJ.
I'm not hanged up by ages, and I was the first one to admit I was impressed by his last victory against Ortiz, but we have to see things in perspective, we are talking about an old boxer with a heart condition who was not allowed to use the medicines he needed to stay healthy around his Wilder fight and Wilder still desperately needed help from the referee.

Takam, Whyte, name them will probably easely win against Ortiz, there's a reason Wilder avoids such guys, I was already surprised he dared to show up against the old men with the heart conditions, but I'll give him credits for it, he's far better as Stiverne for example. Wlad would beat Wilder even at the age of 50 and you know it, and so would his brother.

[Mexi-Box]

wilder has historical level power and plenty of great natural gifts like length, speed, and stamina. he doesnt need crooked home decisions to win by md over guys like fat andy ruiz---the same ruiz who struggled with utterly corpse like sergey liakhovich whod already been given convulsions after a minute vs wilder. and wilders not going the distance and losing some rounds to raz cojanu either lol.

if parker actually comes to win and not survive, hes getting caught and kod. if he not hell just go into survival mode and be content to lose a wide decision, as he already has been. although id expect wilder to let the power go more freely then aj, so even then parker might still get kod.

Klitschko hits harder. AJ and Klitschko wouldn't have taken as long to KO Molina or Duhaupus.

Yawn, everything you said has already made you look dumb. I can't believe you are repeating it. Parker made AJ gunshy, stop trying to rewrite history. Wilder isn't as well schooled and gets outboxed.

Calling other people dumb after saying that Hughie easily beats Wilder? (Hughie turned down the chance to fight Wilder) Then you say Parker made AJ gun shy?

You're obviously brain dead.

[gilgamesh]

50/50 matchup to me. Parker winning a decision seems equally as possible as Wilder winning by KO.

[armageto]

Kelvin Price, KOed by 40 yo Mansour...
Washington, KOed by Miller...
Ortiz will probably get KOed by any of AJ's leftovers as soon as they fight.

None of those guys were stopped until facing Wilder, neither had any of them lost. Just about every fighter takes a loss in their career, most get stopped at some point. You're so hung up on ages, but a 41 year old Wlad dropped Joshua and I had him up on the cards at the time of the stoppage. Name one person that lost to AJ that would stop Ortiz in a fight tomorrow? This will be good....
Parker isn't a boxing God. He has no outstanding attributes as a fighter. We get it, you don't like Wilder.

AJ stopped so many guys for the first time, that probably makes Gerald Washington on the level of Gary Cornish ish, Emanuele Leo, Kevin Johnson, name them. Except for the thing that Washingtong lost every single match ever after in loads less time by KO (and he was still standing without problems against Wilder when the fight was stopped).
I can name over 50 guys that have never been stopped that have absolutely no chance against AJ.
I'm not hanged up by ages, and I was the first one to admit I was impressed by his last victory against Ortiz, but we have to see things in perspective, we are talking about an old boxer with a heart condition who was not allowed to use the medicines he needed to stay healthy around his Wilder fight and Wilder still desperately needed help from the referee.

Takam, Whyte, name them will probably easely win against Ortiz, there's a reason Wilder avoids such guys, I was already surprised he dared to show up against the old men with the heart conditions, but I'll give him credits for it, he's far better as Stiverne for example. Wlad would beat Wilder even at the age of 50 and you know it, and so would his brother.

I'll stop my conversation here because you are just terribly one sided. Before I do, quick points. Washington walked across the ring after being stopped by Wilder and stumbled into the ropes. The ref went over to put his arm around him to make sure he was ok. Hardly "Standing with no problems". Washington is better than Cornish/Leo. Johnson gives zero effort to win whenever challenged today. Washington lost one fight after Wilder, in 3 more rounds, in a fight he wasn't in shape for, for whatever reason. That isn't "loads less time". Everything you stated was incorrect.

What Ortiz heart condition and not being allowed meds? I've never heard of anything of the sort. Please provide an article or something. Wilder didn't "desperately" need help from the ref. I've went over N.Y.'s extra rules to look after fighters. That 11 seconds did nothing, at all.

What do fighters having never been stopped having no chance against AJ have to do with anything?

Takam gets starched by Wilder if the fought tomorrow. The only good fighter he ever beat was an old Thompson. He'd lose, then you say he was old. I don't think Whyte wins either.

I'm a huge Wlad fan, but he's done. He can't pull the trigger anymore, which was evident in the Jennings fight and there after. So now I expect him to be even better at 50? Stop man, just stop....

Again, there's really no point in discussing it further. You don't like Wilder and you have crazy opinions, which is fine. We'll just see how the next year or so plays out in the HW division.

[Rob3_142]

His anti-Wilder rhetoric has gone on forever.

He could knock out Parker in a chilling 3rd round knockout, and still either come up with an excuse, or just say the fight was fixed.