Gennady Golovkin vs. Vanes Martirosyan - May 5, 2018

[Ruthless-RKO]

[JCS]

Coming off a loss... two years of inactivity and up a division... fighting for all the goods. Sounds legit.

[Loki]

Coming off a loss... two years of inactivity and up a division... fighting for all the goods. Sounds legit.

Can’t really blame GGG. But, this stinks. Vanes had such potential and generally has done nothing with periods of inactivity.

Canelo is a tool and this will be worse than the GGG v Brook fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[jamamb]

ew

[SenorPipino]

It's a fight.

Not a good one and it doesn't belong on the sacred Cinco de Mayo date, but it is what it is.

If Vanes was a legit 160 pounder, then it would be an acceptable late replacement bout.

But being undersized and inactive--not to mention usually unsuccessful at the true top level---makes this fight just a way to pass a few hours on May 5.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Only WBA and WBC belts at stake.

[SenorPipino]

Only WBA and WBC belts at stake.

The coveted IBO belt is not at risk?

And what is the IBF saying about this?

[boxing_rocks]

IBF may or may not strip Golovkin. Still TBD.

[JoeCorrao]

Nothing out there at Middleweight for GGG...MAYBE fight Saunders and then move up to Super Middle...

[ValMar]

[Loki]

Nothing out there at Middleweight for GGG...MAYBE fight Saunders and then move up to Super Middle...

I agree. KO BJ Saunders and retire. I hope the IBF doesn’t strip him.

[Enlightened-One]

Isn’t GGG needlessly putting his title unification dreams at serious risk by facing someone like Vanes Martirosyan? No good can come from this bout.

[SenorPipino]

Isn’t GGG needlessly putting his title unification dreams at serious risk by facing someone like Vanes Martirosyan? No good can come from this bout.

Are you talking about risk of defeat or risk of being stripped by the IBF?

No chance of defeat.

And it's unlikely that the IBF will do anything. Some step aside money smooths away everything.

[armageto]

It would be dumb for the IBF to strip him. It wasn't his fault Canelo F'd this fight up. After this fight he can unify with Saunders or face his IBF mando fight.

Vanes has 3 losses, but he's never been stopped. All 3 losses were to more boxer type fighters, and all 3 were competitive. He has good size for 154, and fought a couple of times near MW, so I think he will fill out his frame well for the fight. Not having fought in almost 2 years is worrisome though.

If anything, Hell, it's something to watch. It will be interesting to see if G3 has slipped, or the recent increased level of competition in Jacobs/Canelo only made it appear that way. G3 "should" stop him before double digit rounds.

[boxing_rocks]

Golovkin will get his 20th defense and tie Bernard's record. Martirosyan is no worse than Wade or some earlier defenses of GGG and many of Bernard's defenses.

[Enlightened-One]

It would be dumb for the IBF to strip him. It wasn't his fault Canelo F'd this fight up. After this fight he can unify with Saunders or face his IBF mando fight.

Vanes has 3 losses, but he's never been stopped. All 3 losses were to more boxer type fighters, and all 3 were competitive. He has good size for 154, and fought a couple of times near MW, so I think he will fill out his frame well for the fight. Not having fought in almost 2 years is worrisome though.

If anything, Hell, it's something to watch. It will be interesting to see if G3 has slipped, or the recent increased level of competition in Jacobs/Canelo only made it appear that way. G3 "should" stop him before double digit rounds.

Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin, but GGG chose to go ahead with the bout anyway.

The IBF usually abide by their own rules and it superficially seems that Gennady is participating in an unsanctioned bout, which theoretically means that his title should be declared vacant.

Apparently, Vasyl Lomachenko destroyed Vanes Martirosyan during sparring last week:

[armageto]

It would be dumb for the IBF to strip him. It wasn't his fault Canelo F'd this fight up. After this fight he can unify with Saunders or face his IBF mando fight.

Vanes has 3 losses, but he's never been stopped. All 3 losses were to more boxer type fighters, and all 3 were competitive. He has good size for 154, and fought a couple of times near MW, so I think he will fill out his frame well for the fight. Not having fought in almost 2 years is worrisome though.

If anything, Hell, it's something to watch. It will be interesting to see if G3 has slipped, or the recent increased level of competition in Jacobs/Canelo only made it appear that way. G3 "should" stop him before double digit rounds.

Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin, but GGG chose to go ahead with the bout anyway.

The IBF usually abide by their own rules and it superficially seems that Gennady is participating in an unsanctioned bout, which theoretically means that his title should be declared vacant.

Nobody said he was a top fighter or a MW. Nobody also told Canelo to fail his drug tests. Though Vanes has had a few fights over the 154 limit. It would be dumb for the IBF to strip G3, since they know the Canelo rematch is coming up in September. Nobody cares bout the sanctioning bodies rules anymore. they are constantly adjusted to suit their needs. As a fan, there should only be one belt for division anyhow.

Either way, I don't give a f&ck what the IBF does. Everybody can strip G3 of his belts. He's the #1 MW right now.

[Enlightened-One]

It would be dumb for the IBF to strip him. It wasn't his fault Canelo F'd this fight up. After this fight he can unify with Saunders or face his IBF mando fight.

Vanes has 3 losses, but he's never been stopped. All 3 losses were to more boxer type fighters, and all 3 were competitive. He has good size for 154, and fought a couple of times near MW, so I think he will fill out his frame well for the fight. Not having fought in almost 2 years is worrisome though.

If anything, Hell, it's something to watch. It will be interesting to see if G3 has slipped, or the recent increased level of competition in Jacobs/Canelo only made it appear that way. G3 "should" stop him before double digit rounds.

Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin, but GGG chose to go ahead with the bout anyway.

The IBF usually abide by their own rules and it superficially seems that Gennady is participating in an unsanctioned bout, which theoretically means that his title should be declared vacant.

Nobody said he was a top fighter or a MW. Nobody also told Canelo to fail his drug tests. Though Vanes has had a few fights over the 154 limit. It would be dumb for the IBF to strip G3, since they know the Canelo rematch is coming up in September. Nobody cares bout the sanctioning bodies rules anymore. they are constantly adjusted to suit their needs. As a fan, there should only be one belt for division anyhow.

Either way, I don't give a f&ck what the IBF does. Everybody can strip G3 of his belts. He's the #1 MW right now.

Apparently, Vasyl Lomachenko destroyed Vanes Martirosyan during sparring last week (click on the Tweet for details):


Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin.

This is a mismatch. Nobody can pretend otherwise.

[Thomastearns]

It would be dumb for the IBF to strip him. It wasn't his fault Canelo F'd this fight up. After this fight he can unify with Saunders or face his IBF mando fight.

Vanes has 3 losses, but he's never been stopped. All 3 losses were to more boxer type fighters, and all 3 were competitive. He has good size for 154, and fought a couple of times near MW, so I think he will fill out his frame well for the fight. Not having fought in almost 2 years is worrisome though.

If anything, Hell, it's something to watch. It will be interesting to see if G3 has slipped, or the recent increased level of competition in Jacobs/Canelo only made it appear that way. G3 "should" stop him before double digit rounds.

Agreed. It's ridiculous to punish the victim here, and these are special circumstances to say the least. Martirosyan has the opportunity of a lifetime. There will be some who'll argue its unfair he hasn't earned the right, and then there'll be some who'll argue he's not good enough.

At the end of the day its up to Vanes and his team to, err shall we say, dare to be great. It's got to be better than GGG v Brook - that was almost a tragedy.

[armageto]

Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin, but GGG chose to go ahead with the bout anyway.

The IBF usually abide by their own rules and it superficially seems that Gennady is participating in an unsanctioned bout, which theoretically means that his title should be declared vacant.

Nobody said he was a top fighter or a MW. Nobody also told Canelo to fail his drug tests. Though Vanes has had a few fights over the 154 limit. It would be dumb for the IBF to strip G3, since they know the Canelo rematch is coming up in September. Nobody cares bout the sanctioning bodies rules anymore. they are constantly adjusted to suit their needs. As a fan, there should only be one belt for division anyhow.

Either way, I don't give a f&ck what the IBF does. Everybody can strip G3 of his belts. He's the #1 MW right now.

Apparently, Vasyl Lomachenko destroyed Vanes Martirosyan during sparring last week (click on the Tweet for details):


Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin.

This is a mismatch. Nobody can pretend otherwise.

It's a fight that I wil enjoy myself watching on the 5th. If you don't want to watch it, simply don't. Nobody thinks Vanes has a shot to win, I just want to see how G3 looks in regards to his last two fights. A G3 with a lot of gas left in the tank should win in 4 rounds. A G3 that has slipped some should win by 8. If G3 is just about at the end of his rope, it goes late.

Vanes is unranked because he hasn't fought in a while. If he did, he'd be ranked in the top 10. Again, if you don't want to watch it, don't.

[Enlightened-One]

Nobody said he was a top fighter or a MW. Nobody also told Canelo to fail his drug tests. Though Vanes has had a few fights over the 154 limit. It would be dumb for the IBF to strip G3, since they know the Canelo rematch is coming up in September. Nobody cares bout the sanctioning bodies rules anymore. they are constantly adjusted to suit their needs. As a fan, there should only be one belt for division anyhow.

Either way, I don't give a f&ck what the IBF does. Everybody can strip G3 of his belts. He's the #1 MW right now.

Apparently, Vasyl Lomachenko destroyed Vanes Martirosyan during sparring last week (click on the Tweet for details):


Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin.

This is a mismatch. Nobody can pretend otherwise.

It's a fight that I wil enjoy myself watching on the 5th. If you don't want to watch it, simply don't. Nobody thinks Vanes has a shot to win, I just want to see how G3 looks in regards to his last two fights. A G3 with a lot of gas left in the tank should win in 4 rounds. A G3 that has slipped some should win by 8. If G3 is just about at the end of his rope, it goes late.

Vanes is unranked because he hasn't fought in a while. If he did, he'd be ranked in the top 10. Again, if you don't want to watch it, don't.

If any other fighter participated in a mismatch of epic proportions like this and you'd criticise them severely.

Please don't allow your bias to cloud your ability to objectively evaluate this particular situation.

GGG is a great fighter and he's probably a decent bloke also, but he shouldn't be sharing the ring with someone like Vanes.

If Lomachenko is capable of battering this guy, what's Golovkin going to do to him!

[apollo creed]

No Rod Salka ?

[armageto]

Apparently, Vasyl Lomachenko destroyed Vanes Martirosyan during sparring last week (click on the Tweet for details):


Vanes Martirosyan has never beaten a top fighter. He has been inactive for two years. He isn't a middleweight. He has only managed to win three fights in almost last five years (losing three others). He is also unranked.

The WBA, WBC and IBF have previously REJECTED Vanes Martirosyan as a suitable opponent for Gennady Golovkin.

This is a mismatch. Nobody can pretend otherwise.

It's a fight that I wil enjoy myself watching on the 5th. If you don't want to watch it, simply don't. Nobody thinks Vanes has a shot to win, I just want to see how G3 looks in regards to his last two fights. A G3 with a lot of gas left in the tank should win in 4 rounds. A G3 that has slipped some should win by 8. If G3 is just about at the end of his rope, it goes late.

Vanes is unranked because he hasn't fought in a while. If he did, he'd be ranked in the top 10. Again, if you don't want to watch it, don't.

If any other fighter participated in a mismatch of epic proportions like this and you'd criticise them severely.

Please don't allow your bias to cloud your ability to objectively evaluate this particular situation.

GGG is a great fighter and he's probably a decent bloke also, but he shouldn't be sharing the ring with someone like Vanes.

If Lomachenko is capable of battering this guy, what's Golovkin going to do to him!

It's not the ideal match anybody wanted to see. You have to blame Canelo for that one though. On a short notice fight, this isn't the worst to be had. It's WAY better than if G3 fought the Mexican kid. My only issue is Vanes' time off from the sport. He himself, isn't a bad fighter. He fought Charlo tough and Andrade. Granted he has no A+ wins, but he's beaten some decent names. He's lost to division leading fighters, and close as well.

Again, nobody is saying this is a great fight. For a short notice fight, it is acceptable. If Vanes was active, he's a legit ranked top 6 guy at 154. The only issue with this fight is his inactivity. Aside that, it's an ok fight for short notice.

[gilgamesh]

As a GGG fan I'm just happy he's still fighting and recording a KO. Hope he takes care of Vanes in short order, or at least in thoroughly one sided fashion.