MMA

[TheGingerBomber]

I think Waterson beat Casey, but Casey beat herself. She has an advantage that she didn't seem able to use a single much as I expected.
Adesanya was poor against Vettori but still got the win and that's quite impressive, he looks to lack power.
Thought Condit looked okay for getting smashed up a few times in a row, would like to see him face Matt Brown, as for Oliviera, I'd like to see him face Adesanya, that's a pick em for some.
Poirier butchered Gaethje and Gaethje butchered Dustin's leg, he was really struggling with that. I'm glad Gaethje admitted he's only got "about 5 fights left", because anymore of that and he'll be really bad. That's two fights where if you take away his awesome leg kick, he's been slaughtered, albeit against two top lightweights.

[punchoutsb]

I think Waterson beat Casey, but Casey beat herself. She has an advantage that she didn't seem able to use a single much as I expected.
Adesanya was poor against Vettori but still got the win and that's quite impressive, he looks to lack power.
Thought Condit looked okay for getting smashed up a few times in a row, would like to see him face Matt Brown, as for Oliviera, I'd like to see him face Adesanya, that's a pick em for some.
Poirier butchered Gaethje and Gaethje butchered Dustin's leg, he was really struggling with that. I'm glad Gaethje admitted he's only got "about 5 fights left", because anymore of that and he'll be really bad. That's two fights where if you take away his awesome leg kick, he's been slaughtered, albeit against two top lightweights.

Vettori controlled the pace and the action throughout that fight and his gameplan was absolutely horrible. Still, I thought Vettori took the first (I don't award points for missing flashy moves) and obviously took the third. I don't really see how Israel won that fight, and I don't see how he doesn't get eaten alive by Cowboy if that fight were to happen. He's a hype job that's going to get derailed hard, just like O'Malley.

[Tinnie]

Strange fight by Cub Swanson. Very complacent..... always on the backfoot attempting to counter.... take nothing away from Frankie but if Cub was following his coach's game plan, i think he he should question his preparation for this fight...

[Impractical Poster]

Strange fight by Cub Swanson. Very complacent..... always on the backfoot attempting to counter.... take nothing away from Frankie but if Cub was following his coach's game plan, i think he he should question his preparation for this fight...

He was too weary of the takedown. I understand they didn't want a repeat of the last fight, but I'm with you on questioning this specific game plan.

[Impractical Poster]

Lee looked pretty stellar in there. I'd like to see him and Nurmy go at it. Can't help but wonder if he had been staph free for the Ferguson fight if the outcome would have been different.

[jujigatame]

Lee was scary in there, although to be fair he didn't make weight.

I'd personally like to see Khabib/Lee and Alvarez/Ferguson, with the winners eventually facing each other. But not sure what the likelihood of that is.

[jujigatame]

Edgar is a problem for the FW division. He can't beat Aldo or Holloway but despite his advancing age, 99% of the division still can't beat him. I dunno who they can match him with next. I'm sure Stephens would like a rematch (which would have made more sense than a Swanson rematch) but I dunno if Edgar will be interested.

[p4p1]

Edgar is a problem for the FW division. He can't beat Aldo or Holloway but despite his advancing age, 99% of the division still can't beat him. I dunno who they can match him with next. I'm sure Stephens would like a rematch (which would have made more sense than a Swanson rematch) but I dunno if Edgar will be interested.

He's pretty incredible, though I wouldn't count him out of a Halloway fight. He could definitely cause Halloway some problems IMO. If not for Aldo I'm sure that Edgar would've been a dominant long time champ in the FW division.

[p4p1]

+1 for Khabib vs Lee. Khabib has tossed around nearly everyone he has fought and it would be interesting to see if he could do it to Lee.

Rumour is that negations have started for McGregor v Khabib though.

[jujigatame]

Edgar is a problem for the FW division. He can't beat Aldo or Holloway but despite his advancing age, 99% of the division still can't beat him. I dunno who they can match him with next. I'm sure Stephens would like a rematch (which would have made more sense than a Swanson rematch) but I dunno if Edgar will be interested.

He's pretty incredible, though I wouldn't count him out of a Halloway fight. He could definitely cause Halloway some problems IMO. If not for Aldo I'm sure that Edgar would've been a dominant long time champ in the FW division.

If the UFC FW division had existed in 2008 he'd almost certainly have been the champ of it until Aldo came of age a few years later. The fact that he became LW champ (and held it for a couple of years, and only lost it on a very close decision) despite cutting almost no weight whatsoever at 155 is incredible.

[punchoutsb]

That Georgian fellow getting robbed blind ruined the card for me and I'd never even heard of him before last night.

Lee is very good at what he does, I find him so boring to watch but he is a handful for anyone. Poirier, Tony, Conor, and Lee are all deserving of a shot. I'll be fine with any of them getting it, but then make the others fight each other!

[Impractical Poster]

That Georgian fellow getting robbed blind ruined the card for me and I'd never even heard of him before last night.

Lee is very good at what he does, I find him so boring to watch but he is a handful for anyone. Poirier, Tony, Conor, and Lee are all deserving of a shot. I'll be fine with any of them getting it, but then make the others fight each other!

Out of those you mention, I feel Lee would pose the most problems for Khabib. I think Lee's striking is better than Khabib's, and his ground game is better than the others on the list.. Next Ferguson, then Conor. Poirier would get destroyed at all levels.

[punchoutsb]

That Georgian fellow getting robbed blind ruined the card for me and I'd never even heard of him before last night.

Lee is very good at what he does, I find him so boring to watch but he is a handful for anyone. Poirier, Tony, Conor, and Lee are all deserving of a shot. I'll be fine with any of them getting it, but then make the others fight each other!

Out of those you mention, I feel Lee would pose the most problems for Khabib. I think Lee's striking is better than Khabib's, and his ground game is better than the others on the list.. Next Ferguson, then Conor. Poirier would get destroyed at all levels.

I'm kind of to the point where anyone beating Khabib will be an upset, so none of them really stand out as having a better chance than the others to me. I can see Khabib getting caught standing or getting caught in a submission; I cannot see him losing a decision. It'll take speed and knockout power to stop him, or the ability to outmuscle him on the ground to get a submission. I'd actually say getting him out on the feet is probably the best shot anyone has, and I'd rate Lee as the least effective standing. He sets up his strikes through his opponents fear of his wrestling; that's won't work on Khabib.

[samwbr]

I'm a fairly irregular viewer, I enjoyed that Edgar v Swanson fight.

[jujigatame]

That Georgian fellow getting robbed blind ruined the card for me and I'd never even heard of him before last night.

Lee is very good at what he does, I find him so boring to watch but he is a handful for anyone. Poirier, Tony, Conor, and Lee are all deserving of a shot. I'll be fine with any of them getting it, but then make the others fight each other!

I dunno, it looked to me like he was unconscious when the round ended. It was a weird call but if he really was out, then it was the right one.

[punchoutsb]

That Georgian fellow getting robbed blind ruined the card for me and I'd never even heard of him before last night.

Lee is very good at what he does, I find him so boring to watch but he is a handful for anyone. Poirier, Tony, Conor, and Lee are all deserving of a shot. I'll be fine with any of them getting it, but then make the others fight each other!

I dunno, it looked to me like he was unconscious when the round ended. It was a weird call but if he really was out, then it was the right one.

He never stopped moving his legs during the round, so there is no evidence he was ever unconscious during the fight. As soon as the horn sounds the round is over and being the final round there is no need to show proof of being able to continue. In this case Simon got off and complained he was out, the Georgian said something in response and tried to sit up and the officials made him lay back down. I would imagine he went in and out a few times, but as soon as that horns sounds it's done and he spoke and tried to sit up as soon as he heard Simon say he was out. This result should be overturned, it was absolutely abysmal.

[jujigatame]

When I was watching live, when Simon released the choke and got off him at the end of the round, it looked like his eyes were rolled back in his head and it took him a few seconds to be able to move.

I dunno, it was a close call.

[punchoutsb]

The horn sounds at :59 of this video.

1:01 Simon is saying he's out, but the Georgian is still moving. I know this *could* be an involuntary twitch, but good luck proving that. Before 1:01 ticks over to 1:02, the Georgian is saying he's fine. The guy is exhausted after surviving a 60 second choke, he doesn't have to jump to his feet at soon as the bell rings. Horribly mishandled and the incompetence of those involved cost him his clear victory, and allowed Simon to basically win by saying he won. This fight ruined the show for me, I hate seeing guys get screwed over by incompetence.

[JCS]

Fedor vs. Frank Mir coming up on Saturday...

I really want to get excited for this one.. two things I think of first -- Fedor's done nothing but disappoint for years and Mir still isn't 40?

In my mind, I just imagine Frank Mir wearing a brace on every joint... with Fedor's gut being bigger than ever.

[jamamb]

hmmm from that to me though hes obvously very weary there....i wouldnt say at the end hes out of it to the extent where he should lose. its bascally a second where he doesnt move after the horn but then he obviously says something and goes to sit up before getting pushed down.

why let it go till the horn but then after all that and the sub being released then say he loses? the ref thought he was fine to continue during the match but then 'stops' it after? strange to me.

[jujigatame]

Watching the video I actually think the fight could have been stopped at the 0:55 mark (of the fight, not the video). I think he spiked his head into the ground on that last takedown attempt and was unconscious. Look at how easily Simon rolls him over, he's completely motionless for a solid 5 seconds there.

[punchoutsb]

Watching the video I actually think the fight could have been stopped at the 0:55 mark (of the fight, not the video). I think he spiked his head into the ground on that last takedown attempt and was unconscious. Look at how easily Simon rolls him over, he's completely motionless for a solid 5 seconds there.

My initial thought was that he knocked himself out during the take down. I still believe that, but ultimately he came to and was conscious again so I think the point is moot.

hmmm from that to me though hes obvously very weary there....i wouldnt say at the end hes out of it to the extent where he should lose. its bascally a second where he doesnt move after the horn but then he obviously says something and goes to sit up before getting pushed down.

why let it go till the horn but then after all that and the sub being released then say he loses? the ref thought he was fine to continue during the match but then 'stops' it after? strange to me.

More than strange, it's downright incompetent. At the very best they let a fighter be strangled for 60 seconds and then stopped it after the fight ended. The Georgian was clearly exhausted and not fully there immediately as the choke was released, but was more than awake enough to immediately say he was OK. They need to overturn this fight because it was number one BS.

[jamamb]

lol ya its funny....let the guy endure a submsson attempt on him for a minute and battle through it. then wait till the horn goes and the fghts over to say after all that that he cant continue and is the loser. i mean its hardly as though he were clearly out cold laying there for minutes. the second where he doesnt move could well be exhauston and even relief.

[Tinnie]

Meant to post this earlier in the week. At the end of round 1 (around the 3:30 mark) Tenshin Nasukawa lands an insane looking kick that i have never seen before. Seen it doing the rounds being called a Rolling Thunder kick, which i disagree with, its far less wild and far more technical than a rolling thunder. Pretty audacious move for a kid to be pulling off.

[gilgamesh]

Meant to post this earlier in the week. At the end of round 1 (around the 3:30 mark) Tenshin Nasukawa lands an insane looking kick that i have never seen before. Seen it doing the rounds being called a Rolling Thunder kick, which i disagree with, its far less wild and far more technical than a rolling thunder. Pretty audacious move for a kid to be pulling off.

Yeah the timing on that kick is absolutely beautiful.