AJ vs mandatory POVETKIN next ?

[Wales]

State of Lewis going into that fight, 54 weeks out the ring, half effort preparing for Kirk Johnson who drops out so Lewis takes Vitali on 2 weeks notice.

Mentally and physically Lewis had retired before the first bell

[bigman1968]

No way Hearn would let AJ defend in Moscow. AJ is the Man in the division and if you're fighting AJ you're doing it on his terms. At least for now. Somebody is gonna have to beat him to take away that kinda edge from him. As long as he's the money man he's calling the shots.

If they can't come to terms it won't be his choice.
Purse bid could be won by Ryabinski.

But I fully expect Hearn to come up with an offer that team Povetkin will accept.
I doubt it goes to bid

If Riabinsky will be stupid enough to force purse bid - Povetkin can forget about fighting for championship!

[danconnollyeire]

This is a disgusting / gruesome mismatch in favor of Anthony Joshua!

How do you figure?

Just 2 years ago Povetkin was even money to beat Wilder, and hasn't lost in the meantime. How is he a mismatch now for AJ?

He's a Top 5 ranked Heavyweight in anybody's book so he'd be one of the AJ's 3 or 4 best opponents up to this point of his career any way you wanna measure it.

It's not AJ vs Wilder, but it's not a mismatch.

I'd agree. Povetkin is as good an opponent for AJ as Ortiz was for Wilder.

Becuase with every fight since he's look old, slow, more vulnerable

[danconnollyeire]

I'd agree. Povetkin is as good an opponent for AJ as Ortiz was for Wilder.

I wouldn't go that far. Ortiz is much better than today's Povetkin, IMHO. That's poppycock...YUP, I said poppycock. LOL!

People are only saying that after Ortiz' performance against Wilder. After Ortiz vs Scott, Ortiz was seen as a shot old man.

I see both as faded versions of their former selves, but both are a threat if taken lightly.

Fair and objective point

[Loki]

It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to work out how this bout really should be a total mismatch to begin with anyway. Do I really need to spell it out for you?

1) Anthony Joshua's 95% KO rate > Alexander Povetkin's 69% KO Rate.

2) Anthony Joshua's 6 foot 6 height > Povetkin's 6 foot 1 height.

3) Anthony Joshua's 240+ pound body weight > Povetkin's -230 pound body weight.

4) Anthony Joshua's 82 inch reach > Povetkin's 75 inch reach.

5) Anthony Joshua's 28 years in age > Povetkin's 38 years in age.

6) Anthony Joshua's more muscular physique > Povetkin's less muscular and chubbier / fatter / pudgier physique.

Should I go on?

What advantage does Povetkin hold over Joshua? Pretty much nothing! Except some experience maybe. But that's about it!

With all these advantages that Joshua holds over Povetkin, what would it make Joshua, if he fails to beat Povetkin as convincingly and as decisively as he should, based on those advantages?

This is literally a fight between a totally undersized midget vs a giant muscular specimen, that looks almost like a different creature altogether.

What would you say, if a 30 year old adult failed to brutally defeat a 5 year old child lopsidedly inside a boxing ring in a boxing match whilst holding all the advantages?

Are you getting the picture now?

Anyone that paints this match up as anything other than a total, disgusting, gruesome, gory and a horror mismatch is attempting to brainwash you! It's like Manny Pacquiao vs Sergey Kovaev!

Taking all your points into consideration, why didn’t Price beat Povetkin then? It’s about boxing, strategy, tactics, ring IQ and styles, not statistics.

Because:

1) David Price isn't an elite / top level super heavyweight like Anthony Joshua is.

2) David Price doesn't possess as many advantages over Povetkin as Anthony Joshua does.


If you have no advantages over your opponent or very little advantages, then you have nearly no chance of winning and such a bout should be considered a mismatch.

What!? You claimed, several times, that big heavyweights will dominate small heavyweights not taking skill set into consideration.

Although I do favour AJ to stop Povetkin, it will be competitive and Wlads defences tactics and footwork are much better than AJs.

[greg]

Hell, Parker turned out to be competitive vs Joshua who I thought was a no-hoper at the time they negotiated a deal..I would expect more from Povetkin..

[Deleted_Scenes]

How do you figure?

Just 2 years ago Povetkin was even money to beat Wilder, and hasn't lost in the meantime. How is he a mismatch now for AJ?

He's a Top 5 ranked Heavyweight in anybody's book so he'd be one of the AJ's 3 or 4 best opponents up to this point of his career any way you wanna measure it.

It's not AJ vs Wilder, but it's not a mismatch.

I'd agree. Povetkin is as good an opponent for AJ as Ortiz was for Wilder.

Becuase with every fight since he's look old, slow, more vulnerable

Ortiz vs Allen...

Ortiz vs Scott...

Then what happened when Ortiz fought Wilder?

Povetkin is faded, I'm not denying that. Ortiz was faded too, heading into the Wilder fight.

Same situation. That's all I'm saying.

[funso banjo baby]

AJ v Povetkin would be a great fight.

50/50 in my book

I place Povetkin at number 2 ...ahead of Wilder.

[Luis Fernando12]

Taking all your points into consideration, why didn’t Price beat Povetkin then? It’s about boxing, strategy, tactics, ring IQ and styles, not statistics.

Because:

1) David Price isn't an elite / top level super heavyweight like Anthony Joshua is.

2) David Price doesn't possess as many advantages over Povetkin as Anthony Joshua does.


If you have no advantages over your opponent or very little advantages, then you have nearly no chance of winning and such a bout should be considered a mismatch.

What!? You claimed, several times, that big heavyweights will dominate small heavyweights not taking skill set into consideration.

Although I do favour AJ to stop Povetkin, it will be competitive and Wlads defences tactics and footwork are much better than AJs.

I stated ELITE / TOP super heavyweights will almost always dominate and beat small heavyweights (who are really blown up cruiser / light heavyweights to begin with in the first place) like Povetkin. David Price is not an elite / top level super heavyweight like how Joshua is, or how the Klitschkos are, or how Tyson Fury is.

In the heavyweight division, size, physical strength and punching power trumps boxing skills. A super heavyweight who is extremely powerful and strong, doesn't need to be too skilled to totally demolish, even the most skilled small heavyweights who aren't that strong.

Not only do I think Joshua stops Povetkin, but I think Joshua delivers one of, if not the most brutal, disgusting, gruesome and damaging knockouts ever seen in boxing history at the elite / top level in any weight division. And I think he'd do it within 1 -3 rounds. That's how much an astronomical mismatch this is IMO! I expect Joshua to knock Povetkin out unconscious for more than 5 minutes whilst also breaking multiple limbs, teeth, bones of him and putting him in a situation where he is forced to be carried out in a stretcher whilst Povetkin suffers from permanent, life long damage. Possibly mental / brain damage after the fight and after he retires. What Joshua would do to Povetkin is something I won't wish on my worst enemy!

Joshua deserves no credit for beating Povetkin IMO! Since he is expected to not only defeat Povetkin, but to totally brutally demolish him with no difficulties whatsoever. He deserves no more credit than a a 30 year old adult does for beating a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how much of a mismatch this is. And anything short of an easy and a quick demolition job by Joshua on Povetkin would be seen as a poor performance by Joshua.

I just hope this fight never happens for the sake of health and safety of the significantly weaker and smaller boxer. Only in the heavyweight division can we as often, see such disgusting, gross and unappealing mismatches.

[Boxing Writer]

Because:

1) David Price isn't an elite / top level super heavyweight like Anthony Joshua is.

2) David Price doesn't possess as many advantages over Povetkin as Anthony Joshua does.


If you have no advantages over your opponent or very little advantages, then you have nearly no chance of winning and such a bout should be considered a mismatch.

What!? You claimed, several times, that big heavyweights will dominate small heavyweights not taking skill set into consideration.

Although I do favour AJ to stop Povetkin, it will be competitive and Wlads defences tactics and footwork are much better than AJs.

I stated ELITE / TOP super heavyweights will almost always dominate and beat small heavyweights (who are really blown up cruiser / light heavyweights to begin with in the first place) like Povetkin. David Price is not an elite / top level super heavyweight like how Joshua is, or how the Klitschkos are, or how Tyson Fury is.

In the heavyweight division, size, physical strength and punching power trumps boxing skills. A super heavyweight who is extremely powerful and strong, doesn't need to be too skilled to totally demolish, even the most skilled small heavyweights who aren't that strong.

Not only do I think Joshua stops Povetkin, but I think Joshua delivers one of, if not the most brutal, disgusting, gruesome and damaging knockouts ever seen in boxing history at the elite / top level in any weight division. And I think he'd do it within 1 -3 rounds. That's how much an astronomical mismatch this is IMO! I expect Joshua to knock Povetkin out unconscious for more than 5 minutes whilst also breaking multiple limbs, teeth, bones of him and putting him in a situation where he is forced to be carried out in a stretcher whilst Povetkin suffers from permanent, life long damage. Possibly mental / brain damage after the fight and after he retires. What Joshua would do to Povetkin is something I won't wish on my worst enemy!

Joshua deserves no credit for beating Povetkin IMO! Since he is expected to not only defeat Povetkin, but to totally brutally demolish him with no difficulties whatsoever. He deserves no more credit than a a 30 year old adult does for beating a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how much of a mismatch this is. And anything short of an easy and a quick demolition job by Joshua on Povetkin would be seen as a poor performance by Joshua.

I just hope this fight never happens for the sake of health and safety of the significantly weaker and smaller boxer. Only in the heavyweight division can we as often, see such disgusting, gross and unappealing mismatches.

But wait, Johua couldn't do it (brutal KO and permanent health damage) to Carlos Takam, who is the same size as Povetkin, or to even smaller C-level guys like Airich and Bakhtov. According to your logic, Lennox lewis should have literally killed 5'9'' Justin Fortune and 5'11'' Levi Billups, Wladimir Klitschklo should have literally killed 5'11'' Jean Marc Mormek, Joshua should have literally killed 5'11'' Denis Bakhtov. Because all these guys are not only smaller than Povetkin, but also are far less skilled comparing to Alexander. You are obviously trolling.

[jamamb]

of course hes a troll

[Rob3_142]

I stated ELITE / TOP super heavyweights will almost always dominate and beat small heavyweights (who are really blown up cruiser / light heavyweights to begin with in the first place) like Povetkin. David Price is not an elite / top level super heavyweight like how Joshua is, or how the Klitschkos are, or how Tyson Fury is.

In the heavyweight division, size, physical strength and punching power trumps boxing skills. A super heavyweight who is extremely powerful and strong, doesn't need to be too skilled to totally demolish, even the most skilled small heavyweights who aren't that strong.

Not only do I think Joshua stops Povetkin, but I think Joshua delivers one of, if not the most brutal, disgusting, gruesome and damaging knockouts ever seen in boxing history at the elite / top level in any weight division. And I think he'd do it within 1 -3 rounds. That's how much an astronomical mismatch this is IMO! I expect Joshua to knock Povetkin out unconscious for more than 5 minutes whilst also breaking multiple limbs, teeth, bones of him and putting him in a situation where he is forced to be carried out in a stretcher whilst Povetkin suffers from permanent, life long damage. Possibly mental / brain damage after the fight and after he retires. What Joshua would do to Povetkin is something I won't wish on my worst enemy!

Joshua deserves no credit for beating Povetkin IMO! Since he is expected to not only defeat Povetkin, but to totally brutally demolish him with no difficulties whatsoever. He deserves no more credit than a a 30 year old adult does for beating a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how much of a mismatch this is. And anything short of an easy and a quick demolition job by Joshua on Povetkin would be seen as a poor performance by Joshua.

I just hope this fight never happens for the sake of health and safety of the significantly weaker and smaller boxer. Only in the heavyweight division can we as often, see such disgusting, gross and unappealing mismatches.

What a strange post.

[Luis Fernando12]

I stated ELITE / TOP super heavyweights will almost always dominate and beat small heavyweights (who are really blown up cruiser / light heavyweights to begin with in the first place) like Povetkin. David Price is not an elite / top level super heavyweight like how Joshua is, or how the Klitschkos are, or how Tyson Fury is.

In the heavyweight division, size, physical strength and punching power trumps boxing skills. A super heavyweight who is extremely powerful and strong, doesn't need to be too skilled to totally demolish, even the most skilled small heavyweights who aren't that strong.

Not only do I think Joshua stops Povetkin, but I think Joshua delivers one of, if not the most brutal, disgusting, gruesome and damaging knockouts ever seen in boxing history at the elite / top level in any weight division. And I think he'd do it within 1 -3 rounds. That's how much an astronomical mismatch this is IMO! I expect Joshua to knock Povetkin out unconscious for more than 5 minutes whilst also breaking multiple limbs, teeth, bones of him and putting him in a situation where he is forced to be carried out in a stretcher whilst Povetkin suffers from permanent, life long damage. Possibly mental / brain damage after the fight and after he retires. What Joshua would do to Povetkin is something I won't wish on my worst enemy!

Joshua deserves no credit for beating Povetkin IMO! Since he is expected to not only defeat Povetkin, but to totally brutally demolish him with no difficulties whatsoever. He deserves no more credit than a a 30 year old adult does for beating a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how much of a mismatch this is. And anything short of an easy and a quick demolition job by Joshua on Povetkin would be seen as a poor performance by Joshua.

I just hope this fight never happens for the sake of health and safety of the significantly weaker and smaller boxer. Only in the heavyweight division can we as often, see such disgusting, gross and unappealing mismatches.

What a strange post.

How so?

[Luis Fernando12]

What!? You claimed, several times, that big heavyweights will dominate small heavyweights not taking skill set into consideration.

Although I do favour AJ to stop Povetkin, it will be competitive and Wlads defences tactics and footwork are much better than AJs.

I stated ELITE / TOP super heavyweights will almost always dominate and beat small heavyweights (who are really blown up cruiser / light heavyweights to begin with in the first place) like Povetkin. David Price is not an elite / top level super heavyweight like how Joshua is, or how the Klitschkos are, or how Tyson Fury is.

In the heavyweight division, size, physical strength and punching power trumps boxing skills. A super heavyweight who is extremely powerful and strong, doesn't need to be too skilled to totally demolish, even the most skilled small heavyweights who aren't that strong.

Not only do I think Joshua stops Povetkin, but I think Joshua delivers one of, if not the most brutal, disgusting, gruesome and damaging knockouts ever seen in boxing history at the elite / top level in any weight division. And I think he'd do it within 1 -3 rounds. That's how much an astronomical mismatch this is IMO! I expect Joshua to knock Povetkin out unconscious for more than 5 minutes whilst also breaking multiple limbs, teeth, bones of him and putting him in a situation where he is forced to be carried out in a stretcher whilst Povetkin suffers from permanent, life long damage. Possibly mental / brain damage after the fight and after he retires. What Joshua would do to Povetkin is something I won't wish on my worst enemy!

Joshua deserves no credit for beating Povetkin IMO! Since he is expected to not only defeat Povetkin, but to totally brutally demolish him with no difficulties whatsoever. He deserves no more credit than a a 30 year old adult does for beating a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how much of a mismatch this is. And anything short of an easy and a quick demolition job by Joshua on Povetkin would be seen as a poor performance by Joshua.

I just hope this fight never happens for the sake of health and safety of the significantly weaker and smaller boxer. Only in the heavyweight division can we as often, see such disgusting, gross and unappealing mismatches.

But wait, Johua couldn't do it (brutal KO and permanent health damage) to Carlos Takam, who is the same size as Povetkin, or to even smaller C-level guys like Airich and Bakhtov. According to your logic, Lennox lewis should have literally killed 5'9'' Justin Fortune and 5'11'' Levi Billups, Wladimir Klitschklo should have literally killed 5'11'' Jean Marc Mormek, Joshua should have literally killed 5'11'' Denis Bakhtov. Because all these guys are not only smaller than Povetkin, but also are far less skilled comparing to Alexander. You are obviously trolling.

There are many factors. Sometimes, many 'small' heavyweights come to primarily survive against powerful SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Like Takam did against Joshua. Or sometimes, the small heavyweights aren't as old and as washed up as Povetkin is currently. Whilst other times, some powerful and strong SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS sometimes carry their small heavyweight opponents and intentionally avoid trying to inflict more harm to them than required. Such as Lennox Lewis did against Levi Billups where he looked like he intentionally carried Billups and avoided going for the knockout.

Compared to Anthony Joshua. Povetkin is not only smaller, but is also significantly older and is currently a 'shot' / 'washed up' fighter. And is also significantly weaker physically, less powerful, more fragile and etc. This is why it's a total mismatch.

Povetkin, unlike Takam and other small heavyweights, doesn't fight on the back foot and fight to survive. He often comes forward aggressively. Which is why he is stylistically even more vulnerable than other small heavyweights like Carlos Takam against powerful SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Joshua.

Wladimir Klitschko nearly killed a small heavyweight named 'Phil Jackson'. Go ahead and watch the knockout which Wlad inflicts on Phil Jackson. Levi Billups was nearly killed by Vitali Klitschko. Go ahead and watch that knockout inflicted by Vitali on Billups!

Joshua shouldn't even bother wasting time fighting someone like Povetkin. Who is basically a tiny little undersized midget / insect compared to Joshua and other SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS and is irrelevant in the current heavyweight division which requires one to be a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT to be of any real relevance or significance. Povetkin has no business fighting such elite super heavyweights. And Joshua would be in a total no-win situation fighting Povetkin because he'd deserve no credit for whatever outcome. Since it's a mismatch to begin with. Beating Povetkin would warrant no credit (since he's supposed to win easily and by a wide margin) and losing would warrant significant criticism.

Instead, Anthony Joshua should focus more on fighting other real and elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Tyson Fury, Jarrell Miller, Luis Ortiz and etc.

[Bard of Boxrec]

I agree that Joshua would crush Povetkin but you need to stop with this hyperbolic nonsense about size as the be all and end all. You’re the guy who called for ‘height and reach divisions’ and out of a poll of 50 or so people the only person who agreed with you was you. This is the heavyweight division, size is a factor but it’s by no means the only one, get over it and stop trolling the board.

[Boxing Writer]

I stated ELITE / TOP super heavyweights will almost always dominate and beat small heavyweights (who are really blown up cruiser / light heavyweights to begin with in the first place) like Povetkin. David Price is not an elite / top level super heavyweight like how Joshua is, or how the Klitschkos are, or how Tyson Fury is.

In the heavyweight division, size, physical strength and punching power trumps boxing skills. A super heavyweight who is extremely powerful and strong, doesn't need to be too skilled to totally demolish, even the most skilled small heavyweights who aren't that strong.

Not only do I think Joshua stops Povetkin, but I think Joshua delivers one of, if not the most brutal, disgusting, gruesome and damaging knockouts ever seen in boxing history at the elite / top level in any weight division. And I think he'd do it within 1 -3 rounds. That's how much an astronomical mismatch this is IMO! I expect Joshua to knock Povetkin out unconscious for more than 5 minutes whilst also breaking multiple limbs, teeth, bones of him and putting him in a situation where he is forced to be carried out in a stretcher whilst Povetkin suffers from permanent, life long damage. Possibly mental / brain damage after the fight and after he retires. What Joshua would do to Povetkin is something I won't wish on my worst enemy!

Joshua deserves no credit for beating Povetkin IMO! Since he is expected to not only defeat Povetkin, but to totally brutally demolish him with no difficulties whatsoever. He deserves no more credit than a a 30 year old adult does for beating a 10 year old kid in a boxing match. That's how much of a mismatch this is. And anything short of an easy and a quick demolition job by Joshua on Povetkin would be seen as a poor performance by Joshua.

I just hope this fight never happens for the sake of health and safety of the significantly weaker and smaller boxer. Only in the heavyweight division can we as often, see such disgusting, gross and unappealing mismatches.

But wait, Johua couldn't do it (brutal KO and permanent health damage) to Carlos Takam, who is the same size as Povetkin, or to even smaller C-level guys like Airich and Bakhtov. According to your logic, Lennox lewis should have literally killed 5'9'' Justin Fortune and 5'11'' Levi Billups, Wladimir Klitschklo should have literally killed 5'11'' Jean Marc Mormek, Joshua should have literally killed 5'11'' Denis Bakhtov. Because all these guys are not only smaller than Povetkin, but also are far less skilled comparing to Alexander. You are obviously trolling.

There are many factors. Sometimes, many 'small' heavyweights come to primarily survive against powerful SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Like Takam did against Joshua. Or sometimes, the small heavyweights aren't as old and as washed up as Povetkin is currently. Whilst other times, some powerful and strong SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS sometimes carry their small heavyweight opponents and intentionally avoid trying to inflict more harm to them than required. Such as Lennox Lewis did against Levi Billups where he looked like he intentionally carried Billups and avoided going for the knockout.

Compared to Anthony Joshua. Povetkin is not only smaller, but is also significantly older and is currently a 'shot' / 'washed up' fighter. And is also significantly weaker physically, less powerful, more fragile and etc. This is why it's a total mismatch.

Povetkin, unlike Takam and other small heavyweights, doesn't fight on the back foot and fight to survive. He often comes forward aggressively. Which is why he is stylistically even more vulnerable than other small heavyweights like Carlos Takam against powerful SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Joshua.

Wladimir Klitschko nearly killed a small heavyweight named 'Phil Jackson'. Go ahead and watch the knockout which Wlad inflicts on Phil Jackson. Levi Billups was nearly killed by Vitali Klitschko. Go ahead and watch that knockout inflicted by Vitali on Billups!

Joshua shouldn't even bother wasting time fighting someone like Povetkin. Who is basically a tiny little undersized midget / insect compared to Joshua and other SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS and is irrelevant in the current heavyweight division which requires one to be a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT to be of any real relevance or significance. Povetkin has no business fighting such elite super heavyweights. And Joshua would be in a total no-win situation fighting Povetkin because he'd deserve no credit for whatever outcome. Since it's a mismatch to begin with. Beating Povetkin would warrant no credit (since he's supposed to win easily and by a wide margin) and losing would warrant significant criticism.

Instead, Anthony Joshua should focus more on fighting other real and elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Tyson Fury, Jarrell Miller, Luis Ortiz and etc.

Ok, Vitali's KO of Billups was probably the most brutal KO of his career, but he didn't "almost kill" him. Wlad vs Jackson yes, that KO was very scary, as well as his KO of Eddie Chambers. But neither Jackson nor Chambers got permanent health damages after those scary knockouts.

[Luis Fernando12]

But wait, Johua couldn't do it (brutal KO and permanent health damage) to Carlos Takam, who is the same size as Povetkin, or to even smaller C-level guys like Airich and Bakhtov. According to your logic, Lennox lewis should have literally killed 5'9'' Justin Fortune and 5'11'' Levi Billups, Wladimir Klitschklo should have literally killed 5'11'' Jean Marc Mormek, Joshua should have literally killed 5'11'' Denis Bakhtov. Because all these guys are not only smaller than Povetkin, but also are far less skilled comparing to Alexander. You are obviously trolling.

There are many factors. Sometimes, many 'small' heavyweights come to primarily survive against powerful SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Like Takam did against Joshua. Or sometimes, the small heavyweights aren't as old and as washed up as Povetkin is currently. Whilst other times, some powerful and strong SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS sometimes carry their small heavyweight opponents and intentionally avoid trying to inflict more harm to them than required. Such as Lennox Lewis did against Levi Billups where he looked like he intentionally carried Billups and avoided going for the knockout.

Compared to Anthony Joshua. Povetkin is not only smaller, but is also significantly older and is currently a 'shot' / 'washed up' fighter. And is also significantly weaker physically, less powerful, more fragile and etc. This is why it's a total mismatch.

Povetkin, unlike Takam and other small heavyweights, doesn't fight on the back foot and fight to survive. He often comes forward aggressively. Which is why he is stylistically even more vulnerable than other small heavyweights like Carlos Takam against powerful SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Joshua.

Wladimir Klitschko nearly killed a small heavyweight named 'Phil Jackson'. Go ahead and watch the knockout which Wlad inflicts on Phil Jackson. Levi Billups was nearly killed by Vitali Klitschko. Go ahead and watch that knockout inflicted by Vitali on Billups!

Joshua shouldn't even bother wasting time fighting someone like Povetkin. Who is basically a tiny little undersized midget / insect compared to Joshua and other SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS and is irrelevant in the current heavyweight division which requires one to be a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT to be of any real relevance or significance. Povetkin has no business fighting such elite super heavyweights. And Joshua would be in a total no-win situation fighting Povetkin because he'd deserve no credit for whatever outcome. Since it's a mismatch to begin with. Beating Povetkin would warrant no credit (since he's supposed to win easily and by a wide margin) and losing would warrant significant criticism.

Instead, Anthony Joshua should focus more on fighting other real and elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Tyson Fury, Jarrell Miller, Luis Ortiz and etc.

Ok, Vitali's KO of Billups was probably the most brutal KO of his career, but he didn't "almost kill" him. Wlad vs Jackson yes, that KO was very scary, as well as his KO of Eddie Chambers. But neither Jackson nor Chambers got permanent health damages after those scary knockouts.

I never claimed Joshua would 'almost kill' Povetkin though, did I? Rather, I'm claiming Joshua would inflict long term damage on Povetkin's health with the beating and then finally, the brutal KO he would deliver to Povetkin.

Also, Phil Jackson and Levi Billups have suffered from long term health damage. Most of those guys now either have alzheimers, Parkinson disease and / or other mental / physical damage.

I suspect the same will happen to Povetkin after he gets brutally beaten and KO'ed by Joshua. I suspect multiple broken limbs, teeth, broken eye parts, broken nose, broken skull and etc. Things are not going to end well for Povetkin in this fight!

[Luis Fernando12]

I agree that Joshua would crush Povetkin but you need to stop with this hyperbolic nonsense about size as the be all and end all. You’re the guy who called for ‘height and reach divisions’ and out of a poll of 50 or so people the only person who agreed with you was you. This is the heavyweight division, size is a factor but it’s by no means the only one, get over it and stop trolling the board.

I too agree that Joshua most likely paves the little midget's skull in whilst inflicting long term damage on that midget's health (as he's supposed to with such a significant overall size, muscle size and muscle quantity advantage).

However, in response to your claim. Where are all these DOMINANT heavyweights shorter than 6 foot 4 inches, since 2000 that have been dominant as Lennox Lewis, the Klitschkos and now, Anthony Joshua?

Size may not be the 'be end and ell end' in the heavyweight division. However, size also isn't JUST a factor. It's the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR! Size, physical strength and punching power trump skills at heavyweight.

Case in point: who is more skilled overall, Anthony Joshua or Carlos Takam / Alexander Povetkin? Both Povetkin and Takam are a lot more skilled overall compared to Joshua. However, why does Joshua beat both easily. Simply because of size, physical strength and punching power advantages, Which means, skills aren't as important as size is in the heavyweight division.

A fight like Takam vs Povetkin is a fight which is predicated, MOSTLY on skills. And a fight between Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko is also a fight that is predicated, MOSTLY on skills too. However, a fight between Joshua and Takam, or Joshua and Povetkin isn't predicated on skills for the most part. It's MOSTLY predicated on an insane size advantage of the much bigger, stronger and more powerful boxer in Joshua. Which makes it a totally unwatchable mismatch. Which really should be avoided by separating small heavyweights from super heavyweights by creating a new weight division.

I'm making valid and sound points which add to a discussion! But somehow it's trolling?

[Boxing Writer]

I agree that Joshua would crush Povetkin but you need to stop with this hyperbolic nonsense about size as the be all and end all. You’re the guy who called for ‘height and reach divisions’ and out of a poll of 50 or so people the only person who agreed with you was you. This is the heavyweight division, size is a factor but it’s by no means the only one, get over it and stop trolling the board.

I too agree that Joshua most likely paves the little midget's skull in whilst inflicting long term damage on that midget's health (as he's supposed to with such a significant overall size, muscle size and muscle quantity advantage).

However, in response to your claim. Where are all these DOMINANT heavyweights shorter than 6 foot 4 inches, since 2000 that have been dominant as Lennox Lewis, the Klitschkos and now, Anthony Joshua?

Size may not be the 'be end and ell end' in the heavyweight division. However, size also isn't JUST a factor. It's the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR! Size, physical strength and punching power trump skills at heavyweight.

Case in point: who is more skilled overall, Anthony Joshua or Carlos Takam / Alexander Povetkin? Both Povetkin and Takam are a lot more skilled overall compared to Joshua. However, why does Joshua beat both easily. Simply because of size, physical strength and punching power advantages, Which means, skills aren't as important as size is in the heavyweight division.

A fight like Takam vs Povetkin is a fight which is predicated, MOSTLY on skills. And a fight between Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko is also a fight that is predicated, MOSTLY on skills too. However, a fight between Joshua and Takam, or Joshua and Povetkin isn't predicated on skills for the most part. It's MOSTLY predicated on an insane size advantage of the much bigger, stronger and more powerful boxer in Joshua. Which makes it a totally unwatchable mismatch. Which really should be avoided by separating small heavyweights from super heavyweights by creating a new weight division.

I'm making valid and sound points which add to a discussion! But somehow it's trolling?

If size and strength always "trump the skills" in the HW division, why then Povetkin dominated Wach and KO'ed Price? Why John Ruiz easily beat Jameel McCline? Why Ruslan Chagaev and David Haye beat Nicolai Valuev? Why Dominic Guinn demolished Michael Grant? Why former LHW Tomasz Adamek dominated giants like Grant and McBride? Why Sultan Ibragimov dominated and stopped Lance Whitaker?

[Luis Fernando12]

I agree that Joshua would crush Povetkin but you need to stop with this hyperbolic nonsense about size as the be all and end all. You’re the guy who called for ‘height and reach divisions’ and out of a poll of 50 or so people the only person who agreed with you was you. This is the heavyweight division, size is a factor but it’s by no means the only one, get over it and stop trolling the board.

I too agree that Joshua most likely paves the little midget's skull in whilst inflicting long term damage on that midget's health (as he's supposed to with such a significant overall size, muscle size and muscle quantity advantage).

However, in response to your claim. Where are all these DOMINANT heavyweights shorter than 6 foot 4 inches, since 2000 that have been dominant as Lennox Lewis, the Klitschkos and now, Anthony Joshua?

Size may not be the 'be end and ell end' in the heavyweight division. However, size also isn't JUST a factor. It's the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR! Size, physical strength and punching power trump skills at heavyweight.

Case in point: who is more skilled overall, Anthony Joshua or Carlos Takam / Alexander Povetkin? Both Povetkin and Takam are a lot more skilled overall compared to Joshua. However, why does Joshua beat both easily. Simply because of size, physical strength and punching power advantages, Which means, skills aren't as important as size is in the heavyweight division.

A fight like Takam vs Povetkin is a fight which is predicated, MOSTLY on skills. And a fight between Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko is also a fight that is predicated, MOSTLY on skills too. However, a fight between Joshua and Takam, or Joshua and Povetkin isn't predicated on skills for the most part. It's MOSTLY predicated on an insane size advantage of the much bigger, stronger and more powerful boxer in Joshua. Which makes it a totally unwatchable mismatch. Which really should be avoided by separating small heavyweights from super heavyweights by creating a new weight division.

I'm making valid and sound points which add to a discussion! But somehow it's trolling?

If size and strength always "trump the skills" in the HW division, why then Povetkin dominated Wach and KO'ed Price? Why John Ruiz easily beat Jameel McCline? Why Ruslan Chagaev and David Haye beat Nicolai Valuev? Why Dominic Guinn demolished Michael Grant? Why former LHW Tomasz Adamek dominated giants like Grant and McBride? Why Sultan Ibragimov dominated and stopped Lance Whitaker?

I've already answered this question. It's because David Price, Mariusz Wach, Jameel McCline, Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker and McBride aren't ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. They are merely NON-ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Only at the absolute ELITE level, do the small heavyweights have practically no chance at beating the ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS are boxers like Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.

Let me ask you a question. Can Vasyl Lomachenko beat a bum that competes at 147 pounds? I predict you'd answer by saying yes. Now here's another question. Can this same Lomachenko beat an elite 147 pound boxer like Danny Garcia? I think most would indisputably agree that Lomachenko is more SKILLED than Danny Garcia. However, skills become irrelevant at that absolute highest / elite level. Size, strength and punching power becomes a more important factor.

The same is the case in the heavyweight division too. I think most would agree that Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam are much more skilled than Anthony Joshua. However, the skill advantage becomes totally irrelevant because of the size, physical strength and punching power disadvantage. Even Eddie Chambers is more skilled than Anthony Joshua. Does that mean Chambers would beat Joshua? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY!

Here's another question: Why haven't the small elite heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin and David Haye, surpass the elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like the Klitshckos, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury? I challenge you to answer this question!

[Boxing Writer]

I too agree that Joshua most likely paves the little midget's skull in whilst inflicting long term damage on that midget's health (as he's supposed to with such a significant overall size, muscle size and muscle quantity advantage).

However, in response to your claim. Where are all these DOMINANT heavyweights shorter than 6 foot 4 inches, since 2000 that have been dominant as Lennox Lewis, the Klitschkos and now, Anthony Joshua?

Size may not be the 'be end and ell end' in the heavyweight division. However, size also isn't JUST a factor. It's the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR! Size, physical strength and punching power trump skills at heavyweight.

Case in point: who is more skilled overall, Anthony Joshua or Carlos Takam / Alexander Povetkin? Both Povetkin and Takam are a lot more skilled overall compared to Joshua. However, why does Joshua beat both easily. Simply because of size, physical strength and punching power advantages, Which means, skills aren't as important as size is in the heavyweight division.

A fight like Takam vs Povetkin is a fight which is predicated, MOSTLY on skills. And a fight between Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko is also a fight that is predicated, MOSTLY on skills too. However, a fight between Joshua and Takam, or Joshua and Povetkin isn't predicated on skills for the most part. It's MOSTLY predicated on an insane size advantage of the much bigger, stronger and more powerful boxer in Joshua. Which makes it a totally unwatchable mismatch. Which really should be avoided by separating small heavyweights from super heavyweights by creating a new weight division.

I'm making valid and sound points which add to a discussion! But somehow it's trolling?

If size and strength always "trump the skills" in the HW division, why then Povetkin dominated Wach and KO'ed Price? Why John Ruiz easily beat Jameel McCline? Why Ruslan Chagaev and David Haye beat Nicolai Valuev? Why Dominic Guinn demolished Michael Grant? Why former LHW Tomasz Adamek dominated giants like Grant and McBride? Why Sultan Ibragimov dominated and stopped Lance Whitaker?

I've already answered this question. It's because David Price, Mariusz Wach, Jameel McCline, Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker and McBride aren't ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. They are merely NON-ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Only at the absolute ELITE level, do the small heavyweights have practically no chance at beating the ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS are boxers like Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.

Let me ask you a question. Can Vasyl Lomachenko beat a bum that competes at 147 pounds? I predict you'd answer by saying yes. Now here's another question. Can this same Lomachenko beat an elite 147 pound boxer like Danny Garcia? I think most would indisputably agree that Lomachenko is more SKILLED than Danny Garcia. However, skills become irrelevant at that absolute highest / elite level. Size, strength and punching power becomes a more important factor.

The same is the case in the heavyweight division too. I think most would agree that Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam are much more skilled than Anthony Joshua. However, the skill advantage becomes totally irrelevant because of the size, physical strength and punching power disadvantage. Even Eddie Chambers is more skilled than Anthony Joshua. Does that mean Chambers would beat Joshua? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY!

Here's another question: Why haven't the small elite heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin and David Haye, surpass the elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like the Klitshckos, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury? I challenge you to answer this question!

I'd definitely favour Lomachenko to beat Danny Garcia at 147 lbs.

Of course, size is the major factor, but Povetkin and Haye can/could overcome super heavyweights that aren't complete bums. Guys like Wach, Price, Valuev. My point is that super heavyweights should be skilled to dominate elite small guys. You are saying that all they need is size, strength and power. I think that skills is what differs guys like AJ, Fury, Wad, Viitali, Lennox and Bowe from the guys like Wach, Valuev, Price, Tye Fields, Julius Long, Grant, Jefferson and others.

[Luis Fernando12]

If size and strength always "trump the skills" in the HW division, why then Povetkin dominated Wach and KO'ed Price? Why John Ruiz easily beat Jameel McCline? Why Ruslan Chagaev and David Haye beat Nicolai Valuev? Why Dominic Guinn demolished Michael Grant? Why former LHW Tomasz Adamek dominated giants like Grant and McBride? Why Sultan Ibragimov dominated and stopped Lance Whitaker?

I've already answered this question. It's because David Price, Mariusz Wach, Jameel McCline, Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker and McBride aren't ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. They are merely NON-ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Only at the absolute ELITE level, do the small heavyweights have practically no chance at beating the ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS are boxers like Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.

Let me ask you a question. Can Vasyl Lomachenko beat a bum that competes at 147 pounds? I predict you'd answer by saying yes. Now here's another question. Can this same Lomachenko beat an elite 147 pound boxer like Danny Garcia? I think most would indisputably agree that Lomachenko is more SKILLED than Danny Garcia. However, skills become irrelevant at that absolute highest / elite level. Size, strength and punching power becomes a more important factor.

The same is the case in the heavyweight division too. I think most would agree that Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam are much more skilled than Anthony Joshua. However, the skill advantage becomes totally irrelevant because of the size, physical strength and punching power disadvantage. Even Eddie Chambers is more skilled than Anthony Joshua. Does that mean Chambers would beat Joshua? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY!

Here's another question: Why haven't the small elite heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin and David Haye, surpass the elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like the Klitshckos, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury? I challenge you to answer this question!

I'd definitely favour Lomachenko to beat Danny Garcia at 147 lbs.

Of course, size is the major factor, but Povetkin and Haye can/could overcome super heavyweights that aren't complete bums. Guys like Wach, Price, Valuev. My point is that super heavyweights should be skilled to dominate elite small guys. You are saying that all they need is size, strength and power. I think that skills is what differ guys like AJ, Fury, Wad, Viitali, Lennox and Bowe from the guys like Wach, Valuev, Price, Tye Fields, Julius Long, Grant, Jefferson and others.

But Wladimir Klitschko or Anthony Joshua aren't that skilled though, are they? If we compare them to small heavyweights like Carlos Takam or Eddie Chambers.

The difference between Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua, compared to the likes of Mariusz Wach and David Price is that the former simply know how to use their size, physical strength and power advantages. That doesn't mean they are MORE skilled than small heavyweights like Povetkin, Takam or Eddie Chambers.

Eddie Chambers was far more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko was when they fought each other. Chambers had the far better speed, counter punching skills, head movement, overall slickness, defensive versatility and punch variation. Yet, Wladimir Klitschko with his limited jab, right hand the occasional left hook managed to win every round against Chambers and beat him by KO in the end. Why was that? Because of size, physical strength and punching power.


Now let's fast forward to 2017 for Joshua vs Takam fight. Takam was also a lot more skilled than Joshua when they fought last year. Yet, Joshua with his much more limited but far greater physical strength and punching power managed to win every round against Takam and was winning by shutout.

The same will be the case if Joshua faces Povetkin, or any other small heavyweight shorter than 6 foot 4 inches in height and lighter than 240 pounds in functional weight. Skills are pretty much irrelevant at heavyweight. They don't matter much at heavyweight. Punching power and physical strength renders any skill advantages irrelevant at heavyweight.


Point is, a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT doesn't need to be MORE SKILLED to beat a small heavyweight. Joshua doesn't need to be more skilled to beat Povetkin, Takam or Haye. However, if two boxers are of the same size, then skill advantages matter. This is why when Joshua faces an opponent his own size (like Fury for example), this is when he would need to be more skilled to beat such an opponent. He can't win by relying on a size advantage against an opponent his own size.

This is why heavyweight division is a mess until they invent a new super heavyweight division where only boxers of the same size are allowed to fight each other. Which is when fights will be decided by skills and not size.

Who do you think is more skilled between Vasyl Lomachenko and Jarrett Hurd? Now who do you think would win an actual boxing match? Do you now get the point? The outcomes of boxing bouts aren't always decided by skills, but sometimes by size, physical strength and punching power advantages. Skills mostly matter when two boxers are of the same size.

[Boxing Writer]

I've already answered this question. It's because David Price, Mariusz Wach, Jameel McCline, Michael Grant, Lance Whitaker and McBride aren't ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. They are merely NON-ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Only at the absolute ELITE level, do the small heavyweights have practically no chance at beating the ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS are boxers like Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.

Let me ask you a question. Can Vasyl Lomachenko beat a bum that competes at 147 pounds? I predict you'd answer by saying yes. Now here's another question. Can this same Lomachenko beat an elite 147 pound boxer like Danny Garcia? I think most would indisputably agree that Lomachenko is more SKILLED than Danny Garcia. However, skills become irrelevant at that absolute highest / elite level. Size, strength and punching power becomes a more important factor.

The same is the case in the heavyweight division too. I think most would agree that Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam are much more skilled than Anthony Joshua. However, the skill advantage becomes totally irrelevant because of the size, physical strength and punching power disadvantage. Even Eddie Chambers is more skilled than Anthony Joshua. Does that mean Chambers would beat Joshua? EXTREMELY UNLIKELY!

Here's another question: Why haven't the small elite heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin and David Haye, surpass the elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like the Klitshckos, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury? I challenge you to answer this question!

I'd definitely favour Lomachenko to beat Danny Garcia at 147 lbs.

Of course, size is the major factor, but Povetkin and Haye can/could overcome super heavyweights that aren't complete bums. Guys like Wach, Price, Valuev. My point is that super heavyweights should be skilled to dominate elite small guys. You are saying that all they need is size, strength and power. I think that skills is what differ guys like AJ, Fury, Wad, Viitali, Lennox and Bowe from the guys like Wach, Valuev, Price, Tye Fields, Julius Long, Grant, Jefferson and others.

But Wladimir Klitschko or Anthony Joshua aren't that skilled though, are they? If we compare them to small heavyweights like Carlos Takam or Eddie Chambers.

The difference between Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua, compared to the likes of Mariusz Wach and David Price is that the former simply know how to use their size, physical strength and power advantages. That doesn't mean they are MORE skilled than small heavyweights like Povetkin, Takam or Eddie Chambers.

Eddie Chambers was far more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko was when they fought each other. Chambers had the far better speed, counter punching skills, head movement, overall slickness, defensive versatility and punch variation. Yet, Wladimir Klitschko with his limited jab, right hand the occasional left hook managed to win every round against Chambers and beat him by KO in the end. Why was that? Because of size, physical strength and punching power.


Now let's fast forward to 2017 for Joshua vs Takam fight. Takam was also a lot more skilled than Joshua when they fought last year. Yet, Joshua with his much more limited but far greater physical strength and punching power managed to win every round against Takam and was winning by shutout.

The same will be the case if Joshua faces Povetkin, or any other small heavyweight shorter than 6 foot 4 inches in height and lighter than 240 pounds in functional weight. Skills are pretty much irrelevant at heavyweight. They don't matter much at heavyweight. Punching power and physical strength renders any skill advantages irrelevant at heavyweight.


Point is, a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT doesn't need to be MORE SKILLED to beat a small heavyweight. Joshua doesn't need to be more skilled to beat Povetkin, Takam or Haye. However, if two boxers are of the same size, then skill advantages matter. This is why when Joshua faces an opponent his own size (like Fury for example), this is when he would need to be more skilled to beat such an opponent. He can't win by relying on a size advantage against an opponent his own size.

This is why heavyweight division is a mess until they invent a new super heavyweight division where only boxers of the same size are allowed to fight each other. Which is when fights will be decided by skills and not size.

Who do you think is more skilled between Vasyl Lomachenko and Jarrett Hurd? Now who do you think would win an actual boxing match? Do you now get the point? The outcomes of boxing bouts aren't always decided by skills, but sometimes by size, physical strength and punching power advantages. Skills mostly matter when two boxers are of the same size.

Lomachenko vs Hurd is like Povetkin vs 7'0'', 320 lbs guy with the skills of Wladimir Klitschko. You don't have to go as far as huge LMW to find somebody who could beat Lomachenko. I think Crawford and Spence would beat him, but they have very good skills, although they aren't as skilled as Lomachenko.

I have never said that super heavyweights should be more skilled than their opponents to beat elite smaller guys. But they must have some skills and good boxing IQ to do it.

[oogiebe]

No offense, but who reads these diatribes?

[Luis Fernando12]

I'd definitely favour Lomachenko to beat Danny Garcia at 147 lbs.

Of course, size is the major factor, but Povetkin and Haye can/could overcome super heavyweights that aren't complete bums. Guys like Wach, Price, Valuev. My point is that super heavyweights should be skilled to dominate elite small guys. You are saying that all they need is size, strength and power. I think that skills is what differ guys like AJ, Fury, Wad, Viitali, Lennox and Bowe from the guys like Wach, Valuev, Price, Tye Fields, Julius Long, Grant, Jefferson and others.

But Wladimir Klitschko or Anthony Joshua aren't that skilled though, are they? If we compare them to small heavyweights like Carlos Takam or Eddie Chambers.

The difference between Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua, compared to the likes of Mariusz Wach and David Price is that the former simply know how to use their size, physical strength and power advantages. That doesn't mean they are MORE skilled than small heavyweights like Povetkin, Takam or Eddie Chambers.

Eddie Chambers was far more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko was when they fought each other. Chambers had the far better speed, counter punching skills, head movement, overall slickness, defensive versatility and punch variation. Yet, Wladimir Klitschko with his limited jab, right hand the occasional left hook managed to win every round against Chambers and beat him by KO in the end. Why was that? Because of size, physical strength and punching power.


Now let's fast forward to 2017 for Joshua vs Takam fight. Takam was also a lot more skilled than Joshua when they fought last year. Yet, Joshua with his much more limited but far greater physical strength and punching power managed to win every round against Takam and was winning by shutout.

The same will be the case if Joshua faces Povetkin, or any other small heavyweight shorter than 6 foot 4 inches in height and lighter than 240 pounds in functional weight. Skills are pretty much irrelevant at heavyweight. They don't matter much at heavyweight. Punching power and physical strength renders any skill advantages irrelevant at heavyweight.


Point is, a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT doesn't need to be MORE SKILLED to beat a small heavyweight. Joshua doesn't need to be more skilled to beat Povetkin, Takam or Haye. However, if two boxers are of the same size, then skill advantages matter. This is why when Joshua faces an opponent his own size (like Fury for example), this is when he would need to be more skilled to beat such an opponent. He can't win by relying on a size advantage against an opponent his own size.

This is why heavyweight division is a mess until they invent a new super heavyweight division where only boxers of the same size are allowed to fight each other. Which is when fights will be decided by skills and not size.

Who do you think is more skilled between Vasyl Lomachenko and Jarrett Hurd? Now who do you think would win an actual boxing match? Do you now get the point? The outcomes of boxing bouts aren't always decided by skills, but sometimes by size, physical strength and punching power advantages. Skills mostly matter when two boxers are of the same size.

Lomachenko vs Hurd is like Povetkin vs 7'0'', 320 lbs guy with the skills of Wladimir Klitschko. You don't have to go as far as huge LMW to find somebody who could beat Lomachenko. I think Crawford and Spence would beat him, but they have very good skills, although they aren't as skilled as Lomachenko.

I have never said that super heavyweights should be more skilled than their opponents to beat elite smaller guys. But they must have some skills and good boxing IQ to do it.

Lomachenko vs Hurd is very similar to Povetkin at 220 - 230 pounds vs Wladimir Klitschko at 240+ pounds (Wlad doesn't need to weigh 320 pounds). Did you see how lopsided and how much of a mismatch Wlad vs Povetkin was. It's arguable that Wlad intentionally spared Povetkin from a knockout by carrying him. Lomachenko vs Hurd would be the same thing. Likewise, Povetkin vs Joshua would also be the same thing. Only this time, Joshua may not spare Povetkin the way Wlad did and he may go for a brutal knockout which could leave Povetkin in a coma and with long term physical damage, shortening the Russian's life span. Despite the skill advantages, small heavyweights like Povetkin, Takam and Eddie Chambers still lose every round and either lose by KO, or by a shutout decision to elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko.

This is precisely my point! If elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS like Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitshcko don't have to be more skilled to beat elite small heavyweights like Povetkin, Takam or Eddie Chambers. Then is there any point in them being in the same weight division? Wouldn't it be better altogether for the sport of boxing if boxing bouts were only determined by who the more skilled boxers were by forcing boxers, only of the same natural functional size to fight against each other whilst preventing huge size mismatches? Like Povetkin vs Joshua or Wlad or Takam vs Joshua?

Why should Joshua receive any credit for beating small heavyweights like Povetkin, when he can beat them without needing to be more skilled than them? Does an elephant deserve any credit for stepping on and killing an ant that is more skilled at fighting, but is so small that it is easily squashed and killed with a single step of an elephant? Or does the elephant deserve more credit for beating other elephants its own size by using greater skills to win, rather than size, power and strength advantage?

If we follow this logic. Then Anthony Joshua deserves 0 credit for beating small heavyweights like Povetkin, Takam, Haye and etc. He only deserves credit for beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS his own size like Wladimir Klitschko (even though he was past his prime) and even greater and huger credit for beating Tyson Fury and perhaps Deontay Wilder too, guys who are also around his own age. Add Dominic Brezeale to this list too!

Povetkin arguably gets squashed to pieces by Dominic Brezeale as well. Povetkin never beat a single super heavyweight who has an +80% KO record that doesn't also have a glass jaw. So in other words, Joshua deserves more credit for beating Dominic Brezeale than for beating a midget like Povetkin.