WLAD thinks WILDER is very good !

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Nothing most logical people didn't already know. That's why this fight needs to happen and soon. There is no clear favorite, it's been a very long time since I've been this excited about a potential HW bout. Probably since Lewis/Tyson (even though I don't feel Wilder or Joshua are quite on their level) and hopefully unlike that fight it happens when both guys are still in their physical prime.
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Valuable perspective...thanks for that!! :TU:
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Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan :bag: This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. :verysad:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan :bag: This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. :verysad:
so youve gone from 100m to 60m, i guess you came to your senses a bit :lol:

and 60m may well still be millions millions more then they split
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan :bag: This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. :verysad:
$60m doesn't mean $60m to the fighters. Once TV and promoters take their cut, and everyone else gets paid, it probably means about $30-35m to the fighters.

That works out as roughly 36-42% to Wilder, which is pretty good for a first offer.

Of course it's not going to be accepted. First offers never are. That's why you go a bit low.

The fight will happen though. The mandatory might come first, but it will happen.
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I believe that AJ wants this fight bad because he just wants to stop hearing people ask him about it. AJ's a fighter's fighter to me and I think he wants to take on the best and that flies in the face of smart business. There in lies the delicate dance between Fighter/Promoter. Hearn obviously sees something that he doesn't like in Wilder. He'd much rather put Whyte in there to take him out...as he'll be ok with Whyte's stock going down if he can't get it done. But there's something about Wilder that scared Hearn too much to make this happen.

I don't blame him. I have Wilder winning this fight. Wilder's heart is freakish.
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan :bag: This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. :verysad:
Some one doesn't understand how business works...
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I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38 I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
That would be a win-win for me. I can't stand either of those guys :lol:

That being said, I'd favor Wilder against any version of Haye...at least the best version of Wilder...which I'd say is the current one.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38 I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.

I don't think Wilder is very good. No question he hits extremely hard but that's it. Szpilka had him beat until he got caught. Molina had him beat but then seemed to deliberately back off. I guess he was warned about that. It took a fake ring doctor and referee to save him from Ortiz. And he chickened out of the Povetkin fight. What else? Even Charley Zelinoff said he beat him up and had to run into the locker room to avoid punishing Wilder anymore! Well, i don't know about the last one..
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punchoutsb wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 10:59
ClivePatrickLyons wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 00:46 Its why Hearn is afraid of this fight how do you defend against Wilder your game plan could be that just a plan :bag: This is the BIGGEST fight in Boxing its criminal to offer one fighter $12.5 million in a fight that will bring atleast $60 million when this fight is the fight all of Boxing wants to see that means its a Mega Fight and Mega fight's only eventuate when 2 fighter's NOT 1 are worthy of the $$$$$$$$$ it takes 2 to tango Eddie Hearn you money hungry .sswipe this fight needs to be made ASAP but I bet they fight Tyson Fury first its the easier fight in my opinion for AJ to win AND IT WILL MAKE HIM AS RICH AS FIGHTING WILDER WITH LESS RISK. :verysad:
Some one doesn't understand how business works...
They are just actors, probably payed actors of Wilder, his so called fans are breaking all records when it comes to stupidity.
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gilgamesh wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:42
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38 I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
That would be a win-win for me. I can't stand either of those guys :lol:
That being said, I'd favor Wilder against any version of Haye...at least the best version of Wilder...which I'd say is the current one.
+1
Wilder waited for many many years to become this good, while he ducked all the others in their primes.
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caldo2025 wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 07:38 I believe that AJ wants this fight bad because he just wants to stop hearing people ask him about it. AJ's a fighter's fighter to me and I think he wants to take on the best and that flies in the face of smart business. There in lies the delicate dance between Fighter/Promoter. Hearn obviously sees something that he doesn't like in Wilder. He'd much rather put Whyte in there to take him out...as he'll be ok with Whyte's stock going down if he can't get it done. But there's something about Wilder that scared Hearn too much to make this happen.

I don't blame him. I have Wilder winning this fight. Wilder's heart is freakish.
Nice post Caldo! :TU:
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Wilder is dangerous and powerful, I wouldlnt say he's "very good"
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Mexi-Box wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38 I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".

Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
:roll:

Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
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Best Coast wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 21:08
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38 I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".

Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
:roll:

Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!
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Oiky wrote: 17 Apr 2018, 01:54 Wilder is dangerous and powerful, I wouldlnt say he's "very good"
I agree because there have been times he has crowded himself when trying to finish an opponent rather taking a half step back or to the side.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote: 20 Apr 2018, 05:40
Oiky wrote: 17 Apr 2018, 01:54 Wilder is dangerous and powerful, I wouldlnt say he's "very good"
I agree because there have been times he has crowded himself when trying to finish an opponent rather taking a half step back or to the side.
Yeah he lacks ring IQ
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oogiebe wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 21:28
Best Coast wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 21:08
Mexi-Box wrote: 16 Apr 2018, 15:38 I heard he used to beat up Wilder in sparring. Stroking his own ego here, most likely. By the way, Haye has that video of him putting Wilder on queerstreet. Prime-for-prime, I think Haye would kill Wilder.
How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".

Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
:roll:

Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!
Y'all haven't seen that? I thought everybody's seen that. Haye rocked him a few times, with headgear. Not super badly.
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Of course, Zimnoch also knocked Wilder out in the amateurs. But that's not something I'd be inclined to hold against him unless we're talking about his chin.
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evgeny romanov knocked him out, zimnoch beat him 23-20
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Lackeos wrote: 23 Apr 2018, 22:28
oogiebe wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 21:28
Best Coast wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 21:08
How about you share with all of us the video of Haye supposedly "putting Wilder on Queer Street" so we can all judge for ourselves whether or not "Haye used to beat up Wilder in sparring".

Sounds like Paul Spadafora "beating Floyd" in their sparring sessions.
:roll:

Waiting for a LINK to that video!!
Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!
Y'all haven't seen that? I thought everybody's seen that. Haye rocked him a few times, with headgear. Not super badly.
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Of course, Zimnoch also knocked Wilder out in the amateurs. But that's not something I'd be inclined to hold against him unless we're talking about his chin.
I can pick 7 seconds of sparring between pretty much any 2 fighters and make it look like he dominated.
This video proves nothing
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spaddy did get the better of floyd in that sparring session and its on video. of course floyds a way better fighter with a way better career,but the issue was never a lack of evidence for that particular sparring session
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tiny_acres wrote: 23 Apr 2018, 23:41
Lackeos wrote: 23 Apr 2018, 22:28
oogiebe wrote: 19 Apr 2018, 21:28

Yeah, Mexi...I'd like to see that too!
Y'all haven't seen that? I thought everybody's seen that. Haye rocked him a few times, with headgear. Not super badly.
(1:05)

(1:25)


Of course, Zimnoch also knocked Wilder out in the amateurs. But that's not something I'd be inclined to hold against him unless we're talking about his chin.
I can pick 7 seconds of sparring between pretty much any 2 fighters and make it look like he dominated.
This video proves nothing

that video proves haye rocked him in sparring, even if it was very favourably edited. i dont place much significance in it but it shows it happened. of course wilder may have ktfo him but there not gonna show that :lol:

the tall guy in the preview shot in the left corner said wilder beat up haye, fwiw
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