President Trump considering pardon for Jack Johnson

[chuck9788]

[Best Coast]

Not a life & death matter obviously but I have no problem with pardoning Jack Johnson, considering his "crimes" were based on a racist system. The racists couldnt find their "Great White Hope" so they concocted some phony "crimes" to get Johnson out of the country.

If it helps ease his family's sense of embarrassment over this injustice I'm all for it. But if it doesnt happen I wont lose any sleep over it either.

[oogiebe]

Not a life & death matter obviously but I have no problem with pardoning Jack Johnson, considering his "crimes" were based on a racist system. The racists couldnt find their "Great White Hope" so they concocted some phony "crimes" to get Johnson out of the country.

If it helps ease his family's sense of embarrassment over this injustice I'm all for it. But if it doesnt happen I wont lose any sleep over it either.

[SenorPipino]

Pardon or no pardon, members of society will continue to individually judge Jack Johnson based on what they know of his case.

Not on whether his conviction 100 years ago was suddenly pushed aside by presidential decree.

OJ Simpson was exonerated of double murder. Most feel differently.

Rubin Carter was convicted of murder and eventually freed. Plenty felt he was guilty.

So people will judge for themselves whether Jack Johnson was railroaded. Or whether the punishment (one year imprisonment) was actually just.

[Badhusker]

Its all just politically motivated bullshit.

[gilgamesh]

Pardon or no pardon, members of society will continue to individually judge Jack Johnson based on what they know of his case.

Not on whether his conviction 100 years ago was suddenly pushed aside by presidential decree.

OJ Simpson was exonerated of double murder. Most feel differently.

Rubin Carter was convicted of murder and eventually freed. Plenty felt he was guilty.

So people will judge for themselves whether Jack Johnson was railroaded. Or whether the punishment (one year imprisonment) was actually just.

Indeed

And in the court of Public Opinion Jack Johnson is already seen as an innocent man that was railroaded. So his family certainly shouldn't suffer any shame because pretty much nobody except for maybe some backward ass KKK douche is gonna think him guilty of anything anyway.

What he was charged with is ridiculous on the very face of it. Anybody can see that.

[oogiebe]

I'm' waiting for Kalan to chime in now...that's how dumb this has gotten. Just say great and be done with it.

[chuck9788]

So why didn't the other politicians resolve this matter?!? This is why it's called "The Swamp", and it needs draining.

"John McCain, Harry Reid ask Obama to pardon boxer Jack Johnson" -July 2016
https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/politics ... index.html

[gilgamesh]

I'm' waiting for Kalan to chime in now...that's how dumb this has gotten. Just say great and be done with it.

I don't see anything that anybody has said that's dumb in the thread. Just stating the obvious in my case.

[oogiebe]

I'm' waiting for Kalan to chime in now...that's how dumb this has gotten. Just say great and be done with it.

I don't see anything that anybody has said that's dumb in the thread. Just stating the obvious in my case.

It is dumb to me. Someone posted about a pardon for JJ. So? You come in and make a beef. Why bother? (please don't answer). It was a nice thing and that's it.

[gilgamesh]

I'm' waiting for Kalan to chime in now...that's how dumb this has gotten. Just say great and be done with it.

I don't see anything that anybody has said that's dumb in the thread. Just stating the obvious in my case.

It is dumb to me. Someone posted about a pardon for JJ. So? You come in and make a beef. Why bother? (please don't answer). It was a nice thing and that's it.

I didn't make a beef though that's just it. I was just stating my opinion on the matter. I wasn't picking a fight with anybody. You're reading it that way I guess, but that wasn't my intent.

[oogiebe]

I don't see anything that anybody has said that's dumb in the thread. Just stating the obvious in my case.

It is dumb to me. Someone posted about a pardon for JJ. So? You come in and make a beef. Why bother? (please don't answer). It was a nice thing and that's it.

I didn't make a beef though that's just it. I was just stating my opinion on the matter. I wasn't picking a fight with anybody. You're reading it that way I guess, but that wasn't my intent.

No fighting at all. No worries here. I'm just pissed because my stream (fight) keeps freezing.

[chuck9788]

I'm' waiting for Kalan to chime in now...

[oogiebe]

I'm' waiting for Kalan to chime in now...

LMFAO!!! OK!!! That was worth going through the entire thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jamamb]

this what john mccan has been callng for for years? or was that somethng else?

oh ya now can see it is

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Not a life & death matter obviously but I have no problem with pardoning Jack Johnson, considering his "crimes" were based on a racist system. The racists couldnt find their "Great White Hope" so they concocted some phony "crimes" to get Johnson out of the country.

If it helps ease his family's sense of embarrassment over this injustice I'm all for it. But if it doesnt happen I wont lose any sleep over it either.

- Well, Besty, let us look to our last Dear Presidente Obama.

He pardoned some 212 and commuted sentences of 1715, and most of them were supposed to be drug offenses primarily of marijuana with overly harsh sentencing, and.....BADABOOM: most were black and most were young.

So anyone here complain about Obama not pardoning O'Henry for a white collar crime he was only following bank procedure? This is when he was just a kid as William Sydney Porter before his OHenry era. Of course not, and with a sentence 3x as long.

The Mann Act was passed in 1910 and JJohnson wasn't even close to be the first charged, and most charged seem to have been white. The notable list is long like Charlie Chaplin, Frank Lloyd White, Luis Firpo, ect and so on. Obama for all his flaws and those of his AG Holder are very careful lawyers. Obama has two girls and gets a lot of support from women, many with young girls in YOUR era where human smuggling and sex trafficking of women is an epidemic. 

I'm not going to bother finding his original statement of admitting to transmitting money across state lines to his former prostitute GF for the purpose of establishing a cat house with a % of profits going into his pockets. He also bragged about his monthly income at twice the princely yearly sum of MLB players made at the time.

The irony lost on this board of ninnies: A roided up Stallone suggesting to the roided up Rump a pardon for a congenital sex offender who would be prosecuted under the same Mann Act today that has never left the books would be right in his own serial sex offenses sweet spot alleged to him.

But pretty soon Howard Sackler's Great White Hope fantasy will be taught to an unfortunate lot of school children as actual history. All while you nanogram IQs whine about boxing's nanogram traces to such an extent that you're killing boxing as you fiddle yourselves away with the world burning up in war, congrats!

[Best Coast]

Not a life & death matter obviously but I have no problem with pardoning Jack Johnson, considering his "crimes" were based on a racist system. The racists couldnt find their "Great White Hope" so they concocted some phony "crimes" to get Johnson out of the country.

If it helps ease his family's sense of embarrassment over this injustice I'm all for it. But if it doesnt happen I wont lose any sleep over it either.

- Well, Besty, let us look to our last Dear Presidente Obama.

He pardoned some 212 and commuted sentences of 1715, and most of them were supposed to be drug offenses primarily of marijuana with overly harsh sentencing, and.....BADABOOM: most were black and most were young.

So anyone here complain about Obama not pardoning O'Henry for a white collar crime he was only following bank procedure? This is when he was just a kid as William Sydney Porter before his OHenry era. Of course not, and with a sentence 3x as long.

The Mann Act was passed in 1910 and JJohnson wasn't even close to be the first charged, and most charged seem to have been white. The notable list is long like Charlie Chaplin, Frank Lloyd White, Luis Firpo, ect and so on. Obama for all his flaws and those of his AG Holder are very careful lawyers. Obama has two girls and gets a lot of support from women, many with young girls in YOUR era where human smuggling and sex trafficking of women is an epidemic. 

I'm not going to bother finding his original statement of admitting to transmitting money across state lines to his former prostitute GF for the purpose of establishing a cat house with a % of profits going into his pockets. He also bragged about his monthly income at twice the princely yearly sum of MLB players made at the time.

The irony lost on this board of ninnies: A roided up Stallone suggesting to the roided up Rump a pardon for a congenital sex offender who would be prosecuted under the same Mann Act today that has never left the books would be right in his own serial sex offenses sweet spot alleged to him.

But pretty soon Howard Sackler's Great White Hope fantasy will be taught to an unfortunate lot of school children as actual history. All while you nanogram IQs whine about boxing's nanogram traces to such an extent that you're killing boxing as you fiddle yourselves away with the world burning up in war, congrats!

Your overly-dramatized, emo-driven rant accomplishes little other than prove you are a world-class drama queen.

Your twisted thought process is so convoluted that you must be smoking the same hippy lettuce you rant about in your first paragraph.

I stand by what I said in my original post. A pardon would be nice for the family of the long-deceased Johnson, but it's not the end of the world if it doesnt happen. You make it sound like a matter of life & death.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Not a life & death matter obviously but I have no problem with pardoning Jack Johnson, considering his "crimes" were based on a racist system. The racists couldnt find their "Great White Hope" so they concocted some phony "crimes" to get Johnson out of the country.

- Besty my sweet dear, it is you who played the now overly hysterical race card, not I.

Dr King dreamed of a world where people would be judged on the content of their character, not their skin color. If the prevailing scientific opinion is moving in the direction of there being no scientific basis for different races of people, are your charges of racism lacking substance?

I looked at the history of the Mann act and the evidence against Johnson and am satisfied that Obama came to the same conclusion legally.

The decision now rests in the hand of the two 'roid brothers and we already know the content of their character. I do love when a juicy moment of irony plays out, so just lay back and enjoy it!

[Best Coast]

Not a life & death matter obviously but I have no problem with pardoning Jack Johnson, considering his "crimes" were based on a racist system. The racists couldnt find their "Great White Hope" so they concocted some phony "crimes" to get Johnson out of the country.

- Besty my sweet dear

I'm NOT your "sweet dear" so spare the homosexual greetings.

This is a boxing forum gay boy, so let's keep it that way. No need to bring your sexual proclivity into boxing discussions.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

-Oh my not so Miss American Pie, my profoundest of 'pologies.

Reading your hysteria maybe a bit like Popeye back in the day unknowingly listening to Boy Sopranos soar to the heights of heaven over the radio, all while dreaming of Olive Oyl singing to him.

We had no idea

[Cap]

Jack Johnson should refuse to be pardoned by the Great Orange Turnip, worst president in US history. Trump expects to shake Johnson's hand when he grants him a pardon. What a nobhead.

[SenorPipino]

Jack Johnson should refuse to be pardoned by the Great Orange Turnip, worst president in US history. Trump expects to shake Johnson's hand when he grants him a pardon. What a nobhead.

I see the left has turned their mantra from Reagan being the worst president in US history, to George W. being the worst president in US history, to now Trump being the worst president in US history.

I get the feeling that you boys simply don't care for Republicans.

[Best Coast]

Jack Johnson should refuse to be pardoned by the Great Orange Turnip, worst president in US history. Trump expects to shake Johnson's hand when he grants him a pardon. What a nobhead.

I see the left has turned their mantra from Reagan being the worst president in US history, to George W. being the worst president in US history, to now Trump being the worst president in US history.

I get the feeling that you boys simply don't care for Republicans.

Current Scene has been getting VERY political lately. I always thought that is what the "Off Topic" forum is for.